15:02:54 <jwf> #startmeeting Fedora Diversity & Inclusion Team (2019-07-15)
15:02:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jul 15 15:02:54 2019 UTC.
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15:02:54 <jwf> #meetingname diversity
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15:02:54 <jwf> #nick di-team
15:02:59 <tg-fed-di> <L​oKoMurdoK> 😱😱😱😱
15:03:00 <jwf> #topic Agenda
15:03:05 <jwf> #link https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fedora-diversity-meeting-next
15:03:12 <jwf> #info (1) Roll call / introductions
15:03:12 <jwf> #info (2) Announcements
15:03:12 <jwf> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
15:03:12 <jwf> #info (4) Tickets
15:03:12 <jwf> #info (5) Open floor
15:03:18 <jwf> #topic Roll call / introductions
15:03:26 <jwf> If this is your first time at a D&I Team meeting, please introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
15:03:30 <jwf> Hi all! o/
15:03:35 <jwf> Who is around for the meeting today?
15:04:03 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> .hello tatica
15:04:17 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Hello from telegram
15:04:18 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> From the phone... As usual, cooking lunch 😭
15:04:34 * lbazan here
15:04:43 <nkathole> .hello nikhilkathole
15:04:44 <zodbot> nkathole: nikhilkathole 'Nikhil Kathole' <nkathole@redhat.com>
15:04:47 <pyadav> .hello pyadav
15:04:49 <zodbot> pyadav: pyadav 'Pooja Yadav' <ypooja510@gmail.com>
15:04:52 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> o/ tatica lbazan jflory7
15:04:54 <jwf> It's great that we have the Telegram bridge for the convenience :D
15:04:56 <lbazan> .hello lbazan
15:04:58 <zodbot> lbazan: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' <bazanluis20@gmail.com>
15:05:04 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Ujum
15:05:10 <jwf> #chair tatica bee2502 lbazan nkathole pyadav
15:05:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee2502 jwf lbazan nkathole pyadav tatica
15:06:02 <jwf> How is everyone feeling today?
15:07:07 <lbazan> jwf: good!
15:07:09 <pyadav> Good
15:07:35 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> :D
15:07:44 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> It's Monday and I am already looking forward to the weekend
15:07:59 <lbazan> only info jwf #167 its was accepted in flock :-) at the moment not need discuss.. or yes? :-)
15:08:19 <jwf> lbazan pyadav Happy to hear it :)
15:08:30 <lbazan> can be discussed at any time
15:08:33 <jwf> @bee2502: 😂😂 You are honest!
15:09:06 <jwf> lbazan: Sure, it is up to you. If you want feedback, we can discuss in meeting. Otherwise, you are all set to begin planning it for Flock :)
15:09:07 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Can relate....
15:09:38 <jwf> lbazan: Anything we can do to help or share ideas, let us know :)
15:10:08 <jwf> Okay, we are 10m after. Moving ahead.
15:10:15 <jwf> #topic Announcements
15:10:21 <jwf> #info === First FWD 2019 proposal submitted ===
15:10:21 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/fedora-womens-day/issue/15
15:10:35 <jwf> Props to orionstar25++ for jumping on with a proposal so quick :)
15:10:36 <zodbot> jwf: Karma for orionstar25 changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:10:50 <jwf> Hopefully there are more to come!
15:10:57 <jwf> Anyone else have announcements to share?
15:12:10 <jwf> Going once...
15:12:20 <jwf> Going twice...
15:12:30 <jwf> And thrice.
15:12:36 <jwf> #topic Action items from last meeting
15:12:43 <jwf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2019-06-24/diversity.2019-06-24-15.00.html
15:12:43 <jwf> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
15:13:05 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Follow up with pyadav on mailing list about FWD CFP article after meeting" ===
15:13:06 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-for-fedora-womens-day-2019-proposals/
15:13:06 <jwf> .thank pyadav
15:13:06 <zodbot> jwf thinks pyadav is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type pyadav++ since that is what gives them a cookie)
15:13:29 <jwf> Obviously, it is getting out there since we have a first proposal. :) I scheduled a tweet from @fedora Twitter tomorrow morning with a link.
15:13:41 <jwf> "@tatica Open a Design Team ticket on creating a FWD flyer for event organizers"
15:13:55 <jwf> @tatica: Do you want a re-action on this one?
15:14:10 <jwf> For next Monday meeting?
