17:01:10 <kushal> #startmeeting Fedora Cloud SIG
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17:01:17 <kushal> #topic Roll Call
17:01:23 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
17:01:26 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com>
17:01:27 <dustymabe> kushal: can I try to run it this week?
17:01:33 <dustymabe> .hellomynameis dustymabe
17:01:34 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
17:01:46 <rtnpro> .fas rtnpro
17:01:46 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
17:01:52 <jbrooks> .fas jasonbrooks
17:01:55 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <JBROOKS@REDHAT.COM>
17:01:59 <kushal> #chair dustymabe rtnpro jbrooks
17:01:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jbrooks kushal rtnpro
17:02:05 <kushal> dustymabe, stage is yours :D
17:02:11 <adimania> .hellomynameis adimania
17:02:18 <zodbot> adimania: adimania 'Aditya Patawari' <adimania@gmail.com>
17:03:13 <kushal> jsmith, jzb number80 mattdm
17:03:52 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury
17:03:54 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
17:04:26 <dustymabe> #topic "Last week action itemds"
17:04:41 <dustymabe> rtnpro sayan kushal will work to create testcases and try out NM and networkd, docs on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Network-Requirements
17:04:42 <kushal> dustymabe, no need of quotes :)
17:04:43 <dustymabe> kushal will test and update the rel-eng ticket with the latest tree
17:04:45 <dustymabe> scollier will break up https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/84 into consumable tickets.
17:04:47 <dustymabe> number80 to update the PRD with i686 details
17:04:49 <dustymabe> jbrooks to update the wiki
17:04:51 <dustymabe> kushal to update ticket with links
17:04:53 <dustymabe> everyone to take some time to look at the PRD and come back with comments
17:04:55 <dustymabe> adimania to write a patch for getfedora.org copy and submit to the list
17:04:57 <dustymabe> number80 make proposal on cloud & atomic list to have joint meetings
17:04:59 <dustymabe> roshi to update the wiki that things are signed off, and close the ticket.
17:05:01 <dustymabe> kushal: ok
17:05:02 * roshi is here
17:05:12 <roshi> I closed the ticket and updated the wiki
17:05:18 <kushal> dustymabe, so I started helping out rtnpro for building fedora images
17:05:19 <jbrooks> dustymabe, I updated the wiki
17:05:46 <adimania> I have sent out a mail with new text
17:05:48 <kushal> but missed to update the rel-eng side work, all my efforts went into autocloud project (mostly)
17:05:52 <rtnpro> kushal, I built my first fedora cloud image with NM :)
17:06:01 <kushal> ah, good
17:06:08 <adimania> It would be nice if people can comment on that.
17:06:31 <dustymabe> roshi: jbrooks ack kushal ack
17:06:45 <dustymabe> kushal: action yourself if there is more work that needs to be done there
17:07:03 <dustymabe> adimania: I think we are good to go on that text
17:07:16 <dustymabe> one of the marketing folks is already running with it I believe
17:07:29 <adimania> Yeah.
17:07:35 <kushal> dustymabe, I will
17:07:42 <kushal> #action kushal will test and update the rel-eng ticket with the latest tree
17:07:56 <adimania> I'll ask them about how and where i can put up a patch or pull request
17:07:59 <dustymabe> number80: ping - you here?
17:08:37 <dustymabe> so I know number80 did this one: number80 make proposal on cloud & atomic list to have joint meetings
17:08:53 <roshi> yeah, I saw that
17:09:01 <kushal> dustymabe, Yes
17:09:02 <dustymabe> so that one is done. although we need to respond to his mail and maybe hammer out a time when we can have joint meetings
17:09:25 <dustymabe> I don't know about this one: number80 to update the PRD with i686 details
17:09:59 <roshi> not sure on that either
17:10:07 <dustymabe> ok
17:10:12 <dustymabe> #action number80 to update the PRD with i686 details
17:10:23 <dustymabe> is scollier here?
17:10:28 <scollier> dustymabe, yessir
17:10:39 <dustymabe> scollier: scollier will break up https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/84 into consumable tickets. ??
17:11:02 <scollier> dustymabe, no progress.  will focus right now. should see some tickets coming in.
17:11:06 <dustymabe> ok
17:11:13 <dustymabe> #action scollier will break up https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/84 into consumable tickets.
17:11:26 <adimania> On this ticket, i will move master to dnf as well
17:11:29 <dustymabe> ok I think we are through last weeks stuff?
