17:02:21 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting Fedora Join 2018-11-13
17:02:21 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Nov 13 17:02:21 2018 UTC.
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17:02:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_join_2018-11-13'
17:02:26 <FranciscoD> #meetingname fedora-join
17:02:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-join'
17:02:39 <FranciscoD> #chair bt0 dhanesh95 x3mboy hhlp
17:02:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 dhanesh95 hhlp x3mboy
17:02:46 <FranciscoD> Folks on telegram, sorry, can't chair you
17:02:52 <FranciscoD> #info Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Join/Next_Meeting
17:02:57 <FranciscoD> #topic Roll call
17:03:21 <FranciscoD> #info ankursinha: packager, join, classrooms, misc (GMT)
17:03:25 <hhlp> .fas hhlp
17:03:25 <zodbot> hhlp: hhlp 'Héctor H. Louzao P.' <louzaoh@gmail.com>
17:03:31 <hhlp> o/
17:03:36 <bt0> .fas bt0dotninja
17:03:37 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
17:04:12 <bt0> #info Alberto Rodriguez S;UTC-6; CommOps , Join and more
17:04:43 <FranciscoD> We'll wait a minute and move to the next item
17:06:20 <FranciscoD> #topic New member introductions
17:06:35 <FranciscoD> #info If there are any folks who are new here, please use this time to introduce yourselves to the group :)
17:07:22 * FranciscoD waits a few minutes
17:07:30 <hhlp> I'm @hhlp and I'm new here this is my first meeting in the join group I'm very active ni askfedora
17:08:01 <FranciscoD> hello hhlp !
17:08:05 <bt0> hhlp++ thanks for you work in the ask migration tickets
17:08:05 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for hhlp changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:08:11 <FranciscoD> We know you quite well already :)
17:08:14 <FranciscoD> hhlp++
17:08:22 <hhlp> grreting , you're welcome
17:08:58 <FranciscoD> #topic Community announcements
17:09:09 <FranciscoD> #info Please share any community announcements here
17:09:42 <FranciscoD> #info https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/TF2INLB6IBZP5JWAQJ6L7FEE6TNPIUWT/ -> Bodhi updates are now automated
17:10:06 <FranciscoD> #info FPgM's report: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fpgm-report-2018-45/
17:10:09 <bt0> #info Nominations for the Fedora 29 election cycle open on Wednesday 14 November
17:10:15 <FranciscoD> Ooo!
17:10:16 <hellbanger[m]> .fasinfo hellbangerkarna
17:10:18 <zodbot> hellbanger[m]: User: hellbangerkarna, Name: None, email: akarshan.biswas@hotmail.com, Creation: 2018-02-18, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
17:10:21 <zodbot> hellbanger[m]: Approved Groups: fedora-join cla_done cla_fpca
17:10:22 <FranciscoD> bt0: what bodies are we voting for this time?
17:10:26 <FranciscoD> all of them?
17:10:38 <hellbanger[m]> Sorry I'm late.
17:11:03 <bt0> I'm only aware of mindshare :(
17:11:18 <bt0> (because i see the tickets)
17:12:59 <bt0> hi hellbanger[m]
17:13:25 <hellbanger[m]> bt0:  Hello o/
17:13:31 <FranciscoD> ah, I'm sure there will be announcements soon
17:13:45 <hellbanger[m]> FranciscoD:  Did you saw miabbott's reply on the ticket?
17:14:47 <FranciscoD> Yep
17:14:52 <FranciscoD> We'll get to the tickets in a bit
17:14:59 <FranciscoD> No more announcements? Next topic?
17:15:18 <hellbanger[m]> Sure
17:15:20 <FranciscoD> #topic Pagure tickets marked for discussion this week (tag:next-meeting)
17:15:29 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next-meeting
17:16:13 <FranciscoD> #info  96 Proposal: Join Office hours? https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/96
17:16:27 <FranciscoD> #info Please add your office hours to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Join/OfficeHours
17:17:15 <FranciscoD> The ticket can be closed---it's set up. hellbanger[m] hhlp x3mboy @alciregi: please add your office hours there when you have a few minutes to spare
17:17:29 <FranciscoD> Should I close the ticket? +1/-1 please?
