15:11:09 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team
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15:11:10 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design
15:11:20 <mizmo> #topic roll call
15:11:20 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "roll call" in #fedora-design
15:11:26 <mizmo> .hello duffy
15:11:26 <moto-timo> .hello ttorling
15:11:27 <mizmo> mleonova: ^^
15:11:27 <zodbot> mizmo: duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com>
15:11:30 <zodbot> moto-timo: ttorling 'Tim Orling' <ticotimo@gmail.com>
15:11:30 <mizmo> mshakshober: ^^
15:11:39 <mizmo> hey moto-timo ! welcome!
15:11:40 <M1C4HTRON13> .hello mciahdenn
15:11:42 <mleonova> .hello mleonova
15:11:43 <zodbot> M1C4HTRON13: mciahdenn 'Micah Denn' <micah.denn@gmail.com>
15:11:46 <zodbot> mleonova: mleonova 'Maria Leonova' <mleonova@redhat.com>
15:11:56 <mizmo> hi M1C4HTRON13!
15:11:56 <moto-timo> thank you mizmo :)
15:12:29 <mizmo> moto-timo: is this your first meeting?
15:13:04 <moto-timo> yes. I'm wearing my Modularity-WG hat today
15:13:41 <mizmo> moto-timo: ah ok! sorry for putting you on the spot so feel free to pass, but ifyou'd like to introduce yourself to everybody (including folks who read minutes afterwards) you're more than welcome to now!
15:14:02 <moto-timo> sure
15:14:18 <moto-timo> I'm a software engineer working for Intel on the Yocto Project
15:14:34 <moto-timo> But I have been involved/using Fedora for many many years
15:14:57 <moto-timo> I worked my way through undergrad and grad school doing technical illustration (mostly Adobe Illustrator) and webdesign/backend
15:15:16 <moto-timo> So I'm an engineer that gets design :)
15:15:21 <mizmo> awesome! are you familiar with inkscape at all?
15:15:26 <moto-timo> Yes
15:15:33 <mleonova> moto-timo, nice! can we see your illustration somewhere?
15:15:46 <mizmo> moto-timo: lol a unicorn! welcome to the unicorn club :)
15:15:53 <moto-timo> :)
15:15:57 <M1C4HTRON13> FSF member as well I see. That's cool.
15:16:01 <moto-timo> most of it was for textbooks
15:16:20 <moto-timo> I did some recent badge mockups though
15:16:32 <moto-timo> but more extending other work, not original
15:16:59 <mizmo> very cool!
15:17:11 <moto-timo> https://ttorling.fedorapeople.org/dotnet-sig-badge/dotnet-sig.svg
15:17:12 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- ttorling linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://ttorling.fedorapeople.org/dotnet-sig-badge/dotnet-sig.svg"
15:17:30 <mizmo> looks great!
15:17:34 <moto-timo> :)
15:17:44 <mizmo> so how we normally run the meetings is we go through our ticket queue and check in on the status of tickets in progress, and try to triage / assign tickets that need someone working on them
15:17:55 <mizmo> our queue is here: https://pagure.io/design/issues/
15:18:04 <moto-timo> makes sense
15:18:12 <mizmo> but first - i'm going to do a quick open floor to see if there's anything more urgent
15:18:13 <mizmo> #topic open floor
15:18:13 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design
15:18:18 <mizmo> does anybody have anything urgent-ish to bring up?
15:18:27 <moto-timo> I am here to help request some web design work for Modularity-WG
15:18:28 <mizmo> or just something you wanted to make sure we covered today?
15:18:35 <jflory7> mshakshober++ Riot is spreading more and more, I see. :)
15:18:49 <mizmo> okay cool! moto-timo do you have a ticket yet or looking for advice on how to file?
15:18:50 <moto-timo> So I thought I'd better come introduce myself and then figure out what to put in the ticket
15:19:20 <mshakshober[m]> jflory7, it's so much more pleasant to look at :P
15:19:32 <mizmo> mshakshober: dont forget the phone app lol
15:19:48 <mleonova> what is this riot?