17:11:36 <scollier> adimania, ok
17:12:05 <dustymabe> #topic Investigate systemd-networkd
17:12:10 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/14
17:12:52 <kushal> dustymabe, so we just started working on the NM part.
17:13:07 <kushal> I will help rtnpro to build images with NM, and then we can compare.
17:13:18 <dustymabe> kushal: cool deal
17:13:25 <dustymabe> next topic then
17:13:25 <rtnpro> :)
17:13:31 <kushal> dustymabe, sayan will not be able to help on this one directly, as he does not have a system with enough bandwidth
17:13:58 <dustymabe> kushal: bandwidth == internet connection bandwidth?
17:14:04 <kushal> dustymabe, Yes
17:14:11 <kushal> dustymabe, we live in India :)
17:14:33 <dustymabe> kushal: ok. well if there is some stuff that could be done in public cloud then that may be an option
17:14:58 <dustymabe> might be able to set up an account for that
17:15:14 <kushal> dustymabe, Nope, nested virt does not work there :)
17:15:24 <dustymabe> ahh ok. you need nested virt
17:15:27 <dustymabe> didn't know that
17:15:32 <dustymabe> ok moving on
17:15:40 <dustymabe> #topic Care and Feeding, Fedora Dockerfiles
17:15:49 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/84
17:16:04 <dustymabe> I think adimania and scollier are on it.
17:16:13 <dustymabe> Probably not much that needs to be said
17:16:17 <adimania> F22 branch is on dnf
17:16:35 <adimania> I will work on master as well.
17:16:42 <adimania> That is all i got.
17:16:53 <dustymabe> groovy
17:17:03 * scollier created 2 tickets...
17:17:35 <dustymabe> scollier: links?
17:17:51 <scollier> dustymabe, wasn't there a conversation about adding nulecule artifacts to these?  i think vpavlin is on that.
17:18:15 <dustymabe> scollier: to Fedora-dockerfiles repo?
17:18:23 <scollier> dustymabe, and centos
17:18:41 <dustymabe> scollier: yeah. I think we are working on our strategy for where all of this stuff is going to live
17:19:03 <dustymabe> definitely something we are going to be working on soon I think
17:19:30 <scollier> dustymabe, https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121
17:19:41 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/121
17:19:51 <scollier> dustymabe, https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122
17:19:58 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/122
17:20:02 <dustymabe> ok cool
17:20:09 <dustymabe> moving on to next item...
17:20:20 <dustymabe> #topic Producing Updated Cloud/Atomic Images
17:20:33 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/94
17:21:33 <kushal> dustymabe, as I said, I could not work on the release tree testing
17:21:37 <scollier> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/123
17:21:52 <kushal> may be someone else can help me out if he/she has free time
17:21:54 <kushal> I can help.
17:23:24 <dustymabe> kushal: ok
17:23:38 <kushal> I can help for the setup and testing
17:23:48 <scollier> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/124
17:23:51 <dustymabe> yeah I think this may be something that we just pick up after F23 since it is so close
17:24:16 <dustymabe> kushal: rather than focus effort on F22 would it not be better to make sure we have everything working great for F23
17:24:29 <kushal> dustymabe, Okay.
17:24:44 <dustymabe> all the work that we have done would then pick up smoothly for F23 and we can release images monthly or so
17:24:50 <dustymabe> since all of the ground work is in place?
17:25:18 <kushal> dustymabe, yes, we will have automated testing by then.
17:25:55 <dustymabe> #info We are going to concentrate on F23 release and then produce updated F23 images using the infrastructure we built
17:26:08 <dustymabe> next item?
17:26:23 <dustymabe> #topic Missing Cockpit RPMs in Fedora Atomic 22
17:26:31 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/105
17:26:49 <dustymabe> jbrooks: here?
17:26:58 <dustymabe> were there any parts of this missing now?
17:27:02 <scollier> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125
17:27:19 <jbrooks> dustymabe, I never wrote about doing this in kickstart, just cloud-init
17:27:27 <dustymabe> ahh ok
17:27:36 <scollier> dustymabe, just an update on the cockpit container, will be removing it from fedora dockerfiles as stefw is maintaining his own build on the docker registry
17:27:46 <scollier> and we are already out of date.
17:27:49 <dustymabe> scollier: ok
17:28:08 <dustymabe> is the one he is maintaining under projectatomic namespace?
