10:59:46 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Badges
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10:59:55 <riecatnor> #meetingname Fedora Badges
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10:59:59 <riecatnor> #chair mleonova
10:59:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor
11:00:29 <mleonova> roll call?
11:00:48 <riecatnor> yes.. anyone else here? :P
11:01:13 <mleonova> misc, how is it going?
11:01:31 <mleonova> sayan, ?
11:01:59 <riecatnor> i guess not
11:02:04 <mleonova> yeah
11:02:38 <mleonova> so what's up
11:03:01 <riecatnor> I am starting to get excited for flock
11:03:18 <mleonova> yeah! me to :)
11:03:26 <riecatnor> I have seen some flock artwork being made
11:03:36 <riecatnor> anything I should know from the design meeting?
11:03:59 <mleonova> uhm.. I can't think of anything
11:04:14 <mleonova> mizmo is doing great work
11:04:18 <mleonova> have you seen the logo?
11:04:21 <riecatnor> ok, well you mentioned what you think we should present
11:04:26 <riecatnor> I saw the beginnings of the tshirt
11:04:58 <mleonova> lemme see if I have it open still
11:05:20 <mleonova> http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2017/04/18/flock-cod-logo-ideas/
11:06:03 <riecatnor> cute!!
11:06:16 <mleonova> so I think we're going for F
11:06:21 <mleonova> and F inverse
11:06:29 <riecatnor> I love it!
11:06:37 <mleonova> and I'll be working on a sticker set with some variations
11:06:56 <mleonova> yeah, I love them too =)
11:07:04 <riecatnor> is there anywhere some more help is needed?
11:07:54 <riecatnor> just gotta say, it really stinks i can’t make it to the meeting.. that’s the easiest way for me to get involved, rather than just grabbing tickets without talking to anyone
11:07:56 <mleonova> there are a couple tickets unassigned
11:08:10 <mleonova> https://pagure.io/design/issues
11:08:30 <riecatnor> wifi portal logo and banners
11:08:47 <riecatnor> oh I could do this banners one easily
11:09:33 <riecatnor> so I am thinking I should request the final logo from mizmo then for that
11:09:51 <riecatnor> ok, I can figure that part out later
11:10:03 <riecatnor> lets talk about what we want to do at flock
11:10:08 <riecatnor> #topic flock
11:10:23 <mleonova> ok cool
11:10:32 <riecatnor> 1. the workshop.. tried and true.. do we want to make any changes or improvements?
11:10:42 <mleonova> I do have the logo files around if you want - not sure if she's changed anything since
11:10:57 <mleonova> soo workshop
11:11:04 <riecatnor> if you could email those that would be great, I can always swap it out if it is updated
11:11:21 <riecatnor> I am pretty happy with the workshop as it is run
11:11:35 <riecatnor> but oh!! it is now with a pagure workflow
11:11:41 <riecatnor> so we need to update that part
11:11:42 <mleonova> I think it's pretty cool as it is, we'll just need new ticket numbers and substitute links for pagure
11:11:57 <riecatnor> yep, ok. I am going to make a task list
11:12:23 <mleonova> ok
11:13:10 <riecatnor> ok, nothing else i can really think for chagnes
11:13:12 <riecatnor> changes*
11:13:32 <riecatnor> I will submit this workshop with you as co?
11:13:39 <mleonova> yeah!
11:14:06 <riecatnor> ok
11:14:08 <riecatnor> on to the next one
11:14:32 <riecatnor> a talk
11:15:26 <riecatnor> so I remember our original idea being “how to work with the design team”
11:15:51 <mleonova> that's right
11:16:02 <mleonova> and I believe we had some sort of plan
11:16:06 <riecatnor> during design team meeting time, has anyone volunteered what talks they are planning to present (or workshops)
11:16:17 <mleonova> nope, not yet
11:16:19 <riecatnor> ok
11:16:29 <riecatnor> so I totally forget our plan
11:16:45 <mleonova> yeah, me too. Let's come up with a new one
11:16:45 <riecatnor> sorry >.<
11:16:47 <riecatnor> oops
11:16:51 <riecatnor> :(
11:16:57 <riecatnor> hahaha
11:17:00 <riecatnor> ok, we are on the same page
11:17:05 <mleonova> no problem at all)
11:17:30 <riecatnor> I think its important that we get the input from the rest of the design team on this
11:17:43 <riecatnor> I think mizmo will have a lot of good points and insight on this as she has been doing it for years
11:17:59 <mleonova> great idea, yeah!
