16:08:35 <jwf> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2018-09-26)
16:08:35 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 26 16:08:35 2018 UTC.
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16:08:35 <zodbot> The chair is jwf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:08:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_(2018-09-26)'
16:08:39 <jwf> #meetingname commops
16:08:39 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops'
16:08:41 <jwf> #nick commops
16:08:43 <jwf> #topic Agenda
16:08:47 <jwf> #link https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fedora-commops-meeting-next
16:08:50 <jwf> #info (1) Roll call / Q&A
16:08:52 <jwf> #info (2) Announcements
16:08:54 <jwf> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
16:08:56 <jwf> #info (4) Tickets
16:08:58 <jwf> #info (5) Open floor
16:09:00 <jwf> The agenda is totally out of date. :)
16:09:02 <jwf> #topic Roll call / Q&A
16:09:04 <jwf> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
16:09:08 <jwf> #action commops New members, please introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/commops/contribute/join/ ]
16:09:11 <jwf> If this is your first time at a CommOps meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
16:09:34 <jwf> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, D&I Team, Mindshare (for a month more), Fedora Badges sysadmin
16:09:43 <jwf> Hi all – who all is around for a quick meeting?
16:09:45 <bcotton> #info Ben Cotton; UTC-4; FPgM
16:09:46 <jwf> .members commops
16:09:47 <zodbot> jwf: Members of commops: algogator bcotton @bee2502 @bex bt0dotninja cprofitt decause dhanesh95 @jflory7 jonatoni meskarune nb rhea roca @skamath wesleyotugo x3mboy
16:09:50 * jwf waves to bcotton
16:09:52 <jwf> #chair bcotton
16:09:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton jwf
16:09:56 <bcotton> o/
16:10:32 <fcommops-tg1> <bee2502> Hi
16:10:48 <nb> hi
16:10:53 <nb> .hello2
16:10:53 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nick@bebout.net>
16:11:08 * jwf waves to @bee2502 and nb
16:11:11 <jwf> #chair bee2502 nb
16:11:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton bee2502 jwf nb
16:11:25 <fcommops-tg1> <bt0dotninja> I'm here but only reading ..
16:11:41 <jwf> @bt0dotninja: Okay, good to know!
16:11:44 <jwf> #chair bt0
16:11:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton bee2502 bt0 jwf nb
16:11:54 <jwf> We'll try to make this a quick meeting
16:11:57 <jwf> #topic Announcements
16:12:04 <jwf> #info === "FPgM report: 2018-38" ===
16:12:04 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fpgm-report-2018-38/
16:12:04 <jwf> #info This week in Fedora is brought to you in part by bcotton.
16:12:15 * jwf still needs to get to that tab to read it :)
16:12:46 <jwf> #info === "Submit a Fedora talk to DevConf.cz 2019" ===
16:12:46 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/submit-fedora-talk-devconf-cz-2019/
16:12:46 <jwf> #info The CfP for the DevConf devops conference in Brno, Czech Republic is now open. Fedora topics welcome!
16:12:48 <jwf> <eof>
16:12:53 <jwf> Does anyone else have anything to share?
16:13:29 <fcommops-tg1> <bt0dotninja> The beta?
16:13:31 <labbott> win 44
16:13:50 <jwf> Oh, duh!
16:14:06 <jwf> #info === "Announcing the release of Fedora 29 Beta" ===
16:14:11 <jwf> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-29-beta/
16:14:36 <jwf> #info Fedora 29 Beta launched this week! Get a sneak peek into what's ahead for Fedora and what's planned for the final release next month.
16:14:59 * jwf wonders if this year will be the year for a Halloween holiday release in the US
16:15:07 <jwf> Any other announcements?
16:15:12 <jwf> Going once…
16:15:17 <jwf> bt0++ for bringing that one up btw
16:15:23 <jwf> Going twice…
16:15:30 <jwf> And thrice.
