05:30:09 <priyam> #startmeeting i18n
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05:30:19 <priyam> #meetingname i18n
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05:30:29 <priyam> #topic agenda and roll call
05:30:47 <petersen> hi
05:31:18 <paragan> hi
05:31:49 <priyam> #chair petersen priyam paragan
05:31:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: paragan petersen priyam
05:36:09 <paragan> hm
05:37:26 <paragan> only 3 of us today looks like
05:37:33 <paragan> lets wait few more minute
05:38:17 <priyam> Sure paragan
05:38:41 <petersen> Yeah may skip the meeting perhaps
05:39:44 <petersen> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/34/final/buglist
05:40:34 <priyam> yes seems like we have to skip today's meeting petersen
05:40:55 <petersen> Sure makes sense
05:42:29 <priyam> Should i end the meeting then if we have nothing urgent to discuss here
05:42:41 <tagoh> hi
05:48:06 <petersen> priyam: sure, up to you
05:50:57 <priyam> #chair
05:50:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: paragan petersen priyam
05:51:03 <priyam> #chair
05:51:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: paragan petersen priyam
05:51:19 <priyam> #chair paragan petersen priyam tagoh
05:51:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: paragan petersen priyam tagoh
05:52:06 <priyam> Let's start with today's agenda
05:52:31 <priyam> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:52:50 <priyam> #info 2021-04-06 Final Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC)
05:53:01 <priyam> #info 2021-04-20 Final Release Public Availability (GA)
05:53:10 <priyam> #info 2021-04-20 Preferred Final Target date
05:53:18 <pravins> hi all :)
05:53:25 <priyam> #info 2021-04-20 Current Final Target date
05:53:25 <petersen> Ah yes final freeze starts tomorrow
05:53:27 <paragan> yes so tomorrow Fedora 34 final freeze is going to start
05:53:48 <priyam> #chair pravins
05:53:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: paragan petersen pravins priyam tagoh
05:55:07 <priyam> does anyone has any Upcoming schedule announcements.anything to discuss here?
05:55:27 <paragan> just to note here, FESCo ticket is going on for discussion on delaying F34 final freeze but looks like it will happen on time
05:55:28 <paragan> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2591
05:56:06 <paragan> also there is not much yet on https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/34/final/buglist
05:56:10 <petersen> aha
05:56:19 <petersen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2021-04-05
05:57:27 <petersen> Can we move on?
05:57:34 <priyam> if nothing more to discuss here let's move on the next topic
05:57:42 <priyam> Let's move to next ticket
05:57:54 <priyam> #topic Issues
05:58:06 <priyam> #info #127: Fedora 32 bug triaging
05:58:49 <priyam> As of today total 22 bugs remaining.
05:59:05 <priyam> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/127
05:59:34 <priyam> #info #129: Docs Beats for Fedora 34
05:59:44 <priyam> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/129
06:00:15 <paragan> now that we entering into F34 Final freeze, we should look into adding any Change specific release notes
06:00:22 <paragan> maybe Change owners can work on it
06:00:39 <petersen> Right +1
06:00:56 <petersen> We certainly need for the ibus-anthy Change
06:02:21 <priyam> okay petersen
06:02:55 <priyam> Moving to next
06:03:28 <priyam> #info #132: refresh I18N/Fonts
06:03:38 <priyam> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/132
06:04:55 <petersen> Any takers here or maybe we revisit next time when more people back?
06:05:16 <tagoh> let me think about it.
06:05:24 <petersen> Thanks
06:08:00 <priyam> will move to next item then
06:08:23 <priyam> #info #131: review/update @fonts group default packages: non-language specific extra fonts etc
06:08:31 <priyam> #link https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/131
06:09:23 <petersen> After the last meeting to rolled a small wiki page by hand though it still needs more info - if any of you can help to tag default language fonts that would be helpful
06:09:45 <petersen> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/F34_Fonts
06:10:44 <petersen> Better might be to have a script to create (some of) it, though not sure how easy that is
06:11:14 <petersen> It is kind of an "inversion" of some of tagoh's tables
06:11:33 <tagoh> Is it expecting to see language in explanation field but not the purpose of fonts?
06:12:59 <petersen> can be both or either perhaps
06:13:05 <petersen> Why do we install aajohan-comfortaa-fonts ?
06:14:04 <petersen> Or maybe it should be dropped as default?
06:14:16 <tagoh> I think that comes from @design-suite
06:16:26 <petersen> Aha, I feel julietaula-montserrat-fonts could also be dropped from @fonts
06:19:20 <petersen> Not sure about pt-sans-fonts
06:20:36 <petersen> Maybe that is enough for today on this?
06:20:53 <tagoh> updating a bit
06:22:00 <priyam> petersen sure
06:22:10 <priyam> tagoh thanks
06:22:51 <priyam> If nothing more to add then will move to open floor
06:23:36 <priyam> #topic Open Floor anything to discuss here?
06:24:14 <petersen> Thank you
06:24:35 <petersen> tagoh: I hope we didn't collide
06:25:15 <petersen> I don't see pt-sans-fonts in your table either so it could be a candidate for removal too
06:25:30 <petersen> Ah another reference is probably langpacks
06:26:21 <tagoh> can't remember the need of that off hand...
06:28:44 <petersen> That is why we need this page... :-)
06:31:39 <tagoh> okay.. filled in except pt-sans-fonts
06:35:26 <petersen> tagoh++
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06:38:50 <petersen> Dunno if we need a threshold for adding language fonts - but I think biggest concern might be font size - good coverage is certainly desirable
06:39:42 <tagoh> right
06:40:03 <petersen> anyway "over and out" from me :)
06:40:38 <priyam> Thank you :) petersen
06:40:40 <petersen> Maybe checking for big languages without coverage is more meaningful
06:41:55 <tagoh> However even if it is covered, it might be not acceptable design and different composition etc like Chinese vs Japanese and so on. need to take a look carefully
06:47:25 <petersen> (one example of that might be jomolhari-fonts )
06:50:05 <petersen> Anyway I think we are over time
06:51:51 <priyam> petersen yes, as we started our meeting bit late
06:53:13 <priyam> tagoh you want to add more on this topic now or should we end the discussion for today.
06:53:43 <tagoh> priyam, looks good so far. please go ahead.
06:54:59 <priyam> if nothing to discuss more here then will end the meeting for today
06:56:42 <paragan> Sure
06:56:51 <priyam> Thanks for joining the meeting :)
06:57:07 <priyam> #endmeeting