11:18:30 <riecatnor> i think we can have a general outline of what we think it iwll be.. and that input can help fill in
11:18:32 <mleonova> I already have some of her advice on working with devs on UX issues, I'll find it
11:18:37 <riecatnor> great!
11:18:53 <mleonova> gimme a sec, I thought about this before and have a rough outline somewhere
11:18:58 * mleonova is looking
11:19:21 <riecatnor> ok take your time
11:22:27 <mleonova> ok, got it)
11:22:54 <mleonova> let me share via email
11:23:01 <riecatnor> ok
11:23:40 <mleonova> did you get the logos btw?
11:23:59 <riecatnor> yep! thanks
11:24:28 <mleonova> cool
11:25:02 <mleonova> so I was choosing a topic in Sept for UXcampNL and those were 3 suggestions
11:25:08 <riecatnor> gotcha
11:25:11 <riecatnor> which one did you go with
11:25:25 <mleonova> Some stuff can go and I got more on process in my recent presentation
11:25:35 <mleonova> I did the introverts one then
11:25:54 <riecatnor> nice
11:26:30 <riecatnor> so I thin the second one will be good.. but I have to say, I have less experience with this
11:26:47 <mleonova> ok, so some stuff is here: starting p 11 http://redhat.slides.com/mleonova/deck-4-5-7?token=U4A4Ikhe
11:26:47 <riecatnor> I would be happy to assist you however you may need, but I think you are the expert here :)
11:27:07 <mleonova> hehe =)
11:27:47 <mleonova> sure thing: so I could make a preso and then we'll meet and discuss what's what and how to present together
11:28:01 <mleonova> + focus more on badges etc
11:28:20 <riecatnor> yes, how about you start with an outline
11:28:27 <riecatnor> also present to mizmo/design team meeting
11:28:31 <riecatnor> I am making notes btw
11:28:32 <mleonova> of course!
11:29:04 <mleonova> would be lovely to have a video conference later on..
11:29:08 <riecatnor> yes!!
11:29:13 <riecatnor> you can meet my ktity
11:29:16 <riecatnor> kitty
11:29:17 <riecatnor> hehe
11:29:21 <mleonova> ^_^
11:29:22 <riecatnor> so i have a proposal
11:29:43 <riecatnor> I think perhaps we should meeting weekly until these flock presentations are done?
11:29:47 <riecatnor> meet**
11:30:02 <mleonova> yeah, we can do that
11:30:09 <riecatnor> so I think meeting next week at least to follow up on all this is a good idea.. unless we keep a steady flow of communication through email
11:30:17 <riecatnor> plus we skipped :_
11:30:20 <riecatnor> :P
11:30:40 <mleonova> that's true - let's meet next week! cfp will open soon
11:30:45 <mleonova> we need to have a plan
11:30:50 <riecatnor> yep I like this
11:31:06 <riecatnor> ok so lastly
11:31:22 <riecatnor> design team meet up activity or testing
11:32:01 <mleonova> I think we need mizmo's input on this one
11:32:11 <riecatnor> yes,
11:32:25 <riecatnor> for example two years ago i believe we had a design clinic
11:32:27 <riecatnor> it went well
11:32:31 <riecatnor> last year, it was just so so
11:32:34 <riecatnor> no one really showed up
11:32:50 <mleonova> the timing was not great
11:32:53 <riecatnor> gnokii did an poster tutorial which people enjoyed
11:33:01 <mleonova> yeah
11:33:08 <riecatnor> so, lets see what the rest of the team is thinking and we can assist
11:33:18 <mleonova> I'd really love to do some user testing or something
11:33:28 <riecatnor> yeah! that would be cool
11:33:41 <mleonova> maybe some hubs features.. or pagure
11:34:40 <riecatnor> also two years ago mizmo/gnokii did an inkscape GIMP for beginners and it was packed
11:34:43 <riecatnor> so many people came
11:35:01 <riecatnor> so that should be an option too
11:35:18 <mleonova> sounds like we can have a whole day of events  if people are interested
11:35:28 <riecatnor> :P
11:35:32 <riecatnor> that would be so great!!
11:35:37 <mleonova> yeah ^_^
11:35:40 <riecatnor> lets see who wants to do what
11:35:54 <riecatnor> I feel ok running the fedora badges workshop with you and me and then assisting in others
11:36:03 <mleonova> yeah
11:36:13 <riecatnor> I am writing down all the ideas
11:36:19 <riecatnor> when will you meet again with the team
11:37:21 <mleonova> yeah - I think there's a meeting next week
11:37:42 <riecatnor> ok thats good, gives us time to get this stuff together
11:38:32 <riecatnor> if it could work out.. how great would it be for inkscape/gimp for beginners and then right after the badges workshop
11:38:49 <mleonova> something like at FAD
11:38:54 <riecatnor> yess
11:39:05 <riecatnor> people want to do badges, but they struggle with the program
11:39:35 <mleonova> yup
11:40:10 <riecatnor> ok, so lets go with that for now
11:40:24 <riecatnor> I will send you the notes I wrote up
11:40:33 <riecatnor> what else do we have going on
11:40:46 <riecatnor> any comments or thoughts on pagure/wiki changes?
