14:01:56 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team
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14:01:56 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design
14:01:59 <mizmo> #topic roll call!
14:02:00 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "roll call!" in #fedora-design
14:02:01 <mizmo> who's here?
14:02:11 <pgpattison> morning!
14:02:12 <M1C4HTRON13> present
14:02:28 <mizmo> hi pgpattison is this your first meeting?
14:02:47 <pgpattison> been a while, so for our purposes, yes
14:02:52 <mshakshober> morning all!
14:03:37 <mizmo> morning mshakshober
14:04:10 <mizmo> cool lets see
14:04:18 <mizmo> lets talk about F25 / deadlines first
14:04:22 <mizmo> #topic F25 / deadlines
14:04:22 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "F25 / deadlines" in #fedora-design
14:04:24 * mizmo looks up the schedule
14:04:40 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
14:04:40 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule"
14:04:51 <mizmo> well crap
14:04:57 <mizmo> we missed beta for the wallpaper
14:05:04 <mizmo> (deadline was yesterday)
14:05:17 <mizmo> oh no we didn't
14:05:18 <mshakshober> oh no, i didn't know what the deadline was...
14:05:19 <mizmo> its 9/27
14:05:19 <mizmo> ok
14:05:23 <mizmo> so we need to package that up ASAP
14:05:27 <mizmo> mshakshober, its ok it slipped a week
14:05:35 <mizmo> mshakshober, is your latest version and your source files on the ticket?
14:06:06 <mshakshober> my latest should be there, i'll check right now
14:06:35 <mizmo> okie great
14:07:11 <mshakshober> just checked, it's all there
14:07:28 <mizmo> mshakshober, whats the ticket number?
14:07:42 <mshakshober> mizmo, it's 473
14:07:53 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/473
14:07:54 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/473"
14:08:37 <mizmo> ok cool
14:08:52 <mizmo> mshakshober, do you have some time to export this out to the required sizes mshakshober?
14:08:56 <mizmo> so we could get it packaged?
14:09:03 <mizmo> would probably need it done by tomm night
14:09:08 <mizmo> so the package rhas time
14:09:17 <mshakshober> what sizes do we need?
14:09:34 <mizmo> 3840x3072
14:09:47 <mshakshober> cuz i could definitely get it done by tomorrow night
14:09:48 <mizmo> 4096x3072
14:10:06 <mizmo> 3840x2160
14:10:21 <mizmo> 3840x2400
14:10:38 <mizmo> so those are the 4 sizes, let me name them and give you some info about the formal we need
14:10:47 <mizmo> normalish 4096x3072
14:10:52 <mizmo> standard 4096x3072
14:10:58 <mizmo> tv-wide 3840x2160
14:11:03 <mizmo> wide 3840x2400
14:11:07 <mizmo> okay so the format we need them in -
14:11:13 <mizmo> export as PNG from inkscape
14:11:26 <mizmo> make a tar.gz file (or zip file if you cant do tar.gz)
14:11:36 <mizmo> inside the compressed file should be the following directory structure
14:11:44 <pgpattison> wait... "normalish" and "standard" are the same HxW?
14:11:55 <mizmo> whoops
14:11:58 <mizmo> good catch pgpattison
14:12:01 * mizmo is transcribing a lot
14:12:11 <mizmo> #info normalish 3840x3072
14:12:11 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "normalish 3840x3072"
14:12:19 <mizmo> #info standard 4096x3072
14:12:19 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "standard 4096x3072"
14:12:30 <mizmo> #info tv-wide 3840x2160
14:12:30 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "tv-wide 3840x2160"
14:12:37 <mizmo> #info wide 3840x2400
14:12:37 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "wide 3840x2400"
14:12:43 <mizmo> okay so the folder structure should be something like this
14:13:02 <mizmo> top level folder: f25. then inside that a folder default. then inside that a folder for each size - normalish, standard, tv-wide, wide
14:13:23 <mizmo> and the file inside each should be named f24.png. so all four files are f24.png, but they are in the correct folder to indicate their size
14:13:32 <mizmo> so its gonna look something like this
14:13:48 <mizmo> f25 > default > normalish > f25.png (the 3840x3072 file)
14:14:00 <mizmo> f25 > default > standard > f25.png (the 4096x3072 file)
14:14:14 <mizmo> f25 > default > tv-wide > f25.png (the 3840x2160 file)
14:14:26 <mizmo> f25 > default > wide > f25.pg (the 3840x2400 file)
14:14:29 <mizmo> mshakshober, ^^ does this make sense?