16:15:35 <jwf> #topic Action items from last meeting
16:15:38 <jwf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-commops/2018-09-19/commops.2018-09-19-16.01.html
16:15:42 <jwf> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
16:15:50 * jwf is writing this in real-time :)
16:15:54 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "bt0 Write a second contributor story for FAW (due no later than Monday, 2018-09-24)" ===
16:16:31 <jwf> #info === [DELAYED] "jwf Write a CommBlog article summarizing CommOps @ Flock by Wednesday, Sept. 26" ===
16:16:31 <jwf> #action jwf Write a CommBlog article summarizing CommOps @ Flock by Wednesday, Oct. 3
16:17:13 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Work with bt0 and pingou to configure a new event to collect and vote on community photos in Nuancier for Fedora Appreciation Week" ===
16:17:13 <jwf> #info We reached out to pingou via email to see if Nuancier can be used for FAW. Might be a slow response since a major Pagure update released this week too.
16:17:36 <fcommops-tg1> <bt0dotninja> Awesome
16:17:52 <jwf> #info === [IN PROGRESS] "bt0 Collect info on current Pagure issue tags used in fedora-commops / fedora-marketing and add proposal as comment to ticket #168 (by Wednesday, Oct. 3)" ===
16:17:53 <jwf> #action bt0 Collect info on current Pagure issue tags used in fedora-commops / fedora-marketing and add proposal as comment to ticket #168 (by Wednesday, Oct. 3)
16:17:59 <jwf> ^^ this one is set for follow-up next week :)
16:18:25 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "bcotton File a new CommOps ticket about an editorial calendar for the CommBlog to prevent editors stepping on toes for scheduling articles (and other ways to improve awareness of CommBlog happenings)" ===
16:18:53 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "bcotton File a new CommOps ticket about an editorial calendar for the CommBlog to prevent editors stepping on toes for scheduling articles (and other ways to improve awareness of CommBlog happenings)" ===
16:18:53 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/184
16:19:02 <jwf> Oops. Too much copypasta
16:19:14 <bcotton> o/
16:19:17 <jwf> Okay, that's all the action items from last time. \o/
16:19:46 <jwf> Nice work all. I'll seriously try to get that CommBlog article done soon while I can remember :P
16:19:47 <jwf> #topic Tickets
16:19:50 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?status=Open&priority=20
16:20:34 <jwf> #topic Ticket #110: "Fedora Appreciation Week 2018"
16:20:34 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/110
16:20:34 <jwf> #link https://screenshots.firefox.com/xu7fdJ4v3sVLlQYh/etherpad.gnome.org
16:21:05 <jwf> I think this one is blocked. I'm not sure what new updates there are here
16:21:16 <jwf> For the photos, we are working with pingou for possibly using Nuancier
16:21:25 <jwf> @dhanesh95 already got the design and badges tickets
16:22:05 <jwf> I think closing out on these loops is all that's needed
16:22:37 <jwf> Writing a common header may slip to next month, but it's not affecting the overall schedule and won't put us far behind
16:22:50 <jwf> Anyone have anything they want to bring up for FAW?
16:22:59 * jwf has nothing else
16:23:38 <jwf> #info No updates as of now; bt0 and jwf working with pingou for using Nuancier. dhanesh95 filed tickets for Design and Badges. Still need a common header for CommBlog posts published during FAW, but may slip to next month.
16:24:01 <jwf> Ticket #110, going once…
16:24:12 <jwf> Going twice…
16:24:18 <jwf> And thrice.
16:24:34 <jwf> #topic Ticket #178: "Pilot run a CommOps section on discussion.fedoraproject.org"
16:24:34 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/178
16:24:34 <jwf> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/
16:25:23 <jwf> I just read bexelbie's comment there
16:25:37 <jwf> Our switch to Discourse is technically "scheduled" for Monday
16:26:11 <jwf> There's probably a few things we need to keep in mind for work remaining:
16:27:34 <jwf> #info Work to do before Monday, Oct. 1 launch: (1) explicitly announce transition on list, (2) set up an auto-mailer message for the mailing list about Discourse, (3) set up / configure the CommOps subforum with help from sanja
16:27:46 <jwf> This is what I had in mind, but curious to know what anyone else thinks
16:27:52 <jwf> Does anyone have any questions about this too?