17:17:30 <FranciscoD> +1
17:17:34 <bt0> +1
17:17:44 <hhlp> +1
17:18:04 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Wait please
17:18:16 <FranciscoD> sure, waiting. :)
17:18:34 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> "Is it for us to get together and work?
17:18:34 <fedjoin-tg> Or is it for us to be available for newbies to speak to?"
17:18:51 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> The second, right?
17:19:21 * hellbanger[m] is trying to add his office hours.
17:19:32 <FranciscoD> The second one, yes
17:19:47 <FranciscoD> you'll have to do it one by one---the wiki wont let many of us edit it at once :)
17:19:47 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Ok
17:20:46 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> And every day or a day a week like council or fpgm?
17:21:07 <FranciscoD> for the moment, it's what times you are usually available on a daily basis
17:21:21 <FranciscoD> since, newbies should be able to pop in whenever
17:21:22 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Ok
17:21:37 <FranciscoD> if they have to come in at a particular time, it'll discourage them---or make them too lazy
17:21:49 <hellbanger[m]> The times are in UTC. That means I have to minus 5 and a half hours
17:22:13 <FranciscoD> there's a link on the top for you to calculate your localtime
17:22:43 <FranciscoD> Should I close it then, @alciregi? +1/-1?
17:22:57 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> +1 sure
17:23:31 <FranciscoD> #agreed close #96 (+4/-0)
17:23:47 <fm-join> pagure.issue.edit -- ankursinha edited the close_status and status fields of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#96 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/96
17:23:48 <fm-join> pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#96: "Proposal: Join Office hours?" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/96#comment-540792
17:24:02 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/99: Publicise the stats tool kit
17:24:04 <bt0> cool
17:24:09 <FranciscoD> I think this is a WIP---skip?
17:24:23 <bt0> yes
17:24:34 <FranciscoD> #info skip discussing 99
17:24:45 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/100: Fedora classroom templates
17:24:58 <FranciscoD> Also a WIP---I'll have them done this week when I write my post for LaTeX101
17:25:06 <FranciscoD> #info 100 WIP: skip
17:25:46 <FranciscoD> Doing tasks from last week now, and then we can check on the classroom sessions
17:25:49 <bt0> maybe all the magazine post ticktes will be solved with the templates
17:25:50 <FranciscoD> #topic Tasks from past week
17:26:06 <FranciscoD> bt0: yes, if not, it'll make them *much* easier
17:26:16 <FranciscoD> we'll still have to poke the instructors to send us summaries and all that
17:26:43 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD ask the design/badges team if someone could please take the badges session: DONE (we have an instructor!)
17:26:56 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD ask the L10N folks if someone can please take a L10N session: DONE (we have an instructor!)
17:27:11 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD ask the design team if someone could please take the badges session: NA (got instructor from badges team)
17:27:28 <FranciscoD> #info bt0 check if dwalsh is the same one as in https://stopdisablingselinux.com/ and if they are, request them to take the selinux session: DONE, yes it is the same person and they've suggested someone for selinux
17:28:00 <FranciscoD> #info hellbanger Request sanja to take the silverblue session: DONE: miabbot will probably instruct the session
17:28:10 <FranciscoD> #info hellbanger bt0 x3mboy_ alciregi dhanesh95 RNM jhoanir find instructors for Silverblue, L10N, Fedora badges, Selinux: DONE
17:28:21 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD make a wiki table to let join team members mark what hours they can monitor the channel: DONE: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Join/OfficeHours
17:28:37 <FranciscoD> #info bt0 FranciscoD go through stats tools kit and show them the needed love: WIP
17:28:47 <hellbanger[m]> I have added my office hours to the wiki page.
17:28:53 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD Get #100 done: WIP: will be done this week!
17:29:02 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD send out logs: DONE
17:29:06 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send out logs
17:29:15 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD update next_meeting page: DONE
17:29:17 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update next_meeting page
17:29:24 <FranciscoD> nice---we got almost everything done!
17:29:29 <FranciscoD> join-sig++!
17:29:35 <bt0> awesome
17:29:55 <FranciscoD> #topic Status check on F29 classroom sessions
17:30:00 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/94: Tracker ticket
17:30:02 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Great
17:30:45 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/81: Fedora Badges
17:31:14 <FranciscoD> #info riecatnor has volunteered to instruct this session
17:31:46 <FranciscoD> #info We need a summary for the magazine post + a date/time for the session: https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/113 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/114
17:31:59 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Badges for instructors? Or for attendees as well?