14:15:04 <mshakshober> ya i think so, so is it just .png that they each need to be exported as within the compression file?
14:15:26 <mizmo> mshakshober, there should be 4 pngs, one per each size, and you need that folder structure inside the file
14:16:03 <mizmo> mshakshober, doable?
14:16:48 <mshakshober> mizmo, ok yup that's what i meant. i will probably do this this afternoon so if there's any issues we would have a little time to deal
14:16:51 <mizmo> mshakshober, if you dstill have your fedora laptop - you basically can create the folder structure, drag the pngs into the right folders, then go to the top level folder ("f25"), right click, hit 'compress' and name it
14:16:57 <mizmo> mshakshober, okay great! thank you so much
14:17:04 <mizmo> having it in that format will make it a lot easier for the packager
14:17:07 <mizmo> cool
14:17:41 <mizmo> i dont know of any other deadlines... i have been working on a lot of website changes with robyduck for f25 - we're going to be shipping workstation as live media, and we're hoping to swap out the cloud edition for the atomic editoin for f25
14:17:49 <mizmo> so a lot of the work for f25 has been around the website
14:18:04 <mizmo> ive been wanting to revamp the look of the website slightly too but i dont know how much of that we'll get done
14:18:06 <mizmo> okay
14:18:10 <mizmo> #topic review apac meeting minutes
14:18:11 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "review apac meeting minutes" in #fedora-design
14:18:16 <mizmo> lets see if the apac meeting minutes are in meetbot
14:19:31 <mizmo> okay it doesn't look like they've had another meeting
14:19:37 <mizmo> we should probably ping them about that on list and see whats going on
14:19:48 <mizmo> #action mizmo to ping apac folks on design-team@lists.fpo to see what's up
14:19:48 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo to ping apac folks on design-team@lists.fpo to see what's up"
14:19:57 <mizmo> maybe im not looking for the right thin gin meetbot or they forgot to turn meetbot on
14:19:57 <mizmo> okay
14:20:00 <mizmo> #topic open floor
14:20:00 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design
14:20:15 <mizmo> just a quick open floor before we dive into ticket triage - anybody have concerns, ideas, feedback, anything regarding fedora design?
14:20:41 * mizmo runs quickly and grabs a drink from kitchen to give folks time in case they have something :)
14:20:54 <M1C4HTRON13> whats the status on us moving to pagure?
14:21:14 <mshakshober> with the wallpaper, before i export everything, is there anything that people think would strengthen the design?
14:21:43 <mshakshober> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/473
14:21:43 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mshakshober linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/473"
14:21:50 <mshakshober> here's a the ticket again
14:22:04 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, so i'm the bottleneck on pagure - but if you have interest you could help us move forward :) basically we're not starting to use it until i can look into the migratoin script and try running it to import our stuff from trac into it.
14:22:36 <mizmo> #info pagure migration next step is to test migration script with design team trac data and see if it imports correctly
14:22:37 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "pagure migration next step is to test migration script with design team trac data and see if it imports correctly"
14:23:03 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- eischmann updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/477
14:23:14 <M1C4HTRON13> I'm happy to help
14:23:36 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, sweet, do you want to take on the action item of chasing down the import script and giving it a test run?
14:23:52 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, i made a repo on pagure to test it with, it's just 'design', and i can give you admin access
14:23:57 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, whats your FAS id?
14:24:08 <M1C4HTRON13> mciahdenn
14:24:23 <mizmo> #action mizmo to grant admin privs to mciahdenn on pagure.io design repo
14:24:23 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo to grant admin privs to mciahdenn on pagure.io design repo"
14:24:51 <mizmo> #action M1C4HTRON13 to find trac=>pagure migration script and do a test run using design-team trac and design pagure
14:24:51 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "M1C4HTRON13 to find trac=>pagure migration script and do a test run using design-team trac and design pagure"
14:24:58 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, thank you so much!
