f34-blocker-review
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#fedora-blocker-review: F34-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 17:01:12 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 17:01:14)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 17:11:57)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 17:12:07)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 17:12:14)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 17:12:19)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 17:12:24)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 17:12:28)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 17:12:33)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 17:12:37)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_34_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 17:12:42)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_34_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 17:12:46)
    10. for Beta, we have: (adamw, 17:13:03)
    11. 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 17:13:06)
    12. 3 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 17:13:06)
    13. 8 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 17:14:47)
    14. 12 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 17:14:55)
    15. for Final, we hae: (adamw, 17:15:07)
    16. 3 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 17:15:59)
    17. 5 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 17:16:00)

  3. Proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 17:18:20)
  4. (1931345) Version 'fedora-34-x86_64' is not supported by the Retrace server. (adamw, 17:18:33)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1931345 (adamw, 17:18:37)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/267 (adamw, 17:18:40)
    3. Proposed Blocker, abrt, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:18:45)
    4. AGREED: 1931345 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - as per precedent from last cycle, we only require at least one backtrace generation method (local or remote) to work per the criteria (adamw, 17:27:48)

  5. (1933397) gnome-control-center crashes when adding a new input source (adamw, 17:30:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933397 (adamw, 17:31:39)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/257 (adamw, 17:31:39)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW (adamw, 17:31:40)
    4. AGREED: 1933397 - punt (delay decision) - we would likely vote to accept this if it was reproducible, but no-one in the meeting can reproduce it. We will ask the reporter to test with latest packages and try to get more info if they can still produce the crash (adamw, 17:42:14)

  6. (1931070) sddm crashes with mesa-21 on VMware (adamw, 17:43:49)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1931070 (adamw, 17:43:55)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/236 (adamw, 17:44:00)
    3. Proposed Blocker, mesa, ON_QA (adamw, 17:44:06)
    4. AGREED: 1931070 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - it was generally felt this isn't going to affect enough people to constitute a conditional violation of "must boot to a working desktop", and VMware is not covered by the virtualization criteria (adamw, 17:53:55)

  7. (1930978) [abrt] xorg-x11-server-Xorg: System(): Xorg killed by SIGABRT (adamw, 17:54:11)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1930978 (adamw, 17:54:13)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/242 (adamw, 17:54:16)
    3. Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-server, NEW (adamw, 17:54:21)
    4. AGREED: 1930978 - punt (delay decision) - we're still waiting for pwhalen to confirm whether this is a dupe of 1930977 (adamw, 18:01:07)

  8. Proposed Beta freeze exceptions (adamw, 18:01:23)
  9. (1933628) kernel-modules-5.11.0-0.rc7.20210210gite0756cfc7d7c.150.fc34.x86_64 has depmod ERRORs (adamw, 18:01:31)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933628 (adamw, 18:01:38)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/268 (adamw, 18:01:42)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kernel, NEW (adamw, 18:01:47)
    4. AGREED: 1933628 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - we judged that this is not a significant enough issue to be worth the risk of a new kernel build on its own (adamw, 18:19:48)

  10. (1923464) libyui-mga-qt: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f34 (adamw, 18:19:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1923464 (adamw, 18:20:03)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/263 (adamw, 18:20:09)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libyui-mga-qt, ON_QA (adamw, 18:20:15)
    4. AGREED: 1923464 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted as a freeze exception because fixing FTBFS is good (adamw, 18:27:46)

  11. (1923465) libyui-ncurses: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f34 (adamw, 18:27:50)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1923465 (adamw, 18:27:56)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/264 (adamw, 18:28:00)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libyui-ncurses, ON_QA (adamw, 18:28:05)
    4. AGREED: 1923464 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - accepted as a freeze exception because fixing FTBFS is good (adamw, 18:32:06)

  12. (1923467) m2crypto: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f34 (adamw, 18:32:07)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1923467 (adamw, 18:32:08)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/253 (adamw, 18:32:09)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, m2crypto, ON_QA (adamw, 18:32:09)
    4. AGREED: 1923467 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - the proposed fix here is a version bump, the benefit of fixing FTBFS is minor and doesn't justify the risk of a version bump (adamw, 18:37:50)

  13. (1928546) SELinux is preventing gmain from 'watch' accesses on the directory /etc/gdm. (adamw, 18:38:41)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1928546 (adamw, 18:38:53)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/269 (adamw, 18:38:57)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, selinux-policy, POST (adamw, 18:39:02)
    4. AGREED: 1928546 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - as noted in the bug, this causes substantial waste of system resources during live sesssion / first login, definitely worth fixing (adamw, 18:43:47)

  14. (1933433) systemd-resolved: stub resolver is not following CNAME for resolution (adamw, 18:44:21)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933433 (adamw, 18:44:27)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/261 (adamw, 18:44:37)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, systemd, NEW (adamw, 18:44:41)
    4. AGREED: 1933433 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - we're not sure of the details here, but it seems like a serious enough issue to want to fix for lives/installer. However, if the proposed fix is too broad (e.g. an entire RC3 build) we may decide not to take it (adamw, 18:55:21)

  15. (1933454) /etc/resolv.conf is not a symlink (adamw, 18:57:58)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1933454 (adamw, 18:58:04)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/265 (adamw, 18:58:09)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, systemd, NEW (adamw, 18:58:13)
    4. AGREED: 1933454 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - it's clearly the case that the intended result in terms of resolv.conf is not happening, and that can't be fixed with an update and is definitely worth fixing (adamw, 19:08:04)

  16. Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 19:08:37)
  17. (1931345) Version 'fedora-34-x86_64' is not supported by the Retrace server. (adamw, 19:08:48)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1931345 (adamw, 19:08:53)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/267 (adamw, 19:08:57)
    3. Proposed Blocker, abrt, ASSIGNED (adamw, 19:09:02)
    4. AGREED: 1931345 - punt (delay decision) - it's a close call whether remote retrace not working should block final, and we don't have a lot of people around to make it, so we agreed to delay the decision until it's more pressing / more folks are around to consider it (adamw, 19:23:56)

  18. (1930401) No update notifications shown when updates available (F34, Rawhide) (adamw, 19:24:04)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1930401 (adamw, 19:24:10)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/234 (adamw, 19:24:16)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 19:24:21)
    4. AGREED: 1930401 - punt (delay decision) - we're still waiting on adamw to check the new heuristics and update the openQA test here (adamw, 19:28:31)

  19. (1930514) Plasma System Monitor don't show neither History nor System Stats (adamw, 19:28:38)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1930514 (adamw, 19:28:44)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/262 (adamw, 19:28:50)
    3. Proposed Blocker, plasma-systemmonitor, MODIFIED (adamw, 19:28:54)
    4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_34_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_application_functionality (adamw, 19:30:39)
    5. AGREED: 1930514 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - the cited criterion is qualified on KDE to only cover a limited range of application types, and the system monitor is not one of them (adamw, 19:37:48)

  20. Open floor (adamw, 19:37:55)


Meeting ended at 19:52:33 UTC (full logs).

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