16:28:12 <jwf> Since we moved relatively quickly on Discourse and it will be a shift from over three years of using our mailing list
16:28:18 <jwf> Now is a good time to ask or bring anything up :)
16:28:26 <bcotton> do we have any automated messages (e.g. from Pagure) that go to mailman?
16:30:05 <jwf> bcotton: Not currently, but I'd need to double-check. Generally I prefer humans-only for discussion-based lists, but maybe there is something I forgot
16:30:07 <jwf> Oh, Fedocal
16:30:14 <jwf> I'd need to figure out something for Fedocal
16:30:31 * jwf wonders if Discourse would support posts via email…
16:30:32 <bcotton> yeah, this is also an opportunity to reconsider if we need those automated messages
16:30:38 <jwf> Also true
16:30:46 <bcotton> but we should be intentional one way or another
16:31:12 <jwf> #info Fedocal automated email messages need consideration
16:31:43 <jwf> Anything else we want to cover here?
16:31:54 <jwf> I'll action myself for the email announcement and the auto-mailer message
16:32:29 <jwf> #action jwf Send an email announcement to CommOps list to boost awareness of upcoming Mailman => Discourse migration experiment by end of day Wednesday, Sept. 26
16:33:01 <jwf> #action jwf Set up auto-email response for new threads on CommOps list to explain Discourse migration by Sunday, Sept. 30
16:33:17 <jwf> Anything else on Discourse?
16:34:07 <jwf> Going once…
16:34:17 <jwf> Going twice…
16:34:27 <jwf> And thrice.
16:34:35 <jwf> #topic Ticket #168: "Propose a set of Pagure tags than help the onboarding process"
16:34:36 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/168
16:34:36 <jwf> #info Next Steps: find the correct place for this docs (CommOps docs?? another repo, a brand new docs page?)
16:34:50 <jwf> @bt0dotninja: Do you have any updates on this ticket or do you want to push it to next week?
16:35:31 <fcommops-tg1> <bt0dotninja> Not really, but action me to do a update before the next meeting
16:35:57 * jwf nods
16:36:20 <jwf> #action bt0 Update Ticket #168 (Pagure tags ticket) by next meeting on Wednesday, Oct. 3
16:36:46 <jwf> That's all the tickets I saw marked for meeting discussion, although there was not great pre-meeting triage.
16:36:47 <jwf> #topic Open floor
16:36:56 <jwf> Does anyone else have anything to bring up?
16:37:06 * jwf makes a quick scroll through of open tickets
16:37:33 <jwf> Ooh, yeah, this ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/186
16:37:44 <jwf> I thought this could be a good development project for CommOps to tackle
16:38:05 <fcommops-tg1> <bt0dotninja> Sounds amazing
16:38:07 <jwf> Many moons ago, decause and threebean wrote this tool that creates word clouds from Fedora IRC meetings and posts them to Twitter
16:38:14 <jwf> But the bot has not been touched in three years
16:38:23 <jwf> And when I was reading the README, it is not easy to start using :(
16:38:28 <fcommops-tg1> <bt0dotninja> Can you link the code?
16:38:32 <jwf> So I thought modernizing it and deploying it would be fun
16:38:40 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/wordcloudbot
16:39:45 * jwf has nothing else
16:40:12 <jwf> We can end 20 minutes early – I think a lot of folks are running around today.
16:40:20 <jwf> Hopefully next week will have better turnout :)
16:40:26 <jwf> Thanks everyone for participating today!
16:40:33 <jwf> See y'all around the Fedora-universe…
16:40:37 <jwf> #endmeeting