20:55:52 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing meeting (2016-04-13)
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20:55:54 <jflory7> #meetingname marketing
20:55:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'marketing'
20:56:05 <jflory7> #topic Roll Call
20:56:07 <jflory7> #info Name; Timezone; Other sub-projects / interest areas
20:56:25 <jflory7> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-4; Marketing / Magazine, CommOps, Ambassadors, Join, and more
20:56:35 <jflory7> We'll wait roughly another 10 minutes for folks to come in.
20:56:57 <nb> .hello nb
20:56:59 <bkp> #info Brian Proffitt; UTC-4; Social Media
20:57:00 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <>
20:57:26 <jflory7> #chair nb bkp
20:57:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: bkp jflory7 nb
20:57:28 <ardian> .hello ardian
20:57:30 <zodbot> ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <>
20:57:33 <jflory7> #chair ardian
20:57:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian bkp jflory7 nb
20:57:47 <nb> #info Nick Bebout; UTC-5; Ambassadors, Sysadmin, and such
20:58:43 <linuxmodder> .hellomynameis  corey84
20:58:45 <zodbot> linuxmodder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' <>
20:59:31 <linuxmodder> #info Corey Sheldon 'corey84|linuxmodder'  UTC -5  security,docs,commops,ambassadors,campus-ambassadors,infra
20:59:49 <bkp> .hello bproffit
20:59:50 <zodbot> bkp: bproffit 'Brian Proffitt' <>
20:59:56 <jflory7> #chair linuxmodder
20:59:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian bkp jflory7 linuxmodder nb
21:00:00 <jflory7> Afternoon / evening, all!
21:00:08 <decause> .hello decause
21:00:09 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <>
21:00:11 <jflory7> #chair decause
21:00:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian bkp decause jflory7 linuxmodder nb
21:00:14 <bkp> Happy timezone.
21:00:35 <jflory7> That's a good way of putting it :P
21:00:42 <decause> bkp++
21:01:02 <linuxmodder> everyone is  utc -5  aren't they atm?
21:01:34 <jflory7> We have a few UTC+1. US EST is UTC-4 if I recall, right now.
21:02:24 <nb> linuxmodder, i am UTC-5, jflory7 and bkp are UTC-4
21:02:27 <nb> not sure about others
21:03:14 <jflory7> .localtime ardian
21:03:15 <zodbot> jflory7: The current local time of "ardian" is: "23:03" (timezone: Europe/Skopje)
21:03:26 <bkp> FYI jflory7, will have to leave at :20 after
21:03:48 <bkp> (Single parent taxi service this week)
21:03:50 <linuxmodder> so am I utc -4  forgot the time change  I'm  east coast
21:03:55 <jflory7> bkp: Oh, that's good to know. Let's go ahead and jump into this meeting now then.
21:04:05 <mizmo> linuxmodder: i think east coast is utc -4 now yeh
21:04:10 <mizmo> linuxmodder: we're EDT now
21:04:17 <jflory7> Let's fly through announcements and action items
21:04:24 <jflory7> #chair mizmo
21:04:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian bkp decause jflory7 linuxmodder mizmo nb
21:04:24 <linuxmodder> EDT is  a  crock btw  j/s
21:04:25 <jflory7> #topic Announcements
21:04:30 <jflory7> #info === Call for Nominations: Fedora Server Working Group ===
21:04:37 <jflory7> #link
21:04:37 <linuxmodder> announcements anyone ?
21:04:43 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Server Working Group has a seat open in the working group as a member has stepped down. If you have wanted to get involved with the Fedora Server Working Group, there has never been a better time. Get more information about the nomination process on the Community Blog.
21:04:48 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora 24 Wallpapers: Vote now!" ===
21:04:50 <linuxmodder> !  have one for later
21:04:52 <jflory7> #link
21:04:58 <jflory7> #info Fedora 24 Supplementary Wallpapers are now open for voting! Fedora contributors that are a member of CLA+1 can vote for 16 wallpapers to be included in the F24 supplementary wallpapers. You can also earn a snazzy new badge for participating in the voting process!
21:05:04 <jflory7> #info === "Call for Contributors: Fedora 24 Release Notes" ===
21:05:08 <jflory7> #link
21:05:12 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Docs Team is looking for help in writing the F24 Release Notes. If writing docs is your thing and you want to help write them for Fedora 24, learn more about how you can get involved!
21:05:21 <jflory7> FYI, for anyone who doesn't have it, I'm looking here:
21:05:23 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Go for it!
