16:30:39 <dustymabe> #startmeeting fedora_atomic_wg
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16:30:43 <dustymabe> #topic roll call
16:30:47 <dustymabe> .hello2 dustymabe
16:30:48 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
16:30:52 <roshi> .hello roshi
16:30:53 <strigazi> .hello2
16:30:53 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <roshi@mykolab.com>
16:30:56 <zodbot> strigazi: strigazi 'Spyros Trigazis' <strigazi@gmail.com>
16:31:04 * coremodule is here!
16:31:07 <coremodule> .hello coremodule
16:31:08 <zodbot> coremodule: coremodule 'Geoffrey Marr' <gmarr@redhat.com>
16:31:32 <dustymabe> hi coremodule :)
16:31:45 <ksinny> .hello sinnykumari
16:31:46 <zodbot> ksinny: sinnykumari 'Sinny Kumari' <ksinny@gmail.com>
16:32:49 <jberkus> .hello jberkus
16:32:50 <zodbot> jberkus: jberkus 'Josh Berkus' <josh@agliodbs.com>
16:32:51 <miabbott_> .hello2
16:32:53 <zodbot> miabbott_: Sorry, but you don't exist
16:32:58 <walters> .hello walters
16:32:59 <roshi> haha
16:32:59 <zodbot> walters: walters 'Colin Walters' <walters@redhat.com>
16:32:59 <dustymabe> #chair strigazi roshi ksinny jberkus miabbott_ walters
16:32:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jberkus ksinny miabbott_ roshi strigazi walters
16:33:00 <miabbott_> .hello miabbott
16:33:02 <zodbot> miabbott_: miabbott 'Micah Abbott' <miabbott@redhat.com>
16:33:21 * miabbott waves to roshi
16:33:22 * dustymabe wonders if we are missing jbrooks today
16:33:58 <rubao> .hello rubao
16:33:59 <zodbot> rubao: rubao 'rubao' <rubao.net@hotmail.com>
16:34:10 <dustymabe> #chair rubao
16:34:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jberkus ksinny miabbott_ roshi rubao strigazi walters
16:34:17 <roshi> o/ miabbott :D
16:34:31 <dustymabe> ok will get started in a minutes
16:34:41 <puiterwijk> sorta here
16:34:49 <dustymabe> welcome puiterwijk
16:34:52 <dustymabe> #chair puiterwijk
16:34:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jberkus ksinny miabbott_ puiterwijk roshi rubao strigazi walters
16:35:05 <dustymabe> ok I'll get it started
16:35:10 <dustymabe> #topic previous meeting action itmes
16:35:15 <dustymabe> if I can spell :(
16:35:18 <jberkus> sigh.  so I'm not going to have stats from the survey during the meeting
16:35:18 <maxamillion> .hello2
16:35:19 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com>
16:35:27 <dustymabe> welcome maxamillion
16:35:32 <jberkus> encountered a docker bug, which ate my stats in progress
16:35:36 <dustymabe> #chair maxamillion
16:35:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jberkus ksinny maxamillion miabbott_ puiterwijk roshi rubao strigazi walters
16:35:42 <jberkus> there's some kind of irony there
16:35:57 <dustymabe> jberkus: is that the new "the dog ate my homework"?
16:36:06 <dustymabe> ok here are the action items from last meeting
16:36:09 <dustymabe> * jbrooks to retest asciibinder rpm
16:36:11 <dustymabe> * jberkus to propose new quorum rules based on scheduled online votes
16:36:47 <dustymabe> looks like jbrooks is not with us
16:36:54 <dustymabe> #action jbrooks to retest asciibinder rpm
16:37:01 <dustymabe> jberkus: any updates?
16:37:05 <jberkus> ok, for mine I;ve had zero mental energy to devote to it
16:37:15 <jberkus> realistically won;t be able to until after kubecon
16:37:31 <jberkus> if someone else wants to tackle it, please volunteer
16:37:59 <dustymabe> jberkus: should we drop it from action items for now?
