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13:33:36 <jflory7> #startmeeting Pagure: Past, Present, and Future - Speaker: Pierre-Yves Chibon (pingou)
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13:33:43 <jflory7> #topic Introduction
13:33:54 <jflory7> #info Talking about Pagure, open source git forge
13:34:00 <jflory7> #topic Background
13:34:21 <jflory7> #info Fork, pull request, three repositories per project (sources, pull requests, tickets)
13:34:46 <jflory7> old_ui.png
13:35:06 <jflory7> #info New UI, new architecture, and lots of new features with recent growths
13:35:17 <jflory7> Aware of new needs and new features
13:35:29 <jflory7> Comparing old and new UIs
13:35:32 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
13:35:33 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
13:35:34 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
13:35:43 <jflory7> ryanlerch helped contribute to new UI design
13:35:50 <jflory7> And is also the person to blame if you have complaints ;)
13:36:08 <jflory7> UI makes more sense and is more intuitive because it was built with new understanding
13:36:16 <jflory7> Has impact on the life of project itself
13:36:21 <jflory7> #topic Architecture
13:36:27 <jflory7> <diagram.png>
13:36:53 <jflory7> #info Diagram on-screen of how all of Pagure architecture fits together (see slides / video feed later)
13:37:30 <jflory7> Talking to web server and relationship between web hooks server
13:37:33 <jflory7> via Redis
13:38:20 <jflory7> #info EventSource server: If two people working on ticket / PR, one is making comment, new comment magically appears on other user's page
13:38:32 <jflory7> Almost can have live discussion on the ticket
13:38:39 <jflory7> Handy for quick discussion without accidental overlap
13:39:34 <jflory7> Pagure has its own fedmsg input
13:39:56 <jflory7> #info Gitolite has always been a part of the project for managing user git repos and projects
13:39:59 <jflory7> #topic Features
13:40:03 <jflory7> #info Doc hosting / repos
13:40:11 <jflory7> Three repos per projct as mentioned earlier
13:40:34 <jflory7> Supports variety of formats from Markdown to HTML to docbook, etc.
13:40:54 <jflory7> Renders the docs and presents them all from docs.pagure.org
13:41:09 <jflory7> Link might be wrong, think an old screenshot
13:41:31 <jflory7> Pagure's documentation is written in Sphinx
13:41:34 <jflory7> Part of Pagure's source
13:41:59 <jflory7> #info To generate docs, you push source to the docs repo, view page, and updates quickly and instantly
13:42:16 <jflory7> #link https://docs.pagure.org/pagure/
13:42:55 <jflory7> #info === Watch project (Gaurav Kumar) ===
13:43:22 <jflory7> #info Watch a project, get notifications as if you had commit rights (except on priv. tickets)
13:43:29 <jflory7> When in a group, you receive notifs by default
13:43:32 <jflory7> But maybe you're in a group
13:43:34 <jflory7> And there's a lot of noise
13:43:37 <jflory7> So you can unwatch
13:43:42 <jflory7> And decrease notifications
13:43:51 <jflory7> Coming soon™ next release
13:43:55 <jflory7> #info === Roadmap ===
13:44:18 <jflory7> Looking at how we can migrate some Trac features into Pagure
13:44:31 <jflory7> #info Migrating Trac features to Pagure was a major focus, like roadmaps
13:44:36 <jflory7> Some things make sense, others are challenging
13:45:12 <jflory7> Roadmap tag can be used with milestones, tags, and other repo settings
13:45:19 <jflory7> screenshot.png
13:45:57 <jflory7> #info === Customized PR page ===
13:46:07 <jflory7> While back, letter to GitHub
13:46:25 <jflory7> From major projects asking for features to be added, users frustrated over lack of progress on needs for larger projects
13:46:36 <jflory7> We looked at the emails and thought it was interesting feedback for bringing into Pagure
13:46:44 <jflory7> You can customize the information displayed in pull requests
13:46:49 <jflory7> #info You can customize the information displayed in pull requests
13:47:22 <jflory7> #info Includes what branch and repo pull requests go into, add a note about contributing (e.g. "how to test your changes before submitting")
13:47:38 <jflory7> Clone the PR repo
13:47:42 <jflory7> Default markdown file to create
13:47:46 <jflory7> Whatever content you put there will be displayed
13:48:04 <jflory7> In this example, asking to run the test script and that code is pep8 compliant
13:48:10 <jflory7> #info === Issue templates ===
13:48:23 <jflory7> Works similar to PRs
13:48:25 <jflory7> Clone issues repo
13:48:27 <jflory7> Create template
13:48:31 <jflory7> Put default.md file in
13:48:50 <jflory7> Allows you to have different types of issues and template for user to see
13:49:00 <jflory7> Makes it easy for users to include the information you need to process quickly and easily
13:49:14 <jflory7> Different templates for different ticket types
13:49:24 <jflory7> #info Different issue templates for different ticket types
13:49:39 <jflory7> #info === Diff between x commits (Oliver Guitierrez) ===
13:50:08 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/pagure/c/5803a79..3c85bbc
13:50:24 <jflory7> Compares two hashes to compare changes between two commits
13:50:36 <jflory7> #info Q: "Can we compare against dates? e.g. Jan 1 and Mar 30?"