15:19:49 <mizmo> i actually like the phone app's UI better
15:19:58 <mshakshober[m]> WHAT. i'll be getting on that...
15:20:06 <mizmo> mleonova: http://riot.im - its the client i've been using for IRC
15:20:17 * mleonova looks
15:20:29 <mizmo> mshakshober: yeh thats how i was able to talk to you while hunched over my  non booting workstation wringing my hands lol
15:20:50 <moto-timo> lol
15:20:54 <mizmo> moto-timo: so tell us more about the website project! what kind of website does the modularity wg need?
15:20:55 <mleonova> hehe =) I'll check it out, thanks!
15:20:57 <mshakshober[m]> ahhhh it all makes sense now
15:21:27 <moto-timo> they want to replace their wiki (too constraining) with a static landing page and the rest of the content in a pagure repo
15:21:41 <moto-timo> there is also a logo candidate
15:21:50 <moto-timo> asamalik is doing most of the footwork
15:22:13 <moto-timo> I think the idea is to use pagure docs, so that means sphinx?
15:22:36 <mizmo> moto-timo: ah! i just learned about this yesterday :)
15:22:49 <mizmo> moto-timo: you could use anything that generates static pages
15:22:50 <mizmo> eg
15:23:07 <mizmo> https://docs.pagure.org/patternlab/
15:23:07 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://docs.pagure.org/patternlab/"
15:23:10 <mizmo> i just set this up yesterday
15:23:16 <mizmo> from http://pagure.io/patternlab
15:23:51 <mizmo> that's a gulp / nodejs app. you can also use grunt, or whatever the cool kids are using these days
15:24:18 <mizmo> mshakshober and i were talking earlier about implementing a nicer fedora brand book than the wiki affords using docs.pagure.org
15:24:36 <mizmo> moto-timo: so what does the wiki look like right now for modularity?
15:25:02 <moto-timo> looking...
15:25:10 <M1C4HTRON13> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Modularity_Working_Group
15:25:10 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mciahdenn linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Modularity_Working_Group"
15:25:11 <moto-timo> patternlab is awesome...
15:25:17 <moto-timo> thanks
15:25:59 <jflory7> mleonova: I'm planning to write a Fedora Magazine article how-to on using it as a client before the end of the month. :)
15:26:23 <mizmo> moto-timo: who are the main target users for the page the modularity wg is trying to set up? why are they visiting the page / what are they looking to accomplish?
15:27:10 <mizmo> moto-timo: also what's your timeline?
15:27:22 <mizmo> mshakshober: ^^ im thinking this might be a good project to get you started on UX too
15:27:31 <moto-timo> timeline: not a rush, with holidays and all
15:27:39 <moto-timo> I'm guessing they'd like Q1?
15:28:14 <moto-timo> they want a good looking place to point people to for branding/marketing/outreach
15:28:22 <mleonova> jflory7, cool!
15:28:46 <moto-timo> the users are either enterprise devops that need what modularity provides (separate software stacks)
15:28:57 <moto-timo> or new cool kids that are playing with the technology
15:29:07 <mshakshober[m]> I've got to go to class soon, but I will catch up on the minutes :) happy holidays everyone!
15:29:18 <mizmo> mshakshober: happy holidays!
15:29:31 <moto-timo> timeline is roughly F26
15:29:51 <mizmo> moto-timo: okay so it's going to be more of an external facing page than a fedora 'intranet' sort of thing
15:30:03 <moto-timo> that is my understanding
15:30:24 <moto-timo> hence why I suggested we ask for design help
15:30:43 <mizmo> ok cool. and from us, you're looking for maybe mockups / specs / site map designs on how it should work?