16:38:05 <jberkus> otherwise, reschedule for mid-dec
16:38:24 <dustymabe> ok
16:38:31 <dustymabe> moving on
16:38:39 <dustymabe> #topic announcements
16:38:59 <dustymabe> #info we now have updates available for fedora atomic workstation
16:39:23 <miabbott> woo
16:39:29 <dustymabe> #info there is a candidate atomic host release for tomorrow (sent mailing list for details)
16:39:51 <dustymabe> now that we have updates for FAW we should be able to publish that fedora magazine post
16:40:32 <dustymabe> anyone with any other announcements?
16:41:06 <dustymabe> ok tickets then
16:41:30 <dustymabe> #topic help.md file for each container
16:41:38 <jbrooks> .fas jasonbrooks
16:41:41 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <jbrooks@redhat.com>
16:41:56 <dustymabe> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/354
16:42:02 <dustymabe> welcome jbrooks
16:42:10 <jbrooks> sorry for lateness
16:42:21 <roshi> o/ jbrooks
16:42:22 <dustymabe> so for this ticket ashcrow and phracek were working on a solution
16:43:03 <dustymabe> since ashcrow isn't around I'll punt to next meeting unless anyone else objects
16:43:50 <dustymabe> welcome ashcrow :)
16:44:03 <ashcrow> sorry, my fedora cal import says this starts in 15 minutes :-/
16:44:08 <dustymabe> current topic is https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/354
16:44:37 * ashcrow nods
16:44:47 <dustymabe> basically i'm willing to "let ashcrow run with it" on this one
16:45:00 <ashcrow> Chatting seems to have died down in there and I'm happy to move it forward unless there is strong opposition
16:45:10 <dustymabe> do you think you can take your proposal and make it happen?
16:45:38 <ashcrow> dustymabe: yes, there may be some changes here and there but the general proposal should be doable
16:45:43 <dustymabe> cool
16:46:08 <dustymabe> #action ashcrow will take proposal in #354 and try to get the ticket resolved
16:46:15 <dustymabe> ^^ acceptable?
16:46:19 <ashcrow> yup
16:46:36 <dustymabe> #topic Decide strategy for including container runtimes in Atomic Host
16:46:44 <dustymabe> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/360
16:46:55 <dustymabe> #info waiting on survey data from jberkus, should be coming real soon
16:47:06 <jberkus> dustymabe: per above, I was hoping to have some stats to present here, but a docker bug just ate my data and I'm starting over
16:47:16 <dustymabe> k
16:47:48 <dustymabe> i'm going to skip over the quorum tickets because you mentioned earlier you haven't had a chance to look at them
16:48:00 <dustymabe> #topic Fedora version agnostic location for container images
16:48:05 <dustymabe> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/376
16:48:19 <dustymabe> #info we agreed last time the proposal in this ticket is valid
16:48:29 <dustymabe> maxamillion has agreed to do the work. I'll remove meeting label.
16:48:38 <ashcrow> \o/
16:49:03 <dustymabe> maxamillion: any chance you'll be able to complete that before you 'transition'
16:49:17 <maxamillion> dustymabe: I've technically already transitioned
16:49:36 <dustymabe> maxamillion: ahh. /me thought it wasn't until dec
16:49:52 <dustymabe> everyone maxamillion is now talking to us from the 'afterlife'
16:49:57 <maxamillion> dustymabe: yeah, not officially but I went over early so I can "come back" in Jan to help train someone who's taking over OSBS
16:50:22 <roshi> it's called the afterlife now?
16:50:27 <dustymabe> and he can 'come back' as well. sounds jesus-like
16:50:34 <maxamillion> heh
16:50:41 <dustymabe> badjokes
16:50:54 <ashcrow> lol
16:50:58 <roshi> lazarus
16:50:59 <dustymabe> so. any idea on being able to complete this task?
16:51:20 <dustymabe> or maybe show another of us some of the ropes and how to do it ourselves?
