f16_beta_go_no-go_meeting
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#fedora-meeting-1: F16 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting

Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:02:12 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Gathering Bodies and Minds (rbergeron, 21:02:28)
  2. Why are we here? (rbergeron, 21:03:53)
    1. The purpose is to decide whether the *beta* release criteria hav ebeen met. (rbergeron, 21:04:34)
    2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 21:05:13)

  3. Remaining Blocker Bugs (rbergeron, 21:06:02)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 21:06:14)
    2. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (adamw, 21:07:20)
    3. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw, 21:07:32)
    4. Big outstanding bugs are 738803, 737731, 738964. (rbergeron, 21:07:59)
    5. we have fixes for 738803, 738964, but landed recently and we dont' have a compose with them yet. (rbergeron, 21:09:55)

  4. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 (adamw, 21:11:52)
    1. Unable to make system bootable due to bootloader choice (tflink, 21:12:14)
    2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 (tflink, 21:12:20)
    3. AGREED: - 738964 - AcceptedBlocker - This can cause lots of problems with existing disks and installations. The fix needs quite a bit of testing by nature (tflink, 21:19:12)

  5. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (adamw, 21:19:27)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (tflink, 21:20:21)
    2. SELinux denial(s) prevent(s) gnome-shell from starting on F16 Beta RC1 (tflink, 21:20:30)

  6. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw, 21:22:25)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (tflink, 21:24:17)
    2. Bootloader is left in F15 configuration when preupgrading to F16 (tflink, 21:24:26)

  7. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735866 (adamw, 21:26:41)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735866 (tflink, 21:27:25)
    2. boot hangs with udevadm settle - timeout of 120 seconds (tflink, 21:27:34)
    3. will make final call on 735866 staying as blocker or not on friday (rbergeron, 21:37:27)

  8. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737774 (adamw, 21:38:10)
    1. AGREED: 737774 is a blocker (adamw, 21:41:05)

  9. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739258 (adamw, 21:41:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739258 (tflink, 21:41:27)
    2. Graphical firstboot runs, even if /etc/sysconfig/firstboot has RUN_FIRSTBOOT=NO (tflink, 21:41:38)
    3. AGREED: 739258: jsmith is sure about this one but no-one else can reproduce, ask jsmith to look into it more closely and re-evaluate on friday (adamw, 21:49:16)

  10. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739345 (adamw, 21:49:51)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739345 (tflink, 21:50:08)
    2. pylorax throws an exception when used with fedora-logos-16.0.2 (tflink, 21:50:19)
    3. AGREED: 739345 is a blocker as it can make it impossible to generate images (adamw, 21:55:48)

  11. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739910 (adamw, 21:56:14)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739910 (tflink, 21:56:28)
    2. gnome-packagekit fails when trying to update - The package id's '' are not valid (tflink, 21:56:46)
    3. AGREED: 739910 is not a blocker or nth as the affected gnome-packagekit is not in the beta frozen package set (adamw, 22:01:53)

  12. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739253 (adamw, 22:02:19)
    1. AGREED: 739253 is a blocker per criterion "All release-blocking desktops' offered mechanisms (if any) for shutting down, logging out and rebooting must work" (adamw, 22:07:37)

  13. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672023 (adamw, 22:07:48)
    1. ACTION: adamw to follow up on 739253 with halfline (adamw, 22:07:58)
    2. AGREED: 672023 does not hit any criteria, but it would be good to avoid getting crash reports from the live image with no trace: rejectedblocker, acceptednth (adamw, 22:12:56)

  14. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731549 (adamw, 22:13:34)
    1. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/i18n (nirik, 22:16:57)
    2. ACTION: adamw and dlehman to co-ordinate fix for 731549 with i18n team (adamw, 22:18:22)

  15. Go/No Go (rbergeron, 22:21:30)
    1. qa votes no, outstanding unresolved blockers in the current candidate build. (rbergeron, 22:22:45)
    2. jsmith, rbergeron also vote no-go. (rbergeron, 22:22:51)
    3. AGREED: We are a no-go for Beta. (rbergeron, 22:23:27)
    4. We will regroup next Wednesday, same time, for another go/no-go, as well as having another blocker meeting Friday. (rbergeron, 22:23:47)
    5. Release readiness meeting will happen tomorrow as planned. (rbergeron, 22:24:16)
    6. ACTION: rbergeron to send out mail, notify, update the schedule. (rbergeron, 22:24:32)


Meeting ended at 22:26:35 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. adamw to follow up on 739253 with halfline
  2. adamw and dlehman to co-ordinate fix for 731549 with i18n team
  3. rbergeron to send out mail, notify, update the schedule.


Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to follow up on 739253 with halfline
    2. adamw and dlehman to co-ordinate fix for 731549 with i18n team
  2. rbergeron
    1. rbergeron to send out mail, notify, update the schedule.


People present (lines said)

  1. adamw (179)
  2. rbergeron (88)
  3. tflink (57)
  4. jsmith (46)
  5. nirik (34)
  6. zodbot (7)
  7. dgilmore (4)
  8. smooge (1)
  9. satellit_ (1)
  10. athmane (1)


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