14:25:47 <M1C4HTRON13> also I thought I might open a ticket if someone wants to write up a nice README for the repo
14:25:47 <mizmo> mshakshober, so for beta, i think it's great as is. pushing it / iterating it for final - you might want to play with texture? i think flat is pretty in style right now but splashes of texture here and there might make it interesting
14:26:20 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, thats a good idea. would you open up the ticket in trac?
14:26:57 <mizmo> mshakshober, i also probably should have shown you this while you were in the office, but you could play with moving the focus of radial gradient and using radials instead of linears on the petals
14:27:17 <M1C4HTRON13> probably, will see how the migration goes first
14:27:48 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, ok cool. we should make a trac ticket for the migration too and assign to you -
14:27:54 <mshakshober> mizmo, ok so do you think that i should just go ahead and package it for beta and submit to the ticket so that we have something, and then continue to change it for the final?
14:28:05 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, the thing to know is right now the design team badges are hooked up only to trac so if you want credit for your work in badges it has to have a trac ticket
14:28:13 <mizmo> mshakshober, yep i think thats probably the best plan
14:29:10 <mshakshober> mizmo, ya I've tried a couple of different ways with the orientation of the gradients so i could definitely try relooking into some different opacities with a radial gradient
14:30:04 <mizmo> mshakshober, the focus trick i was talking about with radial gradients - make a radial gradient, hold down shift key, and drag from the center of the gradient (should be a white box).... what you drag out will be a little X, that's the gradient focus, it can totally change the lighting of the gradient and makes it so it's not so artifically even looking
14:30:37 <mizmo> all right
14:30:47 <mizmo> lets hit up some tickets... i have a hard stop at 11 bc i have bumper to bumper meetings this morning o_O
14:30:52 <mizmo> #topic ticket triage
14:30:52 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "ticket triage" in #fedora-design
14:30:58 <mshakshober> mizmo, oh cool, i'll give that a try
14:31:34 <mizmo> okay first ticket, i'll do tihs one bc sesivany just updated it :)
14:31:35 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/477
14:31:35 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/477"
14:31:40 <mizmo> Stand-up banner design for developer conferences
14:33:47 <mizmo> anybody interested in this one? it's open
14:35:08 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/477
14:35:12 <pgpattison> looks straightforward. by "vertical logo" they want the version w/ the infinity logo above the fedora logotype?
14:36:00 <mizmo> pgpattison, i dont think you necessarily have to use the vertical logo. i think that's what sesivany was thinking initially, but as you mock it up in inkscape a different logo version might work out better. i'd say, play with it and see what works
14:36:16 <mizmo> you might want to use a pattern like this https://developer.fedoraproject.org/static/img/footer_lodyas.png
14:37:08 <mizmo> basically crib the color scheme / design style from developer.fedoraproject.org
14:37:14 <mizmo> pgpattison, want the ticket?
14:38:14 <mizmo> pgpattison, well feel free to claim it if you want it... if you give me your fas id i can assign it to you
14:38:19 <pgpattison> Yeah, I can take it. I put together a couple of mockups.
14:38:27 <pgpattison> No deadline specified?
14:38:27 <mizmo> pgpattison, okay great, what is your fasid?
14:38:54 <mizmo> pgpattison, sesivany would know. he may have it in mind for a particular conference (maybe devconf?)
14:39:01 <pgpattison> same as my nick, pgpattison
14:39:08 <mizmo> devconf is in jan
14:39:23 <mizmo> cool assigning to you!
14:39:29 <pgpattison> okay. so not like 8PM EDT tonight.  ;-)
14:39:36 <mizmo> lol no wai
14:39:57 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/477
14:40:18 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/477
14:40:36 <mizmo> ok next ticket
14:40:37 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/405
14:40:37 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/405"
14:40:44 <mizmo> so the council said we can close this one because it's not a priority anymore
14:40:46 <pgpattison> do we have the texture used behind the "workstation"/"server"/"cloud" images on the front page of getfedora.org?
14:41:01 <mizmo> pgpattison, yeh, gimme one sec i can give you url
14:41:11 <pgpattison> thx
14:41:48 <mizmo> pgpattison, they are here - https://github.com/fedoradesign/nextweb-assets/tree/master/Mockups/_General%20Artwork
14:41:53 <mizmo> pgpattison, there's a grayscale one too
14:42:40 <pgpattison> ok. still using open sans for body copy ("The System for Developers")?