15:31:02 <moto-timo> yep. wireframe, color pallette, mockups
15:31:14 <moto-timo> patternlab helps with the color pallette :)
15:31:49 <moto-timo> asamalik has some skills, we just need some polish
15:32:04 <moto-timo> I know good design when I see it. I don't always do good design.
15:32:07 <mizmo> we don't typically do website implementation on our own. we usually do full mockups, sometimes css and help with the html, but setting up the framework / etc usually webdevs do. i worked with asamalik on the developer portal mockups so im used to working with him too
15:32:30 <mizmo> do you want to be the contact point / liasion for the project between the wg and design team?
15:32:30 <moto-timo> exactly what we want :)
15:33:19 <moto-timo> me as point should work
15:33:24 <mizmo> okay cool.
15:33:29 <moto-timo> I can then report to the WG meetings
15:33:53 <mizmo> so what i'll do from here - and i might not be able to do until after lunch - is ill file the ticket for you based on this info, and i can email you the link
15:34:03 <moto-timo> awesome
15:34:22 <mizmo> what i would like to do is have mshakshober work on it with me - she is our design intern atm and i'm trying to help her build up some UX experience for the summer
15:34:28 <mizmo> so ill CC her on it
15:34:43 <mizmo> coolio
15:34:53 <moto-timo> great
15:34:55 <mizmo> #action mizmo to file ticket for modularity WG website and mail to moto-timo
15:34:55 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo to file ticket for modularity WG website and mail to moto-timo"
15:35:07 <mizmo> moto-timo: is your FAS id moto-timo too? (what email should i use?)
15:35:22 <moto-timo> .fasinfo ttorling
15:35:22 <zodbot> moto-timo: User: ttorling, Name: Tim Orling, email: ticotimo@gmail.com, Creation: 2015-04-03, IRC Nick: moto-timo, Timezone: US/Pacific, Locale: en, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
15:35:25 <zodbot> moto-timo: Unapproved Groups: python-sig
15:35:27 <zodbot> moto-timo: Approved Groups: dotnet-sig modularity-wg packager fedorabugs cla_done cla_fpca
15:35:32 <mizmo> okay great!
15:35:36 <mizmo> thanks :)
15:35:46 <mizmo> okay, so we have roughly 25 min left, i wanna hit up some tix
15:35:50 <mizmo> #topic ticket triage
15:35:51 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "ticket triage" in #fedora-design
15:35:58 <mizmo> mleonova: i noticed a lot of activity on the pulp stuff lately
15:36:08 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issues/492
15:36:08 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issues/492"
15:36:22 <mleonova> mizmo, yes! we wanted to send everything to print before christmas
15:36:39 <mleonova> so it's done, I just need to upload files to ticket
15:36:55 <mizmo> i love the blue shirt! but they all look great, it's such a clean logo design <3
15:37:01 <moto-timo> thank you or giving me so much time :)
15:37:20 <mizmo> moto-timo: its our pleasure :)
15:37:35 <mleonova> thanks, mizmo =) they chose blue tee, a hex sticker and a cut out one
15:38:04 <mizmo> mleonova: i love the laptop and shirt photo mockups you did. what a cool idea
15:38:26 <mizmo> awesome work :)
15:38:38 <mleonova> mizmo, it does help a lot, thanks! =)
15:38:44 <mizmo> okay the next one i see is https://pagure.io/design/issue/491
15:38:45 <mizmo> Icons for FAF - also known as Retrace server or ABRT server
15:39:01 <mizmo> it looks like you grabbed this one mleonova so im going to tag it as traiged
15:39:02 <mizmo> triaged even
15:39:16 <mleonova> mizmo, yup!