13:52:07 <jflory7> #info A: Currently not, only two commits. Technically possible, no reason why not. Merge commits could affect whether this is accurate or not as well, e.g. if changes were made before date, but were merged in during that timeframe
13:52:43 <jflory7> #info === Take issue (Ryan Lerch) ===
13:53:11 <jflory7> #info Before, if you wanted to take an issue, you needed to edit metadata, find your username, save metadata
13:53:28 <jflory7> #info Now, you click the button in the issue and you will auto-assign it to yourself. No refresh necessary
13:53:47 <jflory7> #info Q: "Right now, if you have page open for a long time, will it work?"
13:54:50 <jflory7> #info A: Will work because connection never closes. Problem is that some endpoints is over cross-site scripting, other concerns as well were considered too.
13:55:01 <jflory7> #info === Live completion (Eric Barbour) ===
13:55:27 <jflory7> #info Auto-completion for tagging username or IDs for tickets / PRs, e.g. @jflory7 or #17
13:55:37 <jflory7> screenshot.png
13:56:08 <jflory7> #info === README file at creation (Ryan Lerch) ===
13:56:18 <jflory7> #info Most people used to git, not a problem, but more in mind for new users
13:56:50 <jflory7> Creating README creates a commit in the repo and it will save time and steps for new users who are still learning
13:57:00 <jflory7> #info === Fake namespace ===
13:57:08 <jflory7> Looking at features from GitHub
13:57:15 <jflory7> Want to have Pagure as front-end for dist-git
13:57:19 <jflory7> #info Want to have Pagure as front-end for dist-git
13:57:38 <jflory7> Suddenly, we needed to do namespacing in Pagure
13:57:41 <jflory7> Few ways to go about that
13:57:50 <jflory7> Run x instances of Pagure for x instances of pkgdb
13:58:16 <jflory7> #info Run x instances of Pagure for x instances of pkgdb, not effective solution when you can just run one. Won't be able to search between Pagures.
13:58:43 <jflory7> #info Adding namespacing would break all previous projects and change all URLs for all projects
13:59:48 <jflory7> #info Solution? Adding one slash to the end of a project configuration
14:01:06 <jflory7> [ ... ]
14:01:15 <jflory7> Missed some of the explanation
14:02:54 <jflory7> #info === New hooks ===
14:03:14 <jflory7> #info ReadTheDoc hook: Push to PAgure, update ReadTheDocs
14:03:37 <jflory7> #info Block un-signed commits: Blocks PRs from being merged if they are unsigned with GPG
14:04:26 <jflory7> #info Block non-fastforward commits: If you want to keep the log clean, keeps merge commits out and only relevant commits (can also specify which branch to have this apply to, e.g. `master`)
14:04:32 <jflory7> #info === Better Pagure hook ===
14:05:11 <jflory7> #info Close ticket / PR via commit message (e.g. `git commit -s "close issue #10 close pull request #6"`)
14:05:42 <jflory7> #topic Future
14:05:55 <jflory7> #info === Private repository (Farhaan) ===
14:06:38 <jflory7> Configuration key to turn them on and off
14:06:47 <jflory7> Implementation still under discussion
14:06:56 <jflory7> But able to keep repos invisible to only those with commit access
14:07:02 <jflory7> Anyone else receives a 404 error
14:07:11 <jflory7> #info === CI integration (Farhaan) ===
14:07:28 <jflory7> #info Pull requests can have flags to automatically build projects on other services, e.g. Jenkins
14:07:32 <jflory7> #info Aimed for next release
14:07:43 <jflory7> Talking between Pagure and Jenkins
14:07:53 <jflory7> If certain criteria met, will trigger a build on CI server
14:08:04 <jflory7> #info === Front-end for pkgs.fp.o (Vivek Anand) ===
14:08:13 <jflory7> #link https://apps.stg.fedoraprohect.org/pagure/
14:08:26 <jflory7> #info Work in progress, but implementation is public, in staging
14:08:40 <jflory7> #info Q: "Can I do stuff with this or will it break things?"
14:09:15 <jflory7> #info A: Shouldn't break anything, but if it does, we need to look into it!
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14:09:40 <jflory7> #link https://apps.stg.fedoraproject.org/pagure/
14:09:43 <jflory7> #info Work in progress, but implementation is public, in staging
14:09:46 <jflory7> #info Q: "Can I do stuff with this or will it break things?"
14:09:48 <jflory7> #info A: Shouldn't break anything, but if it does, we need to look into it!
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14:10:19 <jflory7> #link http://pkgs.stg.fedoraproject.org/pagure/
14:10:22 <jflory7> #info Work in progress, but implementation is public, in staging
14:10:24 <jflory7> #info Q: "Can I do stuff with this or will it break things?"
14:10:26 <jflory7> #info A: Shouldn't break anything, but if it does, we need to look into it!
14:10:31 <jflory7> Link in the slide was wrong ;)
14:11:41 <jflory7> #info === Mirror sources ===
14:11:52 <jflory7> #info Designed to be made so you can move things from Pagure instance to Pagure instance
14:12:20 <jibecfed> pingou++
14:12:26 <jflory7> #info Maybe you have a private Pagure instance and want everyone to be on there, should be able to port all packages over to the other instance
14:12:43 <jflory7> #info When you push to Pagure, it will do a git push to another git server
14:12:49 <jflory7> Think of fedorahosted.org instance
14:12:51 <jflory7> If we kept it running
14:12:57 <jflory7> Could have both syncing consistently
14:13:09 <jflory7> #topic Community
14:13:33 <jflory7> #info 56 contributors, 33 contributors at 1.0, 2 GSoC students this year (Vivek Anand & Farhaan Bukhsh)
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14:13:51 <jflory7> #info 56 contributors, 33 contributors at 1.0, 2 GSoC students this year (Vivek Anand & Farhaan Bukhsh), 2 Red Hat interns (Eric Barbour and Simon)
14:14:50 <jflory7> #info Top 10 contributors: pingou, ryanlerch, farhaanbukhsh, Johan, Clement, Vivek, Farhaan, Sayan, Lubomír, puiterwijk
14:14:55 <jflory7> Some miscounts, e.g. Fargaan
14:14:58 <jflory7> * Farhaan
14:15:02 <jflory7> #info Being packaged in Devian
14:15:08 <jflory7> #info Used outside our community
14:15:17 <jflory7> #link https://git.58.io
14:15:27 <jflory7> #link https://git.pignus.computer
14:15:32 <jflory7> #info Evaluated by two start-ups
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14:16:34 <jflory7> #info Being packaged in Debian
14:16:37 <jflory7> #info Used outside our community
14:16:41 <jflory7> #link https://git.48.io
14:16:44 <jflory7> #link https://git.pignus.computer
14:16:53 <jflory7> #info Evaluated by two start-ups (and a team at RackSpace!)
14:17:36 <jflory7> #topic Questions
14:17:57 <jflory7> #info Q: "When is dist-git for Fedora going to be in prod?" - mattdm
14:19:23 <jflory7> #info A: As soon as we support it! It just reached staging, not entirely deployed
14:20:07 <jflory7> Also concern over what to do with forks
14:20:31 <jflory7> Communication between pkgdb and Pagure is big focus
14:21:03 <jflory7> #info Q: "Is it designed in a way to work around problem by packaging dist-git into pagure.io?"
14:21:07 <jflory7> Not sure if I caught all of that question
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14:21:58 <jflory7> #info Q: "Is it designed in a way to work around problem by packaging dist-git into pagure.io?" - mhroncok
14:22:09 <jflory7> #info A: Leverage pagure.io for pkg apps and relationship between fork and where it's coming from
14:22:53 <jflory7> jibecfed: Is this your question? If it is, feel free to #info, I missed the beginning
14:23:14 * jflory7 isn't sure if he's matching a username to face right ;)
14:23:59 <jflory7> Time reached
14:24:12 <jflory7> #endmeeting