17:32:19 <FranciscoD> @alciregi: a session teaching people how to make new badges! :D
17:32:20 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> And a different badge for each classroom?
17:32:28 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Aaaah ok
17:32:40 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> :-)
17:32:51 <FranciscoD> but that reminds me: bt0 have we given asamalik a badge for his session yet?
17:33:03 <bt0> right
17:34:51 <FranciscoD> do we give them a badge for every session, or do they get a new one when they've done 5/10 and so on?
17:35:22 <bt0> 1 5 10
17:35:24 <hhlp> 5/10
17:35:53 <FranciscoD> ah, so we keep a track of how many theyve done then?
17:35:54 <bt0> but actually we only have the the sensei badge
17:35:57 <FranciscoD> that's a bit tedious :(
17:36:08 <bt0> the new badges are not pushed yet
17:36:12 <FranciscoD> yeh, but a series in the sensei badge, no?
17:36:15 <FranciscoD> ah, ok
17:36:30 <bt0> sensei will be retired in favor of the new
17:36:30 <FranciscoD> let's keep this in mind---we'll check each time we have sessions
17:36:35 <FranciscoD> not critical, but nice to have
17:36:59 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/64: containers 101 with podman
17:37:00 <bt0> yes
17:37:47 <FranciscoD> #info alezzandro is instructing, bt0 is managing #64: need magazine post and time/date: https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/102 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/103
17:38:21 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD is managing Badges classroom session
17:39:06 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/97: selinux 101
17:39:40 <FranciscoD> #info needs an instructor, FranciscoD emaild lvrabec, still waiting for reply
17:39:47 <FranciscoD> #undo
17:39:47 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by FranciscoD at 17:39:40 : needs an instructor, FranciscoD emaild lvrabec, still waiting for reply
17:39:53 <FranciscoD> #info selinux classroom session needs an instructor, FranciscoD emaild lvrabec, still waiting for reply
17:40:09 <FranciscoD> if you do find anyone that knows selinux, please ask them if they can take the session
17:40:28 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/69: LaTeX 101
17:40:56 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD is managing and instructing LaTeX 101: will have magazine post done this week but will wait to pick a slot until other instructors have picked theirs
17:41:05 <FranciscoD> just so they have whatever choices we can offer them
17:41:15 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/77: VIM 102
17:41:38 <FranciscoD> #info VIM 102 may be instructed by x3mboy, pinged him on ticket. Otherwise it needs an instructor
17:41:56 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/78: silverblue 101
17:42:19 <FranciscoD> #info miabbot may instruct silveblue 101, hellbanger[m] is managing it, needs confirmation and then magazine post + date/time
17:42:30 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/67: IRC 101
17:42:44 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD is hoping dhanesh95 would instruct this one ;)
17:42:52 <FranciscoD> Have I covered them all?
17:43:09 <hellbanger[m]> l10n
17:43:10 <bt0> yes, i think
17:43:14 <hhlp> yep
17:43:18 <bt0> :(
17:43:23 <FranciscoD> ah,
17:43:28 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/80: L10N 101
17:44:10 <FranciscoD> #info silvia (fas: lailah) is instructing L10N, FranciscoD  is managing it. Needs magazine post + time/date
17:44:15 <FranciscoD> So, summary:
17:44:58 <FranciscoD> #info Sessions with confirmed instructors: L10N, Badges, Containers 101 and podman, LaTeX 101 (4/8)
17:45:08 <FranciscoD> #undo
17:45:08 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by FranciscoD at 17:44:58 : Sessions with confirmed instructors: L10N, Badges, Containers 101 and podman, LaTeX 101 (4/8)
17:45:22 <FranciscoD> #info Sessions with confirmed instructors: L10N, Badges, Containers 101 and podman, LaTeX 101 (4/8): these need dates + magazine summaries + bluejeans rooms
17:46:01 <FranciscoD> #info Sessions needing instructors or waiting confirmation: selinux, silverblue, vim102, irc 101 (4/8)
17:46:21 <FranciscoD> #info possible extra session: Buildah (Dan said he may be able to take this)
17:46:36 <FranciscoD> Should we add buildah to the list anyway---in case we dont get instructors for the other 3?