15:39:43 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/489
15:39:43 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/489"
15:39:46 <mizmo> f25 media artwork
15:39:53 <mizmo> so this is done and off to the printers
15:39:57 <mizmo> i'm going to mark as closed
15:40:49 <fm-design> pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#489: "F25 Media Artwork" https://pagure.io/design/issue/489#comment-46383
15:41:23 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/488
15:41:23 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/488"
15:41:31 <mizmo> Create images for L10N roles
15:41:40 <mizmo> mleonova: damn girl you're on fire with these tix :)
15:41:48 <mleonova> :D
15:41:57 <mleonova> waiting for feedback on this one
15:42:04 <mizmo> i love the admin one
15:42:17 <mizmo> it makes *so* much sense and yet i don't think i've ever seen the super hero metaphor used for that
15:42:40 <mizmo> the coordinator and translator ones too are great
15:42:44 <mizmo> A+++++
15:42:57 <mleonova> aww, thanks mizmo =)
15:43:06 <fm-design> pagure.issue.tag.added -- duffy tagged ticket design#489: triaged https://pagure.io/design/issue/489
15:43:11 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/486
15:43:12 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/486"
15:43:13 <fm-design> pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#489: "F25 Media Artwork" https://pagure.io/design/issue/489#comment-46384
15:43:14 <fm-design> pagure.issue.edit -- duffy edited the close_status and status fields of ticket design#489 https://pagure.io/design/issue/489
15:43:20 <mizmo> Request of mockups for targeted Marketing message related to the Fedora upgrade.
15:43:38 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13: so you've taken this one after pgpattison gave it up! thank you for stepping in!
15:43:58 <M1C4HTRON13> no problem
15:44:09 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13: anything new to report on it? theres a lot more time to do something now with F26
15:44:32 <M1C4HTRON13> I started remaking most of the assets now we have more time
15:44:48 <M1C4HTRON13> did some experiments in blender but nothing to show yet
15:45:02 <M1C4HTRON13> will update the ticket when i have more
15:46:05 <M1C4HTRON13> I was wondering if it was worth rewriting the script
15:46:17 <M1C4HTRON13> but audio is already recorded
15:50:11 <mizmo> okay cool
15:50:17 <mizmo> well, are you happy with the audio?
15:50:22 <mizmo> would rerecording it be ahassle?
15:50:34 <mizmo> i mean, we have lots more time now, so if you think a different script would work better id say change it
15:50:40 <mizmo> and im happy to do the narration if you want a female voice
15:50:51 <moto-timo> :)
15:51:28 <M1C4HTRON13> oh thanks, that would be great
15:52:30 <mizmo> cool i just updated the ticket with that
15:52:30 <mizmo> lets see, next tick
15:52:41 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/484
15:52:41 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/484"
15:52:46 <mizmo> Redesign the easyfix page
15:52:49 <mizmo> ooh looks like ryan took this one
15:53:28 <mizmo> looks like kathryn is taking it over, ill reassign to her
15:54:02 <mizmo> oh i wanted to make sure we looked at this one
15:54:02 <mizmo> https://pagure.io/design/issue/480
15:54:03 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/480"
15:54:07 <mizmo> mleonova: ^^ what do you think about this one?? really interested in your opinion
15:54:12 <mizmo> Logo for "Fedora Playground"
15:54:59 * mleonova looks
15:55:45 <mleonova> oh, I love the idea!
15:55:49 <mizmo> i think mattdm is looking more for a mark, like the fedora remix mark
15:55:55 <mizmo> i love the design pgpattison came up with
15:56:11 <mizmo> but i guess matt is looking for something a bit different, a mark on its own
15:56:38 <mleonova> it gives me very positive feelings, but let's see what matt says
15:57:00 <mizmo> yeh im going to reach out to him and have  chat and see if we can come up with an idea. i do love that logo tho
15:57:06 <mizmo> okay
15:57:17 <mizmo> i gotta run to an 11 am meeting now :( so we had a short meeting today.
15:57:19 <mizmo> thank you everyone for coming, i really appreciate it!
15:57:25 <mizmo> #action mizmo to reach out to mattdm on #480
15:57:25 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo to reach out to mattdm on #480"
15:57:31 <mizmo> #endmeeting