17:28:27 <jbrooks> OK, so, we'll need to update for that
17:28:28 <dustymabe> a link might be useful
17:28:56 <scollier> dustymabe, getting it
17:29:36 <scollier> #link https://hub.docker.com/r/cockpit/ws/
17:29:40 <scollier> dustymabe, ^
17:30:09 <dustymabe> scollier: under the cockpit toplevel
17:30:12 <dustymabe> interesting
17:30:14 <dustymabe> ok
17:30:53 <dustymabe> jbrooks: are you planning to do the baremetal blog post? or is that something we don't consider as important for some reason?
17:31:38 <jbrooks> dustymabe, I don't really use kickstart much, myself, I've seen other bare metal approaches just use cloud-init as well
17:32:15 <jbrooks> I got a little stopped up figuring out how to stick a arbitrary text file onto a host w/ kickstart
17:32:25 <dustymabe> ok.. well I guess we need to figure out how imporant that use case is
17:32:28 <jbrooks> as the service file in my howto is
17:32:39 <dustymabe> jbrooks: that should be easy
17:32:52 <dustymabe> come to me if you get tripped up
17:32:55 <dustymabe> ok next topic
17:33:06 <dustymabe> #topic PRD Discussion
17:33:15 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/107
17:33:32 <roshi> I think for this we're just waiting on the i386 stuff
17:33:44 <dustymabe> which was number80
17:33:49 <dustymabe> and he has an action on it
17:33:59 <dustymabe> ok.. if no one has anything else then we will move on
17:34:26 <dustymabe> #topic Text for cloud product on getfedora.org and marketing in general
17:34:31 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/108
17:34:58 <dustymabe> adimania made a proposal on the list for this
17:35:25 <dustymabe> he received some +1's and I think the marketing folks saw it as well
17:35:36 <dustymabe> adimania: do you mind updating the ticket with the final text?
17:35:49 <adimania> I will do that
17:36:07 <dustymabe> you can ask if there is anything else too. If not then we can close the ticket next week
17:36:11 <dustymabe> ok. next topic
17:36:22 <dustymabe> #topic Fedora Cloud FAD (late 2015/early 2016)
17:36:29 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/115
17:36:34 <dustymabe> This is me.. no updates right now
17:36:56 <dustymabe> any comments before I move to next topic?
17:37:12 * roshi has nothing
17:37:24 <dustymabe> #topic Fedora Vagrant Boxes in Atlas
17:37:31 <dustymabe> https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/116
17:37:38 <roshi> wondering about the scheduling to see if it'll work for me (the fad, I mean)
17:38:02 <dustymabe> roshi.. we will work on trying to find a date that works
17:38:06 <dustymabe> so for this topic
17:38:13 <dustymabe> so we haven't yet put the images up in atlas yet
17:38:27 <dustymabe> one thing I notice is that our vagrant F22 images are a bit busted
17:38:41 <dustymabe> see https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/109
17:38:54 <dustymabe> so people have to manually extend the disk
17:39:10 <dustymabe> should we wait til f23 and start uploading images then?
17:39:15 <dustymabe> jbrooks ^^
17:39:40 <jbrooks> dustymabe, I don't know about the base cloud ones
17:39:46 <jbrooks> The atomic images work
17:39:56 <dustymabe> jbrooks: well the base cloud images work too
17:40:08 <jbrooks> I'm not sure about the image extending, I should test that
17:40:09 <dustymabe> they just have much less in the root filesystem than they should
17:40:25 <jbrooks> I typically add a disk to extend my docker pool
17:40:28 <dustymabe> jbrooks: image extending in atomic you mean?
17:40:55 <jbrooks> Yes
17:40:59 <dustymabe> ahh ok
17:41:19 <jbrooks> It's nice, docswise, to have images in here
17:41:21 <dustymabe> yeah. we can add the f22 image but I think there should be some warnings for people if we do that
17:41:33 <jbrooks> The f22 image needs a lot of updates, though
17:41:49 <dustymabe> jbrooks: yeah. that's why I think f23 might be a good time to start uploading them
17:41:51 <dustymabe> thoughts?
17:42:06 <jbrooks> The two week test images contain released updates
17:42:27 <dustymabe> those are atomic images
17:42:31 <dustymabe> right?
17:42:47 <jbrooks> Yeah, right, my focus is too narrow
17:43:03 <dustymabe> :)
17:43:08 <dustymabe> f23 will be here before you know it
17:43:21 <dustymabe> i just want to have all the pieces in place and do this release "right"
17:43:33 <dustymabe> rather than trying to spend time getting old stuff working right
17:43:41 <dustymabe> sound reasonable?
