20:57:18 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing meeting (2016-06-29)
20:57:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 29 20:57:18 2016 UTC.  The chair is jflory7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:57:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_meeting_(2016-06-29)'
20:57:25 <jflory7> #meetingname marketing
20:57:25 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'marketing'
20:57:32 <jflory7> #topic Roll Call
20:57:35 <nb> .hello nb
20:57:36 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nb@nb.zone>
20:57:37 <jflory7> #info Name; Timezone; Other sub-projects / interest areas
20:58:02 <jflory7> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-4; Marketing / Magazine, CommOps, Ambassadors, Infrastructure-fi, Join, and more
20:58:04 <jflory7> #chair nb
20:58:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 nb
20:58:09 <jflory7> o/
20:59:08 <jflory7> Oh, and here is today's meeting agenda. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2016-06-29 Will wait another 5 minutes or so for some others to arrive.
21:00:34 * mizmo lurks
21:01:04 <nb> #chair mizmo
21:01:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 mizmo nb
21:01:17 <jflory7> Heyo!
21:02:14 <cydrobolt> o/
21:02:28 <jflory7> #chair cydrobolt
21:02:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: cydrobolt jflory7 mizmo nb
21:02:34 <jflory7> \o
21:02:51 <cydrobolt> Hey
21:03:29 <mizmo> o/
21:05:09 <jflory7> Alrighty. Figure we can go ahead and get started, anyone else who rolls in later can say hello.
21:05:21 <jflory7> #topic Announcements
21:05:26 <jflory7> #info === "Behind the new Fedora Developer Portal" ===
21:05:30 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/behind-new-fedora-developer-portal/
21:05:36 <jflory7> #info The Developer Portal for developers using Fedora or wanting to contribute to Fedora has had some new changes. Read up on what's new in the Developer Portal and a little bit of background behind its inception in the Fedora Magazine article.
21:05:41 <jflory7> #info === "Friends. Features. Freedom. First. Forever." ===
21:05:47 <jflory7> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/commops@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/CG5JS4DQ3G2TVA5YZX7LBOSXVNCUPTIB/
21:05:52 <jflory7> #info On Friday, decause announced on the mailing list that he will be leaving his position at Red Hat to become the Open Source Campaign Manager for a candidate in the US elections. We wish decause well in his future endeavors and will always be happy to see him in Fedora whenever he has the time to stop by. For the time being, the Fedora Community Lead position will remain open.
21:06:02 <jflory7> Oh, and I have one more PR-related one that didn't make it to the wiki
21:06:23 <jflory7> #info === "Makeuseof: Fedora Design Suite: Best of the Basics" ===
21:06:25 <jflory7> #link http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-linux-distros-designed-artists-musicians-editors/
21:07:17 <jflory7> #info Fedora Design Suite was recently featured as one of the best Linux distros targeted towards designers who want the best of the basics. Check it out and feel free to share it around. Thanks Luya Tshimbalanga for pointing it out!
21:07:35 <jflory7> I'm going to try to do a small pointer on the Community Blog for it, but no promises.
21:07:42 <jflory7> Anyone else have any announcements they want to throw out?
21:08:49 <jflory7> If not, we can move on to previous meeting action items.
21:09:48 <jflory7> #topic Action items from last meetings
21:09:54 <jflory7> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-06-22/marketing.2016-06-22-20.57.html
21:10:01 <jflory7> #info === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Work on creating an initial "template" draft for Friends of Fedora websites example ===
21:10:06 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Work on creating an initial "template" draft for Friends of Fedora websites example
21:10:19 <jflory7> ^ working on getting the time to write this one up
21:10:20 <jflory7> #info === [INCOMPLETE] linuxmodder Take screenshots for F24 KDE and Xfce and upload to the screenshots page on the wiki ===
21:10:27 <jflory7> #nick linuxmodder
21:10:29 <jflory7> #action linuxmodder Take screenshots for F24 KDE and Xfce and upload to the screenshots page on the wiki
21:10:44 <linuxmodder> sorry I got sidetracked
21:10:44 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Follow up with linuxmodder on KDE / Xfce screenshots
21:10:49 <jflory7> #undo
21:10:49 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 21:10:44 : jflory7 Follow up with linuxmodder on KDE / Xfce screenshots
21:10:54 <linuxmodder> .fas linuxmodder
21:10:55 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org>
21:10:58 <jflory7> #chair linuxmodder
21:10:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: cydrobolt jflory7 linuxmodder mizmo nb
21:11:08 <linuxmodder> been getting pulled in 1M  different ways
21:11:26 <linuxmodder> if someone is willing and has the time pls  take that football
21:11:32 <jflory7> linuxmodder: No worries, that's relatable.
21:11:35 <jflory7> Thanks for the update.
21:11:37 <jflory7> #undo
21:11:37 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 21:10:29 : linuxmodder Take screenshots for F24 KDE and Xfce and upload to the screenshots page on the wiki
21:11:57 <jflory7> #action marketing-team-member Take screenshots for F24 KDE and Xfce and upload to the screenshots page on the wiki
21:11:58 <jflory7> #nick marketing-team-member
21:12:09 <jflory7> #info === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Put up an initial wiki page for F23 marketing retrospective, check in with mailga, share with Marketing team ===
21:12:14 <jflory7> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F24_marketing_retrospective
21:12:18 <jflory7> ^ needs socializing and sharing.