21:05:29 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  on that ^ RN  beta or  final ?
21:05:43 * nb is missing a nuancier badge or two
21:05:44 <jflory7> linuxmodder: I believe final, but randomuser would be the best point of contact for that question
21:05:55 <nb> maybe i forgot to click the link after voting, but i'm pretty sure i've always voted for wallpaper
21:06:29 <jflory7> nb: Hmm, might be good to follow up on #fedora-apps for that one. Or I guess you could issue them yourself as well. /me isn't sure what the procedure is for that right now
21:06:32 <mizmo> nb: there was a bug with the badge during at least one release
21:06:38 <mizmo> nb: file a badges bug
21:06:45 <linuxmodder> with the  samba  release yesterday I will cross posting a  WP post on how to properly  patch it and  what it was feel free to  share far a wide ( including adapting for  blog /mag)
21:06:59 * nb guesses I could just issue them to myself
21:07:29 <jflory7> Yeah, a Magazine article would be a good idea for this. linuxmodder, want to bring this up tomorrow at the Magazine meeting?
21:07:32 <jflory7> Any other announcements?
21:07:37 <jflory7> jbishop, ardian_: o/
21:07:47 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  I plan to  post it  within 2 hours  but  sure
21:07:52 <ardian_> On phone here
21:07:58 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Let's discuss in #fedora-mktg in a bit, then
21:08:01 <jflory7> #chair ardian_
21:08:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian ardian_ bkp decause jflory7 linuxmodder mizmo nb
21:08:08 <jflory7> Okay, let's go on to action items
21:08:16 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  btw once  fedmsg  pick it up  feel free to   mod it  for a   mag  article  cc-by-sa
21:08:19 <jflory7> #topic Action items from last meetings
21:08:22 <jflory7> #link
21:08:27 <jflory7> #info === [COMPLETE] jflory7 Add basic information about PyCon NA to Ticket #219 ===
21:08:31 <jflory7> #link
21:08:36 <jflory7> #info === [INCOMPLETE] ryanlerch Review Marketing Trac ticket #210 about Fedora Magazine categories ===
21:08:43 <jflory7> #nick ryanlerch
21:08:44 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Follow up with ryanlerch about Marketing Trac ticket #210 for Fedora Magazine categories
21:08:49 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  or at the hack session sure thing
21:08:52 <jflory7> #info === [COMPLETE] decause copy-review the python brochure with jflory7 after mktg meeting today ===
21:08:59 <jflory7> #link
21:09:04 <jflory7> #info === [INCOMPLETE] jflory7 Parse the CommOps power sessions pad for the Python "targeting categories" and ticket-ify the info to make later discussion easier ===
21:09:10 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Parse the CommOps power sessions pad for the Python "targeting categories" and ticket-ify the info to make later discussion easier
21:09:15 <jflory7> #info === decause file tickets for adding links to the front page for and fp.o/easyfix ===
21:09:23 <jflory7> decause: This completed or in progress?
21:09:56 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Hack session was canceled for CommOps today, I'm not going to be able to make it and decause is working on budget tasks. :( There was an update on the mailing list.
21:10:45 <jflory7> I'll follow up with decause's in a bit. Let's just go ahead and jump to tickets while we have bkp here.
21:10:46 * linuxmodder hasn't seen his email in hours  makes sense
21:10:49 <jflory7> #topic Tickets
21:10:56 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #223 ===
21:11:01 <jflory7> #link
21:11:06 <jflory7> #info "Create Social Media Accounts for Fedora on Diaspora and GNU Social"
21:11:09 <jflory7> bkp: Any news or progress on this ticket?
21:11:15 <jflory7> Anything we can help you out with here?
21:11:28 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  there is a #fedora on already
21:11:40 <bkp> jflory7: In progress, put on hold for my PTO. Will tackle tomorrow
21:11:56 <jflory7> bkp: Sounds good, I'll reaction this to you for follow-up next week
21:12:09 <bkp> linuxmodder: Good to know.
