15:01:15 <smooge> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2019-06-27)
15:01:15 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jun 27 15:01:15 2019 UTC.
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15:01:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2019-06-27)'
15:01:15 <smooge> #meetingname infrastructure
15:01:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
15:01:15 <smooge> #topic aloha
15:01:15 <smooge> #chair nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink cverna mizdebsk mkonecny abompard bowlofeggs
15:01:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: abompard bowlofeggs cverna mizdebsk mkonecny nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink
15:01:23 <mizdebsk> .hello2
15:01:24 <zodbot> mizdebsk: mizdebsk 'Mikolaj Izdebski' <mizdebsk@redhat.com>
15:02:05 <nirik> morning
15:05:00 <smooge> #topic announcements and information
15:05:01 <smooge> #info bowlofeggs is on extended leave
15:05:01 <smooge> #info cverna will be going on extended leave
15:05:01 <smooge> #info abombard will be going on extended leave
15:05:01 <smooge> #info sayan's last day is Friday. Thank you for your work.
15:05:02 <smooge> #info Flock2Fedora 2019-08-08 -> 2019-08-11
15:05:03 <smooge> #info Probably no site trip to PHX2
15:05:35 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez
15:05:36 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konečný' <michal.konecny@packetseekers.eu>
15:05:46 <dustymabe> .hello2
15:05:47 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com>
15:06:04 <relrod> .hello codeblock
15:06:05 <zodbot> relrod: codeblock 'Rick Elrod' <codeblock@elrod.me>
15:07:11 <smooge> Any other conversations?
15:07:17 <smooge> or announcements?
15:08:02 <smooge> #topic Oncall
15:08:02 <smooge> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
15:08:02 <smooge> #info pingou is on call from 2019-06-20 -> 2019-06-27
15:08:02 <smooge> #info nirik is on call from 2019-06-27 -> 2019-07-04
15:08:03 <smooge> #info smooge is on call from 2019-07-04 -> 2019-07-11
15:08:04 <smooge> #info ?????? is on call from 2019-07-11 -> 2019-07-18
15:08:04 <smooge> #info Summary of last week: (from pingou )
15:08:55 <pingou> there was not much activity from me
15:09:04 <pingou> I redirected a couple of people to tickets
15:09:39 <nirik> we got a pile of new tickets... but thats kinda expected since we are trying to track everything in tickets.
15:09:40 <smooge> thanks pingou. nirik time to take the conch
15:09:47 <pingou> :)
15:09:50 <nirik> can do... whats the inacntantion again?
15:09:55 <smooge> .take_us
15:10:03 <smooge> nope
15:10:22 <drznpy> hello
15:10:45 <smooge> .oncall_take_us
15:10:48 <zodbot> smooge: Kneel before zod!
15:11:04 <puiterwijk> nirik: oncalltakeus
15:11:06 <puiterwijk> yeah, that
15:11:11 <nirik> .oncall_take_us
15:11:11 <zodbot> nirik: Kneel before zod!
15:11:29 * nirik waves the coffee cup of oncall around
15:14:36 <smooge> ok next
15:14:45 <smooge> #topic Monitoring discussion
15:14:45 <smooge> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
15:14:45 <smooge> #info Go over existing out items and fix
15:15:08 * nirik looks at nagios
15:15:21 <smooge> lots of failed drives
15:15:25 <jcline> Vaguely on this topic, I submitted a patch for monitoring for rabbitmq, but I don't have the time or energy to take it further than that
15:15:41 <nirik> fas needs fixing since it moved to openshift
15:15:54 <nirik> greenwave I have no idea on.
15:16:24 <nirik> some disk space issues, easy to clean up...
15:16:31 <nirik> and badges backlog again.
15:16:56 <nirik> jcline: yeah, I saw, but also haven't had time to do anything there. ;(
15:17:13 <nirik> perhaps dm0 might be interested in driving that and other nagios stuff forward?
15:17:45 <jcline> Yeah, I'm not really asking anyone to do anything either, more just saying I'm not going to take that any further
15:19:03 <smooge> thanks for the work jcline
15:19:50 <smooge> #topic Tickets discussion
15:19:51 <smooge> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/report/Meetings%20ticket
15:20:45 <smooge> so I think 2 of the items are dustymabe and 1 is red_beard
15:20:49 <smooge> so I think 2 of the items are dustymabe and 1 is relrod
15:21:27 <dustymabe> +1 let me know how you'd like to proceed
15:21:28 <nirik> completely fair
15:21:40 <relrod> oh we already discussed geoip a while ago, we can drop the meeting tag from it
15:22:09 * relrod does so
15:22:30 <smooge> dustymabe, ok what did you want to bring up on the tickets?
15:22:33 <dustymabe> ok so open floor to me then?
15:23:00 <dustymabe> first ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7940
15:23:06 <dustymabe> Request for ability to publish messages for CoreOS builds via Fedora Messaging
15:23:27 <dustymabe> I'm interested in getting approval for publishing messages for *coreos* related things
15:23:40 <dustymabe> we need to send messages to sign things like ostree commits and artifacts
15:24:15 <dustymabe> we need a tls cert/key in order to do that
15:24:16 <nirik> and those things will be somewhere we can sign them?
15:24:36 <dustymabe> nirik: not exactly - there has been some discussion with puiterwijk on how we'd achieve that goal
15:24:51 <dustymabe> which i'll mention when we bring up the next ticket :)
15:24:56 <nirik> I don't see any problem with you sending coreos messages... I cna get you this by close of business tomorrow.
15:25:07 <dustymabe> nirik: thanks!
15:26:01 <nirik> this sender will be external to our infra?
15:26:08 <dustymabe> correct. in CentOS CI
15:26:23 <nirik> ok, not sure we have any others yet, but it should work. :)
15:26:35 <dustymabe> pierre suggested using their existing setup but brian said that we'd need our own cert
15:27:24 <dustymabe> any other comments/questions for this ticket?
15:27:46 <nirik> nope, and if there are, please add them to the ticket itself. :)
15:28:18 <dustymabe> next ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7884
15:28:25 <dustymabe> Project Proposal: Artifact signing for Fedora CoreOS
15:28:50 <dustymabe> i'm interested to know if infra team was able to consider this work yet (possibly discussed at the recent f2f)
15:29:41 <nirik> I don't think we discussed it there... we more discussed process.
15:29:56 <nirik> this might be a thing that would be useful to use a new process, but it's not fully ready yet.
15:30:16 <nirik> sigul 1.0 is due out real soon now...
15:30:55 <nirik> the biggest question for me is passing around the things to be signed...
15:31:03 <dustymabe> nirik: OK. the reason I ask is that we are getting closer to a preview release (which is already pretty late). The project doesn't look like it will be happening soon, so is it possible for us to tactically sign artifacts for the first release or two of FCOS?
15:31:35 <dustymabe> i.e. not via an automated process, but still asking infra team to do it
15:31:43 <dustymabe> via a ticket
15:31:45 <nirik> good question. I _think_ so, but not 100% sure... puiterwijk would know more.
15:31:57 <nirik> these things are in s3 buckets?
15:32:23 <nirik> so I guess we would download, sign, upload signature?
15:32:35 <dustymabe> nirik: we do upload them to s3, yes.
15:32:51 <puiterwijk> nirik: I'd inject "verify everything" before "sign".
15:33:03 <dustymabe> but for a tactical solution we can do whatever we need to. i.e. download them to /mnt/koji before if we need to
15:33:13 <dustymabe> puiterwijk: +1
15:33:23 <nirik> how soon is the preview release (ballpark)?
15:34:02 <dustymabe> nirik: bgilbert would be able to give you a better answer, but I'll try my best
15:34:11 <nirik> weeks? days?
15:34:24 <dustymabe> we were aiming for trying in the first week of july, but that will most likely be more like 2nd week or 3rd at this point
15:35:05 <nirik> ok. Can you indicate that timeline and mention the MVP (just manually signing things) in the ticket?
15:35:24 <dustymabe> yep. I'll mention the contingency plan
15:35:35 <dustymabe> if that is OK with infra.. I know it's not ideal. believe me
15:35:49 <nirik> I can bring this up to those who prioritize things and see what we can do
15:36:06 <dustymabe> thanks!
15:36:27 <dustymabe> that's all from me
15:36:32 <dustymabe> unless anyone has any more questions
15:36:44 <nirik> yeah, that MVP wouldn't be ideal, but it could be viable for a short time to unblock you...
15:37:31 <smooge> ok any other tickets?
15:37:31 * nirik looks forward to the day we have a nice queue of pending work and could show you where something is in it.
15:37:42 <dustymabe> thanks nirik
15:37:57 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
15:38:19 <smooge> Any open floor questions today?
15:38:58 <nirik> I wanted to mention again: we are moving to tickets for tracking everything, but this means that everyone needs to please update and close tickets.
15:39:26 <nirik> if you get blocked, please note that, or if you are starting some part of it that is good for status, note it in ticket
15:41:06 <smooge> so work flow for each person should be. Look at ticket, update ticket that they are working on it, note in ticket when they are done with what part, close ticket when done
15:41:13 <smooge> ?
15:41:29 <nirik> yeah, and ideally work a ticket until it's done, do next.
15:41:40 <nirik> because multitasking is killing us. ;) or me at least.
15:42:08 <smooge> what sorry.. I had 2 other things going on
15:42:14 <mkonecny> nirik: +1
15:42:14 <nirik> right
15:42:32 <dustymabe> haha
15:42:34 <nirik> name the tv character: "I do one thing at a time, I do it very well, then I move on"
15:42:36 <smooge> ok with that.. I am going to close out this conversation and go onto my other task
15:42:47 <smooge> not sure who?
15:43:19 <smooge> I was going to say Liam Neelson in Taken but that is a different speech
15:43:38 <nirik> Charles from MASH. (ok, I guess I show my age :)
15:43:54 <smooge> ha I would not have pictured that from him
15:44:07 <smooge> well ok I would.
15:44:17 <mkonecny> nirik: I couldn't remember where I heard this
15:44:20 <smooge> now I have Liam Neelson and Charles from MASH mixed in my head
15:44:27 <nirik> ha
15:44:50 <smooge> I have a particular set of skills. I do one thing at a time, I do it very well and then I move on.
15:44:54 <smooge> ok and with that
15:45:04 <smooge> thank you all for coming.
15:45:06 <bcotton> smooge: that's....quite a combo
15:45:09 <nirik> mkonecny: have you seen MASH the tv show? it was big in reruns in the us a while back, but seems to not be anymore.
15:45:15 <smooge> #info THERE WILL BE NO MEETING NEXT WEEK
15:45:24 <smooge> it is a US holiday
15:45:26 <mkonecny> nirik: Yes I watched is as a kid :-)
15:45:30 <smooge> #endmeeting