14:43:03 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/405
14:43:27 <mizmo> pgpattison, actually yeh use open sans for everything
14:43:39 <mizmo> pgpattison, we only used montserrat for the 'developer' logotype
14:44:04 <pgpattison> k, thanks, that's all my questions for now. sorry to hold up the mtg.
14:44:13 <mizmo> pgpattison, no no no its all good whatever you need
14:44:20 <mizmo> you're doing us a favor by working on the ticket!
14:44:23 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/476
14:44:23 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/476"
14:44:27 <mizmo> [Diversity Team] Pagure-friendly icon
14:44:32 <mizmo> so there's a series of these for different teams
14:44:41 <M1C4HTRON13> I wonder if its worth having some kind of style-guide/standard for all the repo icons
14:45:27 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, definitely
14:46:07 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/476
14:46:16 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/476
14:46:51 <mizmo> #info we have a series of icon tickets for pagure that need someone to work on them: 476, 475, 474
14:46:52 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "we have a series of icon tickets for pagure that need someone to work on them: 476, 475, 474"
14:47:32 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/469
14:47:32 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/469"
14:47:36 <mizmo> T-Shirt SEA Translation Challenge
14:47:48 <mizmo> #info should probably develop guidelines for pagure icons as we create them so they fit together
14:47:49 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "should probably develop guidelines for pagure icons as we create them so they fit together"
14:47:57 <mizmo> okay so this t-shirt needs someone to work on it
14:48:07 <mizmo> #info ticket #469 open for someone to work on it (tshirt design)
14:48:08 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "ticket #469 open for someone to work on it (tshirt design)"
14:48:31 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/469
14:48:49 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/467
14:48:49 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/467"
14:48:50 <mizmo> logo request one
14:48:54 <mizmo> New logo request for libseccomp
14:49:03 <mizmo> #info need someone to design ticket 467 - logo design
14:49:03 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "need someone to design ticket 467 - logo design"
14:49:20 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/465
14:49:20 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/465"
14:49:24 <mizmo> Create a site/way to to show easyfix design/badge tickets
14:49:28 <mizmo> ill ping croberts on this one
14:50:26 * mizmo emailed croberts
14:50:44 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/451
14:50:44 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/451"
14:50:50 <mizmo> Logo for Albanian Fedora Community
14:51:00 <mizmo> no replies from ticket owner, will ask one more time and then open it up
14:51:02 <mizmo> if no response
14:51:30 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/451
14:51:47 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/448
14:51:48 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/448"
14:51:53 <mizmo> advertising Magazine and CommBlog on AskFedora
14:52:04 <mizmo> #info ticket 448 needs someonet o work on it (web banner)
14:52:05 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "ticket 448 needs someonet o work on it (web banner)"
14:52:07 <mizmo> damn
14:52:12 <mizmo> we dont normally have a lot of free open tickets but now we have a ton
14:52:18 <mizmo> i wonder if we should do a hackfest / member drive
14:53:07 <pgpattison> looks like 448 is abandoned? i can take it if you'll send me the svg template mentioned in the ticket convo.
14:53:28 <mizmo> pgpattison, not abandoned, basically nobody grabbed it :)
14:53:40 <mizmo> pgpattison, there isn't a template for it though
14:53:54 <mizmo> pgpattison, basically the design has to be something that would fit on ask.fpo
14:54:33 <pgpattison> sorry, i called out the wrong ticket... i was talking about 451, not 448. :-P
14:54:57 <mizmo> ah for 451 i want to give him 2 more weeks
14:55:03 <mizmo> so next meeting! you could grab this one
14:55:05 <mizmo> make sense?
14:55:10 <pgpattison> you bet
14:55:33 <mizmo> #action mizmo needs to do ticket 427
14:55:33 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo needs to do ticket 427"
14:55:40 <mizmo> #action mizmo needs to do #366
14:55:40 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "mizmo needs to do #366"
14:56:40 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/437
14:56:40 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/437"
14:56:42 <mizmo> icon for openqa
14:56:48 <mizmo> they closed this upstream so im guessing they're good with it now
14:56:50 <mizmo> so ill close ours
14:57:12 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/437
14:57:21 <mizmo> all right guys
14:57:24 <mizmo> i gotta run to my next meeting
14:57:29 <mizmo> thank you everybody for coming to the meeting!
14:57:31 <mizmo> #endmeeting