21:12:15 <linuxmodder> bkp,   if you need any help on the platform side
21:12:20 <bkp> jflory7: Thanks
21:12:21 <jflory7> #action bkp Continue looking into Diaspora and GNU Social for Fedora and update the Marketing team at next week's meeting
21:12:39 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #219 ===
21:12:39 <linuxmodder> #action linuxmodder  to  backup bkp on ticket  229
21:12:51 <linuxmodder> #undo
21:12:51 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by linuxmodder at 21:12:39 : linuxmodder  to  backup bkp on ticket  229
21:12:51 <jflory7> #link
21:12:56 <linuxmodder> #action linuxmodder  to  backup bkp on ticket  223
21:13:05 <bkp> linuxmodder: ++
21:13:05 <jflory7> #info "Create Python talking points for Ambassadors"
21:13:12 <jflory7> Banner seems to be almost be ready for print; there is some more feedback added into the ticket, but this should be the last round of feedback to add into the brochure. jflory7 is still working on getting the "categories" from a raw format into a more readable format for Ticket #219. Anything else to work on this ticket in the meanwhile?
21:13:22 <jflory7> bkp: Did you catch the latest feedback on the brochure?
21:13:32 <jflory7> There's a few more comments now, but I think this is the last round of feedback.
21:13:41 <jflory7> After this, I think it will be good to hit the press.
21:14:15 <bkp> jflory7: I did not. I did not monitor while I was gone, and TBH I thought feedback was done.
21:14:28 <bkp> Will look immediately and update files.
21:14:35 * decause doesn't have any additional things, other than Fedora PyCon housing has been booked
21:14:42 <jflory7> bkp: Okay, just take a peek in the ticket and take a look. I think it should be mostly straightforward.
21:14:54 <bkp> jflory7: Ack. My bad.
21:14:59 <linuxmodder> about the second  ?  from comment 5  I may
21:15:00 <jflory7> No worries!
21:15:44 <jflory7> #action bkp Look at the latest feedback in Ticket #219 for the Python brochures and incorporate it into the brochure; add newest files to the ticket
21:16:09 <jflory7> #agreed Once the latest Python brochure changes are incorporated, it should be good-to-print
21:16:15 <jflory7> decause++ Sounds good.
21:16:40 <jflory7> So, bkp, I think this is all specific items that we wanted to check in with you. :)
21:16:46 <jflory7> As for the rest of this ticket...
21:17:09 <bkp> jflory7: Ack: Thanks, out.
21:17:16 <jflory7> Is there anything else we want to work on beyond the brochures and what we want to do next?
21:17:22 <jflory7> bkp: Thanks for coming by!
21:17:24 <jflory7> bkp++
21:19:56 <linuxmodder> will look over it  in current  form  later  but  not thinking so
21:20:50 <jflory7> I'm thinking we check back in on this after the two existing action items are complete
21:21:03 <decause> sgtm
21:21:11 <jflory7> bkp is going on the brochure, and I'll be working on creating the categories.
21:22:38 <jflory7> #agreed We will check back in with this ticket and future plans later on. bkp is working on the brochure and getting it updated with new feedback and jflory7 is working on putting the raw notes into a more readable format in the ticket.
21:22:57 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #222 ===
21:23:01 <jflory7> #link
21:23:06 <jflory7> #info "Publicizing "Fedora affiliates" (or groups using Fedora)"
21:23:11 <jflory7> #link
21:23:14 <jflory7> Any new updates to share on this ticket?
21:23:23 <jflory7> jbishop: If you're around, have anything to share?
21:23:53 <jbishop> Not much, though I did transfer my notes over to the wiki. The link is here:
21:24:42 <decause> jbishop: good start
21:25:21 <jbishop> My next start is to write some actual copy for the headings.
21:25:27 <jbishop> next step*
21:26:25 <jflory7> #link
21:26:47 <jflory7> jbishop++
21:26:47 * jflory7 takes a read
21:27:49 <jflory7> #link
21:28:14 * linuxmodder delayed to  reply  helping with a  funny efi  install in #fedora
21:28:50 <jflory7> jbishop: This is looking like a good start to me. You said you're still working on adding more things in?
21:29:42 <jbishop> jflory7, Yeah. I'd like to add blurbs to each of the headings on the Affiliates page to make them more exciting.
21:29:54 <jflory7> #idea A possible advantage for affiliates is to have their logos and organization info on a public location, like the sponsors page.
21:29:58 <jflory7> #link
21:30:28 <jflory7> jbishop: Okay, cool, sounds like a plan then. Think it would be good to go by next week?
21:30:37 <jbishop> I'll do what I can.
21:31:05 <jflory7> Sure thing. We can check in next week. My train of thinking is that once it's in a form you're happy about, we can ship it off to the mailing list for feedback among the rest of the team.
21:31:25 <jbishop> Sounds good.