17:46:39 <FranciscoD> er.. 4?
17:47:07 <bt0> yes +1
17:47:27 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> +1
17:47:31 <bt0> a classroom from Dan will be a great hit
17:47:32 <hhlp> +1
17:47:38 <hellbanger[m]> ok +1
17:48:12 <FranciscoD> #agreed Add buildah session to F29 semester
17:48:24 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD file tickets for buildah session
17:48:35 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Dan walsh?
17:48:38 <FranciscoD> Who can manage this one? Dan's already said he can take a session
17:48:41 <bt0> Yeah
17:48:42 <FranciscoD> @alciregi: yeh
17:48:57 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Nice
17:49:02 <FranciscoD> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/help-wanted-fedora-classroom-instructors/344/15
17:49:20 <FranciscoD> @alciregi: can you manage this session? Ie. ping dan, get the summary, fix a time and all that
17:49:21 <FranciscoD> ?
17:49:32 * FranciscoD is learning how to volunteer other :P
17:49:41 <FranciscoD> *others
17:50:02 <fedjoin-tg> <alciregi> Well, I can try :-)
17:50:10 <bt0> awesome
17:50:28 <bt0> a quick info:
17:50:33 <FranciscoD> #info alciregi manage Buildah 101 session
17:50:35 <FranciscoD> ;)
17:50:53 <bt0> #info asamalik++ received the sensei badge for the docs Classroom
17:50:55 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for asamalik changed to 6 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:51:11 <FranciscoD> Yes, :D
17:51:22 <hellbanger[m]> Cool :D
17:51:23 <bt0> #link https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/sensei
17:51:38 <FranciscoD> so will he get another for modularity, or will we wait until he does 3 more sessions?
17:52:31 <hhlp> it isn't urgent we can wait
17:53:11 <FranciscoD> +1
17:53:25 <FranciscoD> OK, that's good progress
17:53:37 <FranciscoD> Everyone, please ping instructors and get the sesions moving
17:53:50 <FranciscoD> once we have dates, we can write a magazine post with the schedule
17:54:14 <FranciscoD> next week, we can do a quick status check and then we can go over the ask fedora migration tickets. What do you think hhlp ?
17:54:31 <hhlp> +1
17:54:55 <FranciscoD> #info Go over Ask Fedora migration tickets in next meeting
17:55:14 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD  add Ask Fedora migration tickets to next_meeting page
17:55:32 <FranciscoD> We're almost out of time. Let's do 5 minutes for open floor and close today?
17:55:43 <bt0> yes
17:55:52 <hellbanger[m]> yes
17:56:09 <FranciscoD> #info https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/docs/user/release_notes.html#v3-11-0 bodhi 3.11.0 beta was just deployed to staging
17:56:17 <FranciscoD> bowlofeggs just announced in -devel
17:56:21 <FranciscoD> #topic open floor
17:56:27 <FranciscoD> phew
17:56:33 <FranciscoD> that's been a long day!
17:56:39 * FranciscoD needs to go out and get some air
17:56:44 <hhlp> all done
17:56:44 <FranciscoD> and then get some sleep!
17:57:12 <fm-join> pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#80: "Possible classroom session: L10N 101" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/80#comment-540795
17:57:43 <fm-join> pagure.issue.new -- ankursinha opened a new ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#118: "L10N classroom session needs magazine post" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/118
17:58:09 <fm-join> pagure.issue.new -- ankursinha opened a new ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#119: "L10N session needs a date" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/119
17:58:13 <fm-join> pagure.issue.edit -- ankursinha edited the milestone fields of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#118 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/118
17:58:25 <fm-join> pagure.issue.dependency.added -- ankursinha added ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#118 as a dependency of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#80 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/118
17:58:26 <fm-join> pagure.issue.dependency.added -- ankursinha added ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#119 as a dependency of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#80 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/119
17:58:37 <FranciscoD> Anyone have anything else for the last two minutes? ;)
17:58:41 <hellbanger[m]> FranciscoD:  Can she get a sensei badge since it's her first time taking up role of a classroom instructor?
17:58:53 <FranciscoD> Yes, of course
17:59:00 <FranciscoD> you get the first badge for the first session
17:59:02 <hellbanger[m]> Cool
17:59:07 <FranciscoD> then the next in the series when you do 5 and so on
18:00:50 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting