14:00:04 <jwf> #startmeeting Fedora Diversity & Inclusion Team (2020-08-27)
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14:00:10 <jwf> #meetingname diversity
14:00:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity'
14:00:10 <jwf> #nick di-team
14:00:24 <jwf> #chair tatica[m] tatica riecatnor
14:00:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf riecatnor tatica tatica[m]
14:00:30 <jwf> #topic Agenda
14:00:33 <siddharthvipul> \o
14:00:35 <jwf> #info (1) Roll call / introductions
14:00:36 <jwf> #info (2) Announcements
14:00:36 <jwf> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
14:00:36 <jwf> #info (4) Tickets
14:00:36 <jwf> #info (5) Open floor
14:00:50 <jwf> #topic Roll call / introductions
14:00:53 <jwf> If this is your first time at a D&I Team meeting, please say hello! If you have any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
14:00:58 <jwf> .hello jflory7
14:00:59 <zodbot> jwf: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <jflory7@gmail.com>
14:01:34 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor[m]
14:01:35 <zodbot> riecatnor: Sorry, but you don't exist
14:01:42 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
14:01:43 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'None' <mnordin@redhat.com>
14:01:48 <siddharthvipul> .hello siddharthvipul1
14:01:49 <zodbot> siddharthvipul: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' <siddharthvipul1@gmail.com>
14:01:50 <riecatnor> I got worried for a sec lol
14:02:18 <jwf> riecatnor: lolol, that is one of zodbot's most famous replies
14:02:22 <jwf> #chair siddharthvipul
14:02:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf riecatnor siddharthvipul tatica tatica[m]
14:02:26 <jwf> Hi siddharthvipul!
14:02:43 <jwf> We will wait 2-3 more minutes before getting started and give folks a chance to say hi :)
14:02:51 <siddharthvipul> hello all :D I am in a meeting in side but since I had some action items on me from last meeting, I thought I should join
14:03:03 <jwf> Cool. Will try to avoid pinging unless necessary
14:03:27 <siddharthvipul> jwf: ah, not at all.. nothing I have to speak in! please feel free to ping whenever necessary
14:03:38 <jwf> :)
14:04:08 <jwf> siddharthvipul: The one thing I do like about text-based meetings…
14:04:13 <jwf> Hi solanch69, hi niharikashrivast!
14:05:29 <jwf> OK, we can go ahead and start :)
14:05:34 <jwf> #topic Announcements
14:05:40 <jwf> #info === "Fedora Community Outreach Revamp: Update!" ===
14:05:48 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-community-outreach-revamp-update/
14:06:22 <jwf> #info An update on latest news for the Fedora outreach revamp. There is a ticket on our agenda today related to this.
14:06:39 <tg-fed-di> 'Does anyone know why this error appears? 😢' uploaded by S​olanch96: https://i.imgur.com/dKPaiso.jpg
14:07:01 <jwf> #info === "Fedora Council August 2020 meeting" ===
14:07:05 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-council-august-2020-meeting/
14:07:25 <jwf> @solanch96: Oh it is Freenode IRC NickServ, I think.
14:07:38 <jwf> solanch69: Try now?
14:08:05 <jwf> #info Update from the Fedora Council from pre-Nest discussions. Includes a highlight feature of the Fedora D&I Team. Definitely worth a read this week!
14:08:25 <jwf> <eof>
14:08:32 <jwf> Anyone else have announcements to share?
14:08:58 <siddharthvipul> nothing here :)
14:09:18 <riecatnor> nada
14:09:25 <jwf> Cool, moving on :)
14:09:46 <jwf> solanch69: Looks like something broke on Freenode's side with Webchat. It used to not require signing in with NickServ. But I think it is a requirement now. I will follow up with IRC staff later
14:10:07 <jwf> #action jwf  Ping Freenode staff about webchat clients getting auto-voice in a channel
14:10:20 <jwf> #topic Action items from last meeting
14:10:40 <jwf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/diversity/diversity.2020-08-13-14.00.html
14:10:58 <jwf> #info [COMPLETE] jwf Open new ticket about D&I Team docs hack sessions once or twice a month (due: 2020-08-17)
14:11:16 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/150
14:11:30 <jwf> #info [COMPLETE] siddharthvipul to request new badges for Virtual FWD 2020
14:11:44 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/770
14:11:45 <tg-fed-di> <S​olanch96> 👍
14:11:53 <jwf> siddharthvipul ashlyna: Work together on making a new poll to send out about which weekend in September for the global FWD event
14:12:10 <jwf> I don't see Ashley here. siddharthvipul, could you give a short update?
14:12:43 <siddharthvipul> so we did work on the hackmd (questions) and I am waiting for a go from y'all. Once I have that, I can convert it in to a limesurvey and share it with you ( jwf and riecatnor ) to share it with wider community
14:13:13 <siddharthvipul> I already have a +1 from riecatnor to use limesurvey (got that in last diversity meeting)
14:13:39 <jwf> OK, great. Let's save the last 10 minutes for this during open floor.
14:13:52 <riecatnor> siddharthvipul, I need to review the finalized questions as well :)
14:14:00 <siddharthvipul> riecatnor: yes yes yes
14:14:06 <jwf> #info [IN PROGRESS, NEEDS D&I TEAM] siddharthvipul ashlyna: Work together on making a new poll to send out about which weekend in September for the global FWD event
14:14:15 <jwf> #info [COMPLETE] jwf Reach out to GNOME D&I folks and co-conspire to schedule a meeting date/time via WhenIsGood
14:14:32 <jwf> #action jwf Ping GNOMEies in their Rocket.chat to confirm the email / schedule the call
14:14:47 <jwf> <eof>
14:14:58 <jwf> It was a good past week! :)
14:15:01 <jwf> OK, moving on.
14:15:08 <jwf> (err, two weeks)
14:15:11 <jwf> #topic Tickets
14:15:14 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issues?status=Open&priority=20
14:15:42 <jwf> Let's start with the biggest topic
14:15:55 <jwf> #topic Ticket #153: " Fedora Ambassadors Revamp 2020: Community Survey"
14:16:05 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/153
14:16:41 <jwf> So, I think the ask in this ticket is for a review by the D&I Team on the questions we want to ask people, re: Ambassadors/Advocates.
14:16:59 <jwf> Sort of a user experience / interview type of task?
14:17:22 <meskarune> oh its a meeting
14:17:39 <jwf> @sumantro93 riecatnor Anything you want to introduce here to the group?
14:17:53 <riecatnor> My vision for this is that D&I develops the survey
14:18:01 <jwf> Hi meskarune! Have time to stick around for a bit? We are here for the next 40 minutes :)
14:18:09 <riecatnor> The questions in the ticket are ones I wrote on the fly
14:19:11 <jwf> Cool. So I think we can find a mix of experienced and new contributors to brainstorm ideas on questions. A mix of both perspectives will be good
14:19:21 <meskarune> yeah I think so :D
14:19:27 <jwf> meskarune: Yay :D
14:19:30 <jwf> #chair meskarune
14:19:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: jwf meskarune riecatnor siddharthvipul tatica tatica[m]
14:20:01 <riecatnor> def!
14:20:11 <misc> meskarune: would be easier to see if is a meeting if there was donuts (or less sugary options for folks who can't have them) on display :p
14:20:26 <riecatnor> fruit! and coffee
14:20:32 * jwf goes to check mailing list archive
14:20:52 <misc> riecatnor: donut is a fruit, coming from a Donkin tree :p
14:21:10 <meskarune> ugh I miss dunkin doughnuts iced coffee
14:21:40 <jwf> riecatnor or @sumantro93, could one of you please post to the D&I Team mailing list with a request for question review?
14:21:56 <jwf> I think there are folks who will be interested in this specifically, but they are not here at the moment. Time zones are hard :D
14:22:08 * jwf sips green tea
14:22:42 <riecatnor> I will jot that down, not sure if Sumantro is here currently
14:22:45 <jwf> riecatnor @sumantro93: Or I can reply that in the ticket too, to see if Mariana has bandwidth too
14:22:57 <jwf> riecatnor: Want me to ping in the ticket and we will follow up there?
14:23:08 <riecatnor> yes, that would be great
14:23:30 <jwf> Cool. Writing a quick note for me, and then we can move on the next ticket. That is unless there is anything else to cover on this one
14:23:38 <jwf> It is a big topic.
14:24:47 <jwf> OK, I have my note :)
14:24:53 <riecatnor> Nothing to add now, except it might be useful for us to have a hack session on that at some point
14:25:06 <meskarune> Has anyone posted the ticket to join/ambassadors, etc to get their input on questions?
14:25:11 <jwf> That will be fun :)
14:25:41 <riecatnor> meskarune, not as of yet
14:25:46 <jwf> meskarune: That is a great idea too. Not sure if @sumantro93 or @marianaballa are planning to do this?
14:25:48 <jwf> Ah, nvm
14:26:06 <meskarune> Maybe link to their irc and mailing lists or whatever might be useful :)
14:26:09 <jwf> #idea Outreach to Ambassadors/Join mailing lists is a good idea for feedback too!
14:26:11 <riecatnor> can you add that to your note, jwf?
14:26:21 <jwf> riecatnor: Now it's in ours ^^ :)
14:26:24 <jwf> But will add to ticket too
14:26:47 <jwf> OK!
14:26:48 <riecatnor> thanks :)
14:26:52 <jwf> Moving on to the next ticket, going once…
14:27:02 <jwf> Going twice…
14:27:12 <jwf> And thrice.
14:27:55 <jwf> #topic Ticket #148: "FWD 2020: Expanding to Fedora + GNOME Women's Day"
14:28:01 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/148
14:28:23 <jwf> So, only a short update on my side. But we can also discuss FWD generally after
14:29:32 <jwf> #info jwf reached out to Molly de Blanc and Regina Nkemchor Adejo at GNOME to set up a 1 hour chat. Folks active in FWD planning so far were CC'd to the email. jwf is actioned to drop a quick direct message to GNOMEies later to confirm the email and date/time.
14:29:42 <jwf> That's all from me.
14:29:52 <jwf> I did see Ashlyn's post to the mailing list about our FWD survey questions.
14:30:15 <jwf> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/diversity@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4EV7LQK2SNQTQ37GQYOHLSHCFZRT7JVW/
14:30:37 <jwf> #link https://hackmd.io/ovVujqvaS5WnYcGWx9BNYQ
14:31:36 <jwf> I think we can take a group action item to follow up on the survey questions by the next meeting.
14:31:49 * riecatnor looking at survey draft
14:32:36 * jwf is looking to see if we have (or should have) a ticket for FWD survey questions (it is a good topic on its own)
14:32:51 <riecatnor> I think we can add a question about topics
14:33:28 <jwf> I think we need a new ticket for this. I will open one to track it
14:33:41 <jwf> riecatnor: Can I action you to drop your feedback in the forthcoming ticket about topics?
14:33:47 <riecatnor> absolutely
14:34:01 <jwf> #action jwf Open new ticket about FWD survey questions based on Ashlyn's mailing list post
14:34:19 <jwf> #action riecatnor Follow up in forthcoming FWD survey ticket with idea about question for topics
14:34:53 <jwf> #action di-team Review Ashlyn's question draft (https://hackmd.io/ovVujqvaS5WnYcGWx9BNYQ) and share feedback in forthcoming ticket by next meeting in September
14:34:59 <jwf> Cool!
14:35:10 <jwf> So, that is all I have for right now…
14:35:19 <jwf> I think we can address RFP at the next meeting?
14:35:22 <jwf> Or should we discuss now?
14:35:33 <jwf> (only other major topic for this meeting is a review of our current docs tickets)
14:35:43 <meskarune> So the ticket #148 FWD 2020: Expanding to Fedora + GNOME Women's Day doesn't mention survey nor how gnome and fedora will primarity collaborate :P
14:35:56 <meskarune> Like are you doing mailing lists or meetings or how are things being organized?
14:36:26 <jwf> meskarune: Hahah yes, very true. :D We have an email thread with the GNOME folks but it is not on a public list. Let me share some more details from that email
14:36:27 <meskarune> Is everything primarily organized at https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/fedora-womens-day/ ?
14:36:54 <meskarune> ah I see
14:37:16 <jwf> I dropped them a note on Aug 24 to have a call at Tuesday, September 1st at 13:00 UTC
14:37:32 <jwf> Where we would have a chance to talk about the collaboration, figure out the RFP, etc.
14:37:47 <jwf> Hahah right, so actually it does make sense to hold on the RFP discussion until next meeting.
14:37:50 <meskarune> Maybe that can be added to a calendar somewhere :)
14:38:04 <jwf> meskarune: Great idea.
14:38:19 <jwf> Does someone who was CC'd on the email have free time to add it to the D&I Team Fedocal?
14:38:31 <jwf> Of course I can do it if not… but I try to be fair in distributing #action's :D
14:39:28 <jwf> #action jwf Add Fedora + GNOME chat to the D&I Team Fedocal with details about our meeting agenda
14:39:43 <jwf> meskarune++ for that idea
14:39:54 <jwf> OK, I have no other topics for FWD right now.
14:39:58 <jwf> Anyone else want to add anything?
14:40:07 <jwf> Or if you are hanging out and have a FWD-related question.
14:40:11 <jwf> Now is a good time to ask too :)
14:40:25 <jwf> Going once…
14:40:35 <jwf> Going twice…
14:40:45 <jwf> Going thrice.
14:41:04 <jwf> OK, queuing last major topic for the meeting:
14:41:37 <jwf> #topic Tickets #116, 142, 143: various docs tickets
14:41:44 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/116
14:41:54 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/142
14:42:00 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/143
14:42:17 <jwf> So, these are three tickets that are great first tickets for newcomers.
14:42:29 <jwf> It will help you learn how to edit and contribute to the Fedora D&I Team documentation. :)
14:42:35 <jwf> I think we might have a video tutorial soon…
14:42:51 <jwf> riecatnor siddharthvipul: Do either of you know off-hand the immediate status of Flock videos? Are they all online?
14:42:59 <riecatnor> jwf, some are online
14:43:06 * jwf hasn't seen anything announced, or missed it
14:43:20 <jwf> I wonder if the D&I docs one is live yet :)
14:43:28 <jwf> Do you know where we can find them?
14:45:10 <riecatnor> one sec
14:45:24 <jwf> No problem.
14:45:27 <riecatnor> doing three things at once already, and then I got a phone call :P
14:45:30 <meskarune> Did you end up organizing a time for docs updates?
14:45:40 <jwf> Yeah… one of the challenges of text-based meetings :P
14:45:52 <jwf> So, if you are interested in one of these tickets, there are folks who could help guide you or point you the right way.
14:45:57 <riecatnor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj9Hzo5MSmM&list=PL0x39xti0_66-VnwFuVEpS21cdJ1ihYbf
14:46:07 <jwf> But meskarune has a great point, that we should probably talk about scheduling that!
14:46:19 <riecatnor> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj9Hzo5MSmM&list=PL0x39xti0_66-VnwFuVEpS21cdJ1ihYbf
14:46:23 <jwf> Oh yeah. I guess this ticket is related too.
14:46:25 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/150
14:46:43 <jwf> (this is what happens when I procrastinate the meeting agenda and put it together last minute :P :P )
14:47:30 <jwf> I was thinking, we can alternate between two meetings a month, one as text and another as voice/video
14:48:11 <jwf> For now, I think this is something I can kick off. But I will need help after some time to avoid burning out. :)
14:48:42 <jwf> I will pick something that works in my calendar (a little crazy right now). Maybe we can make a habit of recording these and putting them somewhere for our team as a learning resource.
14:49:09 <jwf> Anyways, unless someone wants to ask a question now about docs. I will take the action to pick a date and add to Fedocal
14:49:44 <jwf> #action jwf Pick a date/time twice a month for D&I docs mentor sessions and add to Fedocal
14:50:01 <jwf> "Mentor sessions" sounds nicer than "hack session" in retrospect :P
14:50:12 <jwf> OK, anything else to add about docs?
14:50:22 <meskarune> jwf:++
14:50:22 <jwf> Going once…
14:50:26 <riecatnor> jwf++
14:50:32 <jwf> Going twice…
14:50:34 <jwf> :)
14:50:43 <ashlyna> I'd like to help with docs if possible
14:51:04 <jwf> ashlyna: Cool! Do you have time to chat after the meeting today?
14:51:15 <ashlyna> yup
14:51:34 <jwf> Cool. Let's chat right after the meeting once I get the minutes/notes sent to the mailing list. :)
14:51:47 <jwf> Going to switch to Open Floor so we have some time to come back for siddharthvipul
14:51:53 <jwf> #topic Open floor
14:53:13 * jwf is looking through backscroll to remember what we were saving time for
14:53:27 <jwf> Oh!
14:53:32 <jwf> It was the FWD survey questions.
14:53:37 <jwf> I guess we did end up covering that.
14:53:55 <jwf> Not sure if there is anything else to add, siddharthvipul / ashlyna?
14:54:08 <jwf> ashlyna: Not sure if you saw. The team is going to get feedback on the FWD survey questions by next meeting :)
14:54:09 * misc ponder about bringing the hey guys irc bot topic
14:54:41 <jwf> misc: Five minutes is tough to fit that in. :D Although, I think we should actually talk about it. It is an idea worth discussing.
14:54:53 <jwf> misc: Could I persuade you to open a Fedora Diversity ticket about this?
14:55:01 <jwf> I will make sure it is on the meeting agenda for next week :)
14:55:05 <jwf> Err, next meeting
14:55:09 <misc> jwf: sure, I was pondering on wether do it here or do it for Ansible
14:55:09 <jwf> I keep forgetting we are bi-weekly
14:55:21 <misc> or just go rogue and do it everywhere
14:55:47 <jwf> misc: Your call. I think it is doable for Fedora, but we need to have an open discussion about it, or at least give people a chance to comment and share (constructive) feedback.
14:56:15 <ashlyna> totally
14:56:19 <jwf> It is a change that for some people will surely be disruptive. So we need to think through the reactions that may happen from the community with that change. And be prepared to handle them.
14:56:37 <misc> yeah, I wanted to do some stats about the disruptiveness :)
14:56:44 <ashlyna> how do u mean?
14:57:01 <jwf> misc: May I give you the #action? :)
14:57:44 <jwf> misc: It is an interesting question to posit – once you define disruptiveness :D
14:57:52 <misc> #action jwf give a action to misc
14:57:56 <jwf> lolol
14:57:58 <jwf> misc++
14:58:03 <ashlyna> lol
14:58:24 <jwf> #action misc Open a Fedora D&I ticket about "hey guys" auto-reply feature for zodbot and thinking it through
14:58:28 <jwf> Thanks :)
14:58:31 <fm-diversity> pagure.issue.comment.added -- meskarune commented on ticket fedora-diversity#135: "Writing "Letter of Collaboration" to Fedora Council about Black Lives Matter statement from Fedora Leadership" https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/135#comment-673723
14:58:36 <jwf> OK, two minutes left!
14:58:50 <jwf> Any other things to bring up before we switch to a short off-the-record chat about docs?
14:58:58 <jwf> Or, off-the-zodbot
14:59:21 <jwf> Going once…
14:59:33 <jwf> Going twice…
14:59:50 <jwf> And thrice.
14:59:56 <jwf> OK!
15:00:02 <jwf> Thanks all for participating today!
15:00:21 <jwf> We will be back here in two weeks. Same channel… same time…
15:00:26 <jwf> ¡Adios!
15:00:28 <jwf> #endmeeting