16:51:40 <dustymabe> i have to admit this is one part I have not been involved in (intentionally because of everything else on my plate)
16:51:46 <dustymabe> but would be good to have some more people involved
16:52:15 <maxamillion> dustymabe: I'll try to get it done in the next couple days
16:52:15 <puiterwijk> Well, the management of the registry is going to transition to Bodhi. Current plan for that is before F28 GA
16:52:47 <ashcrow> dustymabe: that's a good idea. Having more folks able to do handle stuff is rarely a bad thing
16:52:49 <puiterwijk> (the initial Bodhi code is actually already done, but now needs a bunch of other things due to rebuilds)
16:53:03 <dustymabe> puiterwijk: that sounds nice
16:53:08 <dustymabe> maxamillion: thanks
16:53:26 <puiterwijk> https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/projects/2
16:53:38 <dustymabe> #action maxamillion to try to implement the (hopefully trivial) work for #376
16:54:28 <dustymabe> ok that's it for items
16:54:32 <dustymabe> #topic open floor
16:55:01 <dustymabe> jberkus: we should probably re-look at the articles we were going to post for f27 and see which ones of those are outstanding
16:55:07 <dustymabe> and clean up the tickets in the repo
16:55:11 <jberkus> dustymabe: point
16:55:17 <roshi> glad to see things still are still moving along :D
16:55:20 <dustymabe> i also need to clean up some other things
16:55:25 <jberkus> dustymabe: the only ones still outstanding were the ones with external dependancies
16:55:28 <dustymabe> roshi: :) you are missed
16:55:32 <jberkus> like AWS and FAW
16:55:41 <roshi> :D thanks
16:55:41 <dustymabe> there was one on azure too
16:55:41 <coremodule> woot! shameless self plug regarding atomic test days
16:55:45 <dustymabe> and one on cockpit
16:55:55 <jberkus> oh, right
16:55:58 <dustymabe> hiya coremodule :)
16:55:58 <roshi> once I get my feet under me I expect to be able to contribute more
16:56:28 <coremodule> we're planning on running some test days here soon
16:56:28 * ksinny wants to discuss about growpart issue on aarch64
16:56:34 <coremodule> probably not before the first of the year
16:56:49 <dustymabe> coremodule: how soon in the f28 cycle are you planning to run test days?
16:57:06 <dustymabe> usually we have done right before or right after beta
16:57:14 <coremodule> but I just want to put some feelers out as to what you guys think should get tested
16:57:41 <coremodule> dustymabe, I was thinking an initial "alpha" test, then a few more after, but I don't want to shake things up too much if there's already a set way
16:57:58 <coremodule> we can do @beta
16:58:18 <dustymabe> coremodule: ehh. i'm ok with whatever. we don't really have a set way, but I would like one around beta time. If we do more than one then I'm ok with doing more earlier as well
16:58:58 <coremodule> dustymabe, gotcha, I like the idea of more, more test days for more coverage, if you're cool with it.
16:59:09 <dustymabe> coremodule: roshi should be of some help if we need any help/ideas
16:59:14 <jberkus> when is f28 beta?
16:59:40 <dustymabe> coremodule: fine with me
16:59:49 <roshi> for testdays? sure
16:59:52 <coremodule> march 13 for beta freeze
16:59:54 * jberkus also has an open floor item
16:59:55 <dustymabe> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule
16:59:57 <roshi> I can at least proof pages and whatnot
17:00:03 <dustymabe> ksinny: want to go ahead?
17:00:08 <ksinny> sure
17:00:11 <roshi> the QA wiki is pretty clear on the steps
17:00:11 <ksinny> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/386
17:00:57 <dustymabe> ksinny: what about?
17:00:59 <ksinny> growpart is part of cloud-utils package and in Fedora we have cloud-utils-0.27
17:01:01 <coremodule> just looking for any ideas on what might be good to test in a test day
17:01:13 <dustymabe> ksinny: I think you linked to wrong issue?