15:16:04 <jwf> I will re-action for now, we can come back later. :)
15:16:10 <jwf> #info === [IN PROGRESS] "tatica Open a Design Team ticket on creating a FWD flyer for event organizers" ===
15:16:11 <jwf> #action tatica Open a Design Team ticket on creating a FWD flyer for event organizers
15:16:13 <jwf> #nick tatica
15:16:22 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "nkathole Create a draft FWD feedback form for local organizers to share by Monday, 1 July" ===
15:16:22 <jwf> #link https://forms.gle/7auXeGLSz3GMmrqx6
15:16:22 <jwf> .thank nkathole
15:16:22 <zodbot> jwf thinks nkathole is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type nkathole++ since that is what gives them a cookie)
15:16:54 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "amita Share a first draft of D&I Flock hackfest agenda by Monday, 8 July" ===
15:16:54 <jwf> #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A3Ghe1ZMrhfhftIPqoWTbcNuY-9sPR1BzjvzcyKhilI/edit?usp=sharing
15:16:54 <jwf> .thank amita
15:16:54 <zodbot> jwf thinks amita is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type amita++ since that is what gives them a cookie)
15:17:09 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Yeah, working on that still
15:17:13 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "tatica Open a new D&I team Pagure ticket to discuss a new "I am Fedora" community video to start working on at Flock (cc: @x3mboy / @bt0dotninja over on Fedora Marketing)" ===
15:17:13 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/107
15:17:13 <jwf> .thank @tatica
15:17:13 <zodbot> jwf thinks @tatica is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please also type @tatica++ since that is what gives them a cookie)
15:17:24 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> The ticket is open tho. Just working on graphica
15:17:28 <lbazan> tatica can you create a badge for the flock event #167 ? (offtopic sorry)
15:17:48 <jwf> @tatica: Oh, super! I did not know the ticket was open.
15:18:11 <jwf> lbazan: You can request badge artwork here. :) https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/new_issue
15:18:12 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Of course
15:18:42 <jwf> That way, it will be in the Badges design workflow and make it easier for Badges designers to be in sync
15:19:26 <jwf> So that was all the action items from last meeting. Awesome work team! \o/
15:19:36 <jwf> Moving onto tickets.
15:19:43 <jwf> I have been prepping this part as I go :P
15:19:49 <jwf> #topic Tickets
15:19:49 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issues?status=Open&priority=20
15:20:01 <lbazan> jwf: +1
15:20:35 <jwf> #topic Ticket #104: "Fedora D&I team in Flock, 2019"
15:20:36 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/104
15:22:12 <jwf> Hmm, actually I don't think this ticket needs a meeting discussion. #109 (D&I Hackfest) is getting reviewed in that ticket, but I think we need to work through the draft. #106 (1x1 interviews) and #91 (speak a non-English language) are in progress too.
15:22:42 <jwf> @amisha3 @tatica lbazan: Are any of you three looking for specific feedback right now?
15:22:55 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Probably after Wednesday
15:22:58 <jwf> If not, I will remove the #104 ticket from the meeting agenda.
15:23:14 <lbazan> (work in progress..)
15:23:27 <lbazan> :-)
15:23:31 <jwf> @tatica: Cool. When it is ready for meeting discussion, please edit the ticket and change the priority to "next meeting". This will add it to the next meeting agenda and make it easy to follow-up. :)
15:23:46 <jwf> lbazan: Do you have ticket access to the D&I Pagure to do this? ^^
15:23:52 <lbazan> let me check
15:23:55 <lbazan> 1 sec
15:24:28 <lbazan> nope
15:24:50 <jwf> lbazan: Now you do :)
15:24:55 <lbazan> xD
15:24:56 <lbazan> ok
15:25:14 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Jwf do we discuss which tasks to prioritize for hackfest in the ticket itself?
15:25:38 <lbazan> I already checked
15:25:39 <jwf> @bee2502: I think we should follow up in the ticket. There is already some discussion from you and Amita in the ticket.
15:25:59 <jwf> We don't have everyone here to discuss, so I think it is better to follow-up in the ticket
15:26:02 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Cool
15:26:09 <tg-fed-di> <a​misha3> Hi
15:26:12 <tg-fed-di> <a​misha3> Sorry to be late
15:26:17 <tg-fed-di> <a​misha3> In between many things
15:26:42 <jwf> #info #104 has no updates; reminder to follow-up with discussion for D&I hackfest, 1x1 coffee interviews, and speak a non-English language in their respective sub-tickets
15:27:39 * jwf waves to @amisha3
15:27:42 <jwf> No worries, welcome :)
15:27:50 <jwf> I just updated #104
15:28:14 <jwf> #topic Ticket #94: "Fedora Women's Day 2019"
15:28:14 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/94
15:28:53 <jwf> I think the next step for the FWD ticket is coming up with improvements to our resource pack.
15:29:31 <jwf> @bee2502: For your questions, I think it is not a concern since we are not collecting sensitive demographic info (e.g. age/sex/location/race/ethnicity/etc.)
15:29:42 <jwf> But not a bad idea to confirm with bexelbie
15:30:06 <jwf> But since he is out-of-office for a while, it might be a slow response to hear back from him
15:30:24 <jwf> For the resource pack...
15:30:42 <jwf> I see two sub-tasks here:
15:30:57 <jwf> (1) Proposing new changes/additions to the current resource pack
15:31:09 <jwf> (2) Updating the docs to include changes/additions
15:31:17 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Jwf but we are collecting names and emails right? Or will it always be anonymous feedback?
15:31:56 <lbazan> I have to go sorry team! return in 1hr ...
15:32:11 <jwf> @bee2502: We are collecting names and emails. I can't really comment further since I am not a lawyer. We should ping spot from Fedora Legal actually since bex is out.
15:32:33 <jwf> Since there are about two months until the first FWD, I think we have time to follow up on this
15:32:41 <jwf> I'll follow up with spot and get his feedback
15:32:53 <jwf> lbazan: Thanks for being here! See you later :)
15:33:13 <jwf> For the resource pack action items, is someone willing to work on a draft of improvements for the resource pack?
15:33:43 <jwf> pyadav / nkathole: Would either of you be willing to help out with this?
15:34:05 <pyadav> jwf, sure
15:34:38 <nkathole> jwf, what things we consider to improve?
15:35:02 <jwf> nkathole: Good question
15:35:06 <jwf> So, I am looking at this: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/diversity-inclusion/fedora-womens-day/resource-pack/
15:35:59 <jwf> The idea is the resource pack is a helpful collection of content for local event organizers. This might be practical advice (e.g. how to promote your event, where to get flyers / graphics provided by D&I Team) and also content to talk about during FWD (what cool things are happening in Fedora community? How to get involved in Fedora community? etc.)
15:36:17 <jwf> We got some feedback here too: https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/fedora-womens-day/issue/15#comment-581916
15:36:20 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/fedora-womens-day/issue/15#comment-581916
15:36:39 <jwf> I was thinking, it might be a good idea to organize by audiences.
15:36:56 <jwf> So we could have sections for "University FWDs", "Office FWDs", or something like this
15:37:09 <jwf> University FWDs might mention Fedora Summer Coding internships for example
15:37:22 <nkathole> jwf, ahh thanks.. sure I can collaborate with pyadav on it
15:37:34 <jwf> Office FWDs might focus more on different technical areas, like maybe the Fedora Developer Portal https://developer.fedoraproject.org/
15:37:38 <jwf> Cool!
15:37:49 <jwf> I hope this explanation makes sense, at least some of what is in my head :)
15:38:09 <nkathole> yea you are damn good jwf :)
15:38:11 <jwf> nkathole pyadav: I suggest starting with a Google Doc for now. Later on, we can migrate things into our docs site.
15:38:59 <jwf> nkathole: Maybe but no ideas would be possible without an awesome team of people to help out :D
15:39:23 <jwf> nkathole pyadav: Is a draft by next Monday, 22 July reasonable? Or do you want more time?
15:39:33 <pyadav> jwf, yeah, we will start working on it,later we can get more feedback and improve it
15:40:02 <jwf> Cool. Realistically, this draft will be most useful by Flock
15:40:05 <jwf> For the D&I hackfest
15:40:17 <jwf> So we can hopefully get feedback from people in the room about ideas for it too
15:40:47 <jwf> I think Monday, 29 July is more realistic and is closer to when we would need a workable draft
15:40:59 <jwf> I'll action it for Monday, 29 July - sound good?
15:41:05 <nkathole> yup +1
15:41:26 <pyadav> yes, its fine
15:41:55 <jwf> Super! Y'all are both awesome :D
15:42:20 <jwf> #action nkathole pyadav Collaborate on draft of suggested improvements / additions to FWD organizer resource pack in a Google Doc by Monday, 29 July
15:42:45 <jwf> #idea Organize content by audiences (e.g. resources for university FWDs, resources for office FWDs, etc.)
15:43:28 <jwf> #idea Divided in two types of resources: actual organizer resources (e.g. promoting your FWD, where to find flyers / graphics from D&I team) and content resources (what cool things are happening in Fedora community? How to get involved in Fedora community? etc.)
15:43:59 <jwf> I think we covered the FWD ticket well for now. :) And @tatica has the flyer ticket in too, so we have that in progress too
15:44:20 <jwf> Let's move on to the last ticket.
