f39-blocker-review
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#fedora-blocker-review: F39-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:07:41 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:07:42)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:11:31)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:11:32)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:11:32)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:11:32)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:11:33)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:11:35)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:11:37)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:11:39)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:11:41)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:11:43)
    10. 2 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:12:06)
    11. 6 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:12:06)
    12. 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:12:12)
    13. 36 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:12:12)
    14. 5 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:12:27)
    15. 3 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:12:27)
    16. many thanks to folks for doing a lot of ticket voting (adamw, 16:15:36)
    17. coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:15:43)

  3. Proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 16:16:13)
  4. (2234466) crash after clicking Reset All in Blivet partitioning (in GTK installer) (adamw, 16:16:29)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2234466 (adamw, 16:16:30)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1189 (adamw, 16:16:30)
    3. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:16:30)
    4. Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-frantisekz) (adamw, 16:16:30)
    5. AGREED: 2234466 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - we agreed this doesn't quite violate the Beta criteria. Note it is already accepted as Beta FE and Final blocker. (adamw, 16:32:38)

  5. (2234518) webUI: allows you to enter an encryption passphrase in non-ASCII characters with no warning (adamw, 16:33:09)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2234518 (adamw, 16:33:10)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1193 (adamw, 16:33:10)
    3. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:33:10)
    4. Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+5,0,-1) (+geraldosimiao, +imsedgar, +tflink, +nielsenb, +lruzicka, -kparal) (adamw, 16:33:10)
    5. Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+adamwill) (adamw, 16:33:12)
    6. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1985679 is the warning that oldUI shows (adamw, 16:43:24)
    7. AGREED: 2234518 - punt (delay decision) - as things stand, votes are +4 / -4, with the remaining +1s from earlier ticket votes. We will describe the situation more clearly in the ticket and ask if anyone who voted +1 wishes to change their vote (adamw, 16:51:15)

  6. (2234928) Crashes on encryption passphrases with non-ASCII characters (adamw, 16:52:19)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2234928 (adamw, 16:52:42)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1200 (adamw, 16:52:42)
    3. Proposed Blocker, libblockdev, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:52:52)
    4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria#Custom_partitioning (kparal, 16:55:04)
    5. AGREED: 2234928 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of the Beta requirement "When using both the installer-native and the blivet-gui-based custom partitioning flow, the installer must be able to: ... Encrypt newly-created storage volumes", in the case that you include a non-ASCII character in the passphrase (which is easy to do). (adamw, 16:59:33)

  7. Proposed Beta freeze exception issues (adamw, 17:00:10)
  8. (2235392) libva-nvidia-driver should replace the nvidia-vaapi-driver rpmfusion package (adamw, 17:00:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2235392 (adamw, 17:00:30)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1221 (adamw, 17:00:30)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libva-nvidia-driver, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:00:30)
    4. https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=647 (geraldosimiao, 17:10:42)
    5. AGREED: 2235392 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - there really isn't sufficient justification provided for why this should happen during freeze. We're happy for this to be re-proposed with more justification. (adamw, 17:14:46)

  9. (2155256) pyodbc fails to build with Python 3.12: error: PyUnicode_FromUnicode was not declared in this scope (adamw, 17:15:12)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155256 (adamw, 17:15:13)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1215 (adamw, 17:15:13)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, pyodbc, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:15:13)
    4. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2213636 (adamw, 17:21:50)
    5. https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/pyodbc/4.0.39/2.fc39/data/logs/x86_64/root.log (adamw, 17:21:55)
    6. AGREED: 2155256 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as a fails-to-install bug, which we accept as FEs to ease the upgrade path unless there are any complications. (adamw, 17:24:38)

  10. Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:25:10)
  11. (2232398) [webui] Mount point assignment reports "Duplicate mount point." after deleting mapping (adamw, 17:25:34)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232398 (adamw, 17:25:34)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1177 (adamw, 17:25:34)
    3. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (adamw, 17:25:34)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+nielsenb, +kparal) (adamw, 17:25:34)
    5. Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+3,0,-0) (+tflink, +nielsenb, +geraldosimiao) (adamw, 17:25:36)
    6. AGREED: 2232398 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system and/or container format combination offered in a default installer configuration", read as applying to webUI's mount point assignment interface, in the case you need to re-do a mount point. (adamw, 17:34:46)

  12. (2189899) Blivet-GUI: A btrfs partition can't be reformatted (adamw, 17:34:57)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2189899 (adamw, 17:34:57)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1157 (adamw, 17:34:57)
    3. Proposed Blocker, blivet-gui, NEW (adamw, 17:34:57)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+nielsenb) (adamw, 17:34:57)
    5. AGREED: 2189899 - punt (delay decision) - this is a complex area and we're really not too sure how to handle this. it's an awkward experience but it is possible to work with it, and we don't know how practical it is to 'fix' this on the development side. so we'll delay the decision and ask anaconda/blivet devs to provide input on that part (adamw, 17:42:57)

  13. (2215739) Decimal separator on keypad doesn't respect regional formatting under Wayland (adamw, 17:43:09)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215739 (adamw, 17:43:09)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1162 (adamw, 17:43:09)
    3. Proposed Blocker, plasma-desktop, NEW (adamw, 17:43:09)
    4. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-3) (-nielsenb, -geraldosimiao, -kparal) (adamw, 17:43:09)
    5. AGREED: 2215739 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - we agree this is an annoying bug that should be fixed, but it doesn't really violate any release criterion, can be worked around by using the other key, and has already been the case for a while (adamw, 17:48:14)

  14. (2187858) sddm-wayland-plasma does not respect keyboard layout variant (adamw, 17:48:25)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2187858 (adamw, 17:48:25)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1158 (adamw, 17:48:25)
    3. Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:48:25)
    4. Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (adamw, 17:48:25)
    5. Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao, +nielsenb) (adamw, 17:48:26)
    6. AGREED: 2187858 - punt (delay decision) - this potentially looks like a blocker, but we would like to try and reproduce it definitively on Fedora 39 with a clear understanding of the distinction between "layouts" and "variants" (adamw, 18:07:01)


Meeting ended at 18:51:28 UTC (full logs).

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  6. coremodule (8)
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