21:12:29 <jflory7> Going to do a blast to the Marketing list soon, can probably do after this meeting
21:12:43 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Post to Marketing mailing list about F24 retrospective
21:12:50 <jflory7> #topic Tickets
21:12:56 <jflory7> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/report/12
21:13:06 <jflory7> There's four tickets on the table tonight.
21:13:09 <jflory7> Two previous, two new
21:13:33 <jflory7> I'm going to vote on skipping #222 and #226 for now since there's no new information since last week.
21:13:50 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #229 ===
21:13:52 <jflory7> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/229
21:13:58 <jflory7> #info "Shared, secure password distribution"
21:14:01 <jflory7> In ​previous discussions, we had talked about secure password management and distribution to safely and securely distribute confidential information such as passwords for social media accounts or other Fedora-related, shared accounts. This ticket has the two proposed options listed side-by-side for us to take a vote on. Depending on meeting attendance, we can begin voting now, or we can put it out for votes on the mailing list.
21:14:25 <jflory7> bkp was more familiar with the Rattic option. I've never used it before or know much about it.
21:14:33 <jflory7> I put what I did know about pass into the ticket.
21:15:40 <jflory7> #help Marketing team members, please review Ticket #229 and add comments / take a vote on the two options so we can move forward on choosing an option for secure password distribution and propose it to Infrastructure.
21:16:23 <jflory7> Anyone have anything they want to ask now or throw out there about the options?
21:16:31 <jflory7> Or any questions about the ticket?
21:17:52 * nb thinks we should use pass
21:18:31 <jflory7> I use pass for my personal password management, and it's definitely a powerful tool
21:18:56 <jflory7> It's based off of a tried and tested technology for securing the passwords (GPG)
21:19:29 <jflory7> My biggest concern would be for more modular customization of permissions for passwords - the way I envision it working is someone either has access to none or all of the passwords in the repo.
21:19:41 <nb> yeah
21:19:41 <jflory7> Unless there's a way to do directories with certain GPG keys?
21:19:49 * jflory7 isn't sure
21:20:14 <nb> its all or nothing i believe
21:20:23 <jflory7> Anyways, I'll also throw it out to the list. I'm hoping bkp or someone else who knows more about Rattic could explain it a bit as I'm not familiar with it at all.
21:22:07 <jflory7> #agreed Will post to the list about the ticket, collect votes for a proposal to bring to Infrastructure later on
21:22:15 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #230 ===
21:22:21 <jflory7> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/230
21:22:27 <jflory7> #info "Moving to Pagure"
21:22:31 <jflory7> The Fedora Infrastructure team is planning on sunsetting Fedora Hosted repositories in the coming future (tried finding where this announcement or discussion originally happened, but had a hard time finding it). Eventually, the idea is for all projects using Fedora Hosted to migrate to Pagure. We will be expected / planned to be migrated in the foreseeable future.
21:22:55 <jflory7> nirik: ping, if you happen to be around to ask a question about Pagure migration tools.
21:23:48 * jflory7 can't remember who was heading up development efforts on that tool
21:25:44 * jflory7 is digging for links or info about it, but having a hard time finding things
21:25:52 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/pagure/issue/271
21:26:03 <jflory7> Oh, here it is. https://pagure.io/pagure-importer
21:26:05 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/pagure-importer
21:26:06 <nirik> There's a tool, it's coming along, but still doesn't support attachments yet.
21:26:10 <nirik> thats the summary.
21:26:31 <jflory7> Okay, so only attachments.
21:26:56 * jflory7 can't really think of many tickets in Marketing that use attachments
21:27:06 <jflory7> But it might be better to just wait and hold off for now, then.
21:27:11 <jflory7> For archival purposes.
21:27:47 <jflory7> #info The tool is in progress and coming along, but does not yet support attachments in Trac tickets yet. Might be best to wait for attachment support to be added and then consider moving from Trac to Pagure then.
21:27:52 <jflory7> nirik++ Thanks for the summary.
21:27:54 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for kevin changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:28:35 <jflory7> I think that pretty much speaks for itself right now, then.
21:29:02 <jflory7> We can probably take this off the meeting agenda until attachments are ready and revisit then
21:29:13 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Update ticket #230, remove from meeting agenda for now
21:29:36 <jflory7> #topic Upcoming Tasks
21:29:41 <jflory7> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-marketing-tasks.html
21:29:46 <jflory7> #info (1) Marketing Retrospective (due: Tue 2016-07-05)
21:29:50 <jflory7> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F24_marketing_retrospective
21:30:03 <jflory7> The wiki page for the F24 Marketing retrospective is created, although pretty empty.
21:30:41 <jflory7> If anyone who has contributed to marketing in any sense this release cycle could add some thoughts / opinions about how they felt about what we did well, what wasn't so hot, what could be improved, that would be extremely helpful. :)
21:31:23 <jflory7> #help Marketing members, please add your thoughts and opinions on Marketing performance and ideas for improvement this release cycle to the F24 Marketing retrospective wiki page. Anyone who has contributed this release is welcome to add to it! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F24_marketing_retrospective
21:32:01 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
21:32:17 <jflory7> Anyone have anything they want to add for Open Floor?
21:33:45 <jflory7> If not, we can close out early today.
21:34:33 <jflory7> Going once...
21:34:43 <jflory7> Going twice...
21:34:48 <jflory7> Thrice...
21:35:07 <jflory7> Okay, thanks for coming out today, all. Hope to see you all next week...
21:35:09 <jflory7> #endmeeting