15:44:25 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> ☺️
15:44:47 <jwf> #topic Ticket #54: "Create event organization best practices guide for D&I at Fedora events"
15:44:47 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/54
15:44:56 <jwf> @bee2502: Want to take the floor for this one?
15:47:53 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Sure
15:48:04 <jwf> Cool. Floor is yours!
15:48:54 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> So we have been working on creating some event guidelines for Fedora event organizers so that they can make their events more diverse and inclusive
15:49:32 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> We started the work on these guidelines last year and presented some of it at flock
15:50:13 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> But because our team is small and this topic is so complex, we decided to instead borrow from numfocus 's existing work and tailor it for Fedora events
15:51:17 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> I was hoping to present a preliminary version of this at flock d&i hackfest this year
15:52:02 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> My questions for the team are:
15:52:13 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> 1. Do we still see value in this?
15:52:54 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> 2. Let me know if anyone wants to help ( review the original numfocus guidelines and analyse what works for Fedora and what doesn't)
15:53:20 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Jwf team floor is yours..
15:53:35 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> I do. I would be interested on review it and give some feedback if needed
15:54:34 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> @Tatica that's awesome do you think you will have some time before flock? I don't want to burden you too much
15:55:06 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> I was thinking we present the draft once in meeting before flock and the n discuss it further at flock hackfest
15:55:12 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Way before
15:55:17 <jwf> @bee2502: I think #1 is clearly a yes, but I think breaking the ticket into smaller steps is needed. Reviewing all the guidelines is a big task and I think it makes it easier for others to help by breaking this ticket down into smaller pieces.
15:55:36 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> I learned with my burnout to not leave anything for main events to be develop, but presented and discussed to get it working right after they end
15:55:46 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Sounds perfect!
15:55:47 <jwf> @bee2502: Since you have done most of the work on this, could you take lead on coming up with some smaller action items and posting them into the ticket in the next week or two?
15:55:58 <tg-fed-di> <x​3mboy> I'm here
15:56:06 <tg-fed-di> <x​3mboy> I don't know why, but I'm here
15:56:06 * jwf waves to @x3mboy
15:56:13 <jwf> Hi! :)
15:56:20 <tg-fed-di> <x​3mboy> Hi
15:56:27 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> jwf so the numfocus guidelines has sections so if anyone wants to review one of those section - it will be really helpful
15:56:57 <jwf> @bee2502: Could you split out what tasks are helpful with some URL pointers in the ticket?
15:57:14 <jwf> Then we can try to divide this up into small pieces we can collaborate on together :)
15:57:23 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> I don't know what a task can be here
15:58:05 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> @Tatica that would be some awesome.. thanks a lot
15:58:27 <jwf> @bee2502: Dividing up all the guidelines into the sections you mentioned is one place to start.
15:58:43 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Jwf the sections already exist
15:59:40 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> The task according to me could be
15:59:40 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Read one chapter of the guidelines, and write a short summary of what works for Fedora and what doesn't
15:59:48 <jwf> I know - but guidance with the knowledge you already have is helpful to ask for specific feedback. I didn't know we were moving on from the draft we wrote up last year - so the NumFOCUS workbook is all new to me
15:59:55 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> There are 10 chapters so 10 such summaries
16:00:24 <jwf> @bee2502: Awesome, I like this as a start! Then we can try to move forward from there.
16:00:50 <jwf> @bee2502: Could I action you to write this up in the ticket? We are out of time for the meeting today and need to wrap up :)
16:00:54 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> @Tatica would u be interested in reviewing one of these chapters
16:01:01 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> Sure
16:01:03 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> Absolutely
16:01:06 <jwf> Awesome!
16:01:11 <jwf> #nick bee2502
16:02:02 <jwf> #action bee2502 Add comment to Ticket #54 about splitting up NumFOCUS chapters and asking for help with summarizing each of the ten chapters with rest of team
16:02:13 <tg-fed-di> <b​ee2502> @Tatica I will assign a chapter to you in the ticket. Let me know if you have a preference
16:02:20 <jwf> Cool. :) Thank you @bee2502!
16:02:29 <jwf> Alrighty folks, we are all out of time for this week's meeting!
16:02:36 <jwf> Thanks everyone for being here this week!
16:02:39 <tg-fed-di> 'Untitled Image' uploaded by b​ee2502: https://i.imgur.com/muQ3TxB.jpg
16:02:48 <tg-fed-di> <T​atica> I don't think I have a preference, but will take a look to the full info once I'm at the laptop
16:02:49 <jwf> Everyone is doing awesome work, I am super excited for what is next :D
16:03:00 <jwf> Catch you around…
16:03:03 <jwf> #endmeeting