17:44:03 <jbrooks> I guess, if all the variants must move forward together
17:44:04 <dustymabe> that means we can concentrate more time on testing the f23 stuff and make sure we don't have any release day issues
17:44:47 <dustymabe> ok cool. this will stay open for discussion but that's what we will leave it at for now
17:44:52 <dustymabe> I'll update the ticket
17:45:03 <dustymabe> ok
17:45:10 <dustymabe> #topic Open Floor
17:45:33 <kushal> dustymabe, submitted patches to fix the lang issue in the base image
17:45:41 <kushal> it has been tested locally and then pushed.
17:46:07 <dustymabe> kushal: yep
17:46:15 <dustymabe> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1261249
17:46:20 <dustymabe> that was the bug I created
17:46:36 <dustymabe> this was the real bug that we were experiencing
17:46:48 <dustymabe> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1262040
17:46:59 <dustymabe> so we worked around it with a patch
17:47:13 <dustymabe> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/spin-kickstarts.git/commit/?h=f23&id=93793acd48735b021a5551790d55c1f225aec5d8
17:47:28 <dustymabe> anybody else with anything for open floor?
17:47:29 <kushal> dustymabe, also  submitted the idea to fix the vagrant base image
17:47:43 <dustymabe> kushal :)
17:47:54 <kushal> tunir now can test both Virtualbox and libvirt based vagrant images.
17:48:03 <kushal> based on the setup of course.
17:48:21 <kushal> http://tunir.readthedocs.org/en/latest/vagrant.html
17:48:42 <dustymabe> kushal: nice
17:48:56 <dustymabe> did you get nested virt to work so you can test vbox and libvirt on the same machine?
17:49:05 <kushal> Next week I will on leave for few days.
17:49:12 <kushal> dustymabe, Nope never worked.
17:49:46 <kushal> dustymabe, <EOF> here.
17:50:03 <dustymabe> ahh
17:50:12 <dustymabe> ok so I have a big one that I almost forgot
17:50:30 <dustymabe> http://www.projectatomic.io/blog/2015/09/combined-fedora-centos-atomic-test-day-next-week/
17:50:44 <dustymabe> so we are going to do a combined test day next week
17:50:52 <dustymabe> for atomic with Fedora and CentOS
17:50:55 <kushal> yay :)
17:51:10 <kushal> dustymabe, but we need a working image for that :)
17:51:22 <dustymabe> kushal: we are working on getting one
17:51:25 <kushal> :)
17:51:31 <kushal> dustymabe, I know, just saying :)
17:51:38 <dustymabe> kushal: what days are you out?
17:51:40 <dustymabe> next week?
17:52:01 <dustymabe> roshi: FYI test day.. can you put it in the test days calendar for us?
17:52:07 <kushal> dustymabe, 24-25
17:52:18 <kushal> dustymabe, and then again from 2nd to 5th
17:52:36 <dustymabe> kushal: cool
17:52:40 <dustymabe> so 22nd you should be here
17:52:46 <roshi> yeah, I can do that
17:52:50 <kushal> Yes
17:52:56 <roshi> which day is that again?
17:53:01 <dustymabe> roshi: tuesday
17:53:06 <roshi> ok, sure
17:53:11 <dustymabe> thanks!
17:53:31 <dustymabe> so my thoughts are that we (fedora) will give out own images as well as centos images a spin
17:53:39 <dustymabe> and see what works and what doesn't
17:53:48 <dustymabe> I also want to make a wiki page
17:54:01 <dustymabe> where we can note the differences between Fedora Atomic and CentOS atomic
17:54:32 <dustymabe> that insight will be good to have and we can make changes in the future if we want to based off that information
17:54:52 <dustymabe> ok cool.
17:54:55 <dustymabe> that's all from me
17:55:13 <kushal> dustymabe, you can set the fuse in 2 minutes :)
17:55:16 <kushal> or in 1
17:57:31 <roshi> yeah, makes sense to me
17:57:35 <roshi> should be a good day
17:57:43 <dustymabe> sets fuse
17:57:50 <dustymabe> 3
17:57:54 <dustymabe> ..
17:57:58 <dustymabe> ..2
17:58:00 <roshi> good job dustymabe - thanks for running :)
17:58:02 <dustymabe> ...
17:58:05 <dustymabe> ...1
17:58:08 <dustymabe> #endmeeting