21:31:43 <jflory7> #idea For educational affiliates, it would be a good idea to understand how they use Fedora in their school(s) and what students use Fedora installations for
21:31:47 <linuxmodder> now let's populate it  :)
21:31:55 * jflory7 is doing some brainstorming with #ideas right now
21:32:51 <jflory7> #idea Affiliates could have some kind of special mention in local Fedora events (i.e. FUDcons) or maybe even the premier Fedora event, Flock? Would need extra consideration for this part.
21:33:01 <jbishop> Do you think there should be a separate section for educational affiliates?
21:33:06 <jflory7> Hmmmm...
21:33:11 <jflory7> decause: What do you think of that? ^^
21:33:14 <jbishop> Like a subhead on the current affiliates page?
21:33:38 * jflory7 weighs the pros and cons in his head
21:34:00 <decause> jflory7: I think that for planning purposes, we keep them all in the same place for now. Putting EDU's on the sponsors page seems odd though
21:34:07 <decause> brainstorming is good though
21:34:20 <jflory7> On one hand, it gives a targeted approach towards educational institutions and could be a great way to show other schools / universities examples of other schools running Fedora. But then it also separates them away a little bit too much, and if we're just getting started, we may not have as many affiliates.
21:34:29 <jflory7> decause++
21:34:35 <jflory7> Oh, wait--
21:34:42 <jflory7> The sponsors page was just an example. :)
21:34:45 <decause> I think that talking mostly about the publicity/light that we bring as a benefit is good. Also mentioning being more tightly connected to upstream devs is good
21:34:50 <decause> jflory7: yeah, figured
21:34:52 <jflory7> So instead of, it could
21:35:01 <decause> jflory7: thats def more like it
21:35:13 * decause misses
21:35:39 <decause> anywho
21:35:57 <jflory7> So, jbishop, let's find an #action here for you.
21:36:41 <jflory7> #proposedaction jbishop Continue working on the Affiliates and Current Affiliates wiki pages for now and try to bring it closer to a final draft. Once ready, share the pages on the Marketing mailing list to get feedback among the rest of the team.
21:36:45 <jflory7> Sound good?
21:36:50 <jbishop> Sounds good.
21:36:53 <jflory7> PErfect.
21:36:59 <jflory7> #action jbishop Continue working on the Affiliates and Current Affiliates wiki pages for now and try to bring it closer to a final draft. Once ready, share the pages on the Marketing mailing list to get feedback among the rest of the team.
21:37:12 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #210 ===
21:37:16 <jflory7> #link
21:37:21 <jflory7> #info "Magazine Categories - Reorganization?"
21:37:32 <jflory7> #info jflory7 will follow up with ryanlerch on this ticket. No other news to report.
21:37:47 <jflory7> Okay, and that's all the tickets I have down.
21:37:58 <jflory7> I think that wraps us up for tickets!
21:38:05 <jflory7> #topic Upcoming Tasks
21:38:07 <jflory7> #link
21:38:14 <jflory7> #info Current / upcoming tasks:
21:38:20 <jflory7> #info (1) Proposed Changes Profiles (due: Tue 2016-04-05)
21:38:25 <jflory7> #link
21:38:31 <jflory7> #info (2) Update and Package Firefox Bookmarks (due: Thu 2016-03-31)
21:38:36 <jflory7> #link
21:38:42 <jflory7> #info (3) Tag Updated Bookmarks Package for Fedora 24 (due: Thu 2016-03-31)
21:38:48 <jflory7> #info (4) Beta Freeze (00:00 UTC) (due: Tue 2016-04-19)
21:39:05 <jflory7> decause: Any idea of any older Marketing members who might be able to chime in on those mailing list threads?
21:40:07 <decause> if we have trouble getting feedback from the list, we can ask for specific member feedback
21:40:46 <decause> jflory7: lets see what comes back
21:41:53 <jflory7> decause: Okay, let's check in again next week on those then. If no response then, let's do some poking
21:42:58 <jflory7> #agreed We will wait one more week to hear back on the mailing list threads. If no response, we will ask individual Marketing team members for more info.
21:43:03 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
21:43:11 <jflory7> Okay, open floor! Anyone have anything to add here?
21:43:21 <jflory7> We're doing good on time. :)
21:43:46 <decause> nod nod nod
21:45:00 <linuxmodder> 15 mins  good  :)
21:46:59 <jflory7> If nothing else, we will close up in three minutes.
21:50:35 <jflory7> Okay, thanks for coming out today, everyone!
21:50:38 <jflory7> See you all next week.
21:50:40 <jflory7> #endmeeting