17:01:23 <ksinny> dustymabe: I further digged into commits done between 0.27 and 0.28 of cloud-utils
17:01:34 <roshi> anything new
17:01:40 <roshi> is a good thing to test
17:01:52 <dustymabe> coremodule: miabbott might be able to help us come up with a list
17:01:55 <ksinny> and it seems, fix lies in big commit done in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-utils-dev/cloud-utils/trunk/revision/267#bin/growpart
17:02:14 <dustymabe> we do automated testing too, but it's always good to have users execute tests at least once or twice during a cycle
17:02:29 <ksinny> There are lot of changs done torelated to sfidsk and it seems difccult to figure out what might have fixed it
17:02:38 <miabbott> dustymabe: coremodule: happy to help out
17:02:45 <ksinny> sorry about wrong link
17:02:48 <ksinny> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/382
17:02:52 <dustymabe> ksinny: no worries
17:02:55 <coremodule> dustymabe, miabbott, that would be great
17:03:25 <ksinny> dustymabe: I just wonder what would be best way here. can't we just update to newer cloud-utils?
17:03:35 <dustymabe> ksinny: that depends on the maintainer
17:03:41 <dustymabe> here is my suggestion
17:03:44 * ksinny don't know what all packages in fedora relies on growpart
17:03:53 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury
17:03:54 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
17:03:56 <dustymabe> we try to track down maintainer and suggest we move to newer version
17:04:04 <dustymabe> that's option 1
17:04:06 <dustymabe> option 2
17:04:16 <dustymabe> we find what patch fixes issue and open pull request to dist-git repo
17:04:26 <dustymabe> still needs maintainer
17:04:34 <dustymabe> if maintainer is unresponsive we'll escalate the issue
17:04:41 <dustymabe> ksinny: how does that sound?
17:04:44 <ksinny> dustymabe: any idea what is the IRC nick of mantainer?
17:04:49 <ashcrow> dustymabe: so it's option 1, then if no response, option 2?
17:04:59 <ksinny> dustymabe: sounds fine to me
17:05:03 <dustymabe> ashcrow: yeah. we can wait a day or two for option 2
17:05:08 <ashcrow> SGTM
17:05:19 <dustymabe> ksinny: i'll try to help you find IRC nick of maintainer
17:05:27 <dustymabe> welcome sayan
17:05:29 <ksinny> dustymabe: that will be great
17:05:33 <dustymabe> hi jberkus did you have an item?
17:05:37 * ksinny is done
17:05:44 <jberkus> yes
17:05:51 <jberkus> as I mentioned in the atomic-general meeting
17:06:19 <jberkus> we're going to have a new community manager, hired by Red Hat, involved with Fedora Atomic
17:06:26 <dustymabe> jberkus: woot
17:06:32 <ashcrow> awesome!
17:06:35 <dustymabe> sanja actually attended last meeting
17:06:39 <jberkus> her name is Sanja Bonic
17:06:46 <jberkus> oh?  damn
17:06:50 <dustymabe> and I introduced her as someone who would be hanging around very soon
17:06:51 <jberkus> and I didn't because thanksgiving
17:06:54 <jberkus> ok
17:07:22 <dustymabe> she's great!
17:07:27 <dustymabe> can't wait to have her on board
17:07:37 <jberkus> anyway, lately I've been dividing my time between Atomic and Kubernetes
17:07:46 <jberkus> which has resulted in not enough time for anything
17:07:56 <jberkus> so Sanja and I will be splitting up responsibilities
17:08:25 <jberkus> she officially starts on Friday
17:08:49 <jberkus> I won't be in the meeting next week, though
17:08:54 <jberkus> fin
17:09:26 <dustymabe> cool
17:09:28 <dustymabe> thanks josh
17:09:36 <dustymabe> anyone else with anything for open floor?
17:09:46 <ashcrow> nothing from me
17:09:53 <coremodule> good here
17:11:05 <dustymabe> cool
17:11:08 <dustymabe> #endmeeting