11:40:54 <riecatnor> I forget if that was all finished or how we left it
11:40:59 <mleonova> uhm..let's see
11:41:04 <riecatnor> #topic pagure transition wiki updates
11:41:41 <riecatnor> yes front page looks good
11:41:45 <mleonova> hehe this is cool https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/533
11:41:57 <riecatnor> hahahahaha
11:42:16 <riecatnor> well then
11:42:17 <misc> (sorry, was at lunch :/)
11:42:23 <riecatnor> hey misc
11:42:32 <mleonova> so I'm still not 100% sure about the metadata on bottom right and what's the right way to approve badges
11:42:39 <mleonova> misc, hey! pizza?
11:43:00 <misc> mleonova: salad :)
11:43:03 <riecatnor> yes, agreed. it looks like we need a artwork approved metadate
11:43:05 <riecatnor> metadata
11:43:14 <mleonova> misc, wuut =)
11:43:31 <mleonova> riecatnor, soo yeah
11:43:33 <riecatnor> well I guess the has_artwork line
11:43:37 <misc> so what kind of metadata would you need ?
11:43:38 <riecatnor> could be used as that
11:43:52 <riecatnor> not until someone approves the artwork in the comments could that be set
11:43:53 <mleonova> let's see if we can change it
11:43:57 <riecatnor> to artwork approved
11:44:22 <riecatnor> ok, should we make an issue
11:44:47 <mleonova> riecatnor, we can poke at this: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/settings
11:44:59 <mleonova> Custom issue fields
11:46:09 <riecatnor> ok I see this
11:46:26 <mleonova> riecatnor, just let me know if you are doing anything or I should try it
11:46:40 <riecatnor> so ideally.. we could have one artwork field and have different udpates
11:46:48 <riecatnor> so.. artwork_has_concept
11:46:58 <riecatnor> artwork_has_draft
11:47:06 <riecatnor> artwork_approved
11:47:22 <riecatnor> instead of putting a field for each?
11:47:24 <riecatnor> what are your thoughts
11:47:57 <riecatnor> you can try if you’d like
11:48:27 <mleonova> soo.. artwork as a field
11:48:36 <riecatnor> yes.. its artwork_concept
11:48:39 <riecatnor> which really makes no sense
11:48:58 <mleonova> and then field type list
11:49:13 <mleonova> and then i can try adding values
11:50:41 <mleonova> ok, try that
11:50:49 <mleonova> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/533
11:50:54 <mleonova> riecatnor, ^^
11:51:04 <riecatnor> I see artwor
11:51:07 <riecatnor> artwork*
11:51:16 <riecatnor> and then one later that says has_artwork
11:51:25 <riecatnor> oh nice!
11:51:28 <riecatnor> i see the drop down now
11:51:29 <riecatnor> that works
11:51:41 <misc> the UX could be improved so there is some color code or something to see the status right away, I think
11:52:08 <riecatnor> should we get rid of the has_artwork field then
11:52:58 <mleonova> we can try
11:53:49 <mleonova> ok?
11:55:03 <mleonova> do you want to get rid of concept_review_passed, too?
11:55:21 <riecatnor> no keep that
11:55:29 <riecatnor> as I believe it refers to the badge concept has a whole
11:55:32 <riecatnor> vs. the artwork
11:55:36 <mleonova> ok, cool
11:55:52 <mleonova> wonder why it doesn't show stuff from the dropdown list tho
11:56:03 <mleonova> misc, that's right
11:56:43 <mleonova> I can try pinging pingou
11:56:46 <riecatnor> ok
11:56:50 <riecatnor> I actually have to run for now
11:56:56 <riecatnor> but I think this is already an improvement
11:56:59 <riecatnor> so thats cool
11:57:05 <riecatnor> thanks mleonova :)
11:57:13 <mleonova> thanks, riecatnor )
11:57:19 <mleonova> have a wonderful day!
11:57:20 <riecatnor> ok, I will talk to you soon!
11:57:22 <riecatnor> you too!!!
11:57:25 <riecatnor> #endmeeting