========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F31-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:05 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2019-10-14/f31-blocker-review.2019-10-14-16.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:06) * Introduction (adamw, 16:05:27) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:05:28) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:05:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:05:30) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:05:31) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:05:33) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:05:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:05:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:05:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:05:41) * for F31 Final, we have: (adamw, 16:05:43) * 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:05:48) * 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:05:48) * 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:05:52) * 3 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:05:52) * coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:06:17) * let's start with proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:07:07) * (1761484) Update appstream-data after final freeze (adamw, 16:07:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761484 (adamw, 16:07:13) * Proposed Blocker, appstream-data, ON_QA (adamw, 16:07:13) * AGREED: 1761484 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted per precedent from the last few releases and the FESCo ticket. We will look at treating it as an automatic blocker for future releases (adamw, 16:13:02) * (1760937) dnf-yum in F30 is now higher versioned than F31+ yum's "Obsoletes" (affects upgrades) (adamw, 16:13:08) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1760937 (adamw, 16:13:08) * Proposed Blocker, dnf, NEW (adamw, 16:13:08) * AGREED: 1760937 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is a close call, but we accept it as a blocker as a violation of the Beta upgrade criterion, referencing the footnote "The upgraded system must include all packages that would be present on the system after a default installation from install media, plus any packages the user previously had (minus any obsolete content)" (adamw, 16:36:44) * (1758588) dnf system-upgrade reboot fails due to depresolv difference with download (adamw, 16:36:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1758588 (adamw, 16:36:54) * Proposed Blocker, dnf-plugins-extras, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:36:54) * AGREED: 1758588 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is rejected as we are not aware of any case where this problem affects one of the release-blocking F30 package sets, so it does not violate the criterion (adamw, 16:45:44) * (1750575) dnfdragora complains that dnf is locked by another process after updates (adamw, 16:45:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750575 (adamw, 16:45:53) * Proposed Blocker, libdnf, NEW (adamw, 16:45:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750575#c18 (adamw, 16:46:21) * AGREED: 1750575 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test" for dnfdragora, we hold that 'install some updates without printing a confusing error and quitting' is 'basic' functionality for an updater (adamw, 16:59:04) * Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:00:00) * let's review proposed Final FEs! (adamw, 17:00:06) * (1761327) "Object St.Button (0x5621e3249b90), has been already deallocated — impossible to get any property from it." spam in system logs (adamw, 17:00:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761327 (adamw, 17:00:13) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:00:13) * AGREED: 1761327 - punt (delay decision) - the bug here is relatively minor, and there are two different proposed fixes whose safety is not clear. we will punt to give the GNOME devs a chance to provide more info and clarity on the proposed fix here (adamw, 17:14:10) * (1759490) Fedora 31: Wayland: qtwebengine-based applications cannot be full screened (adamw, 17:14:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1759490 (adamw, 17:14:18) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, qt5-qtwayland, NEW (adamw, 17:14:18) * AGREED: 1759490 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - we don't see any convincing benefit to granting an FE here, the only case it would really help is someone installing a qtwebengine-based app in a Workstation live session, which seems like a pretty unusual scenario. We think it's fine for this to go as a regular update. (adamw, 17:18:52) * Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:20:14) * let's go over the accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:20:21) * we will consider all accepted blockers except those that are VERIFIED (adamw, 17:20:56) * (1747408) Cannot upgrade to Fedora 31: package exa-0.9.0-2.module_f31+5365+04413d87.x86_64 requires libgit2.so.28()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed (adamw, 17:21:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747408 (adamw, 17:21:03) * Accepted Blocker, fedora-release, NEW (adamw, 17:21:03) * this is accepted as a blocker per FESCo decision, but debate continues as to what would constitute an acceptable solution (adamw, 17:22:00) * fesco decided today to vote in https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2230 on whether the currently proposed solution - some text pointing to an 'upgrade guide' document to be shown at the time of running 'system-upgrade download' - is sufficient (adamw, 17:24:10) * this is more or less in the hands of FESCo and dnf devs at this point, we will continue to monitor (adamw, 17:28:06) * (1749433) enabled zoom stops sending mouse button events (adamw, 17:28:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749433 (adamw, 17:28:18) * Accepted Blocker, mutter, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:28:19) * the fix for this was very recently VERIFIED, so it should be good now (adamw, 17:30:05) * (1728240) Cannot start Fedora-KDE-Live (F31) in basic graphics mode on BIOS machine (adamw, 17:30:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1728240 (adamw, 17:30:12) * Accepted Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:30:12) * we are still waiting on the KDE team for a fix here (adamw, 17:31:45) * ACTION: adamw to poke KDE folks again and try to get some kind of fix ASAP (adamw, 17:31:58) * (1761484) Update appstream-data after final freeze (adamw, 17:38:09) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761484 (adamw, 17:38:09) * Proposed Blocker, appstream-data, ON_QA (adamw, 17:38:09) * this is straightforward, we just need to test the updated data and karma it (adamw, 17:38:21) * (1760937) dnf-yum in F30 is now higher versioned than F31+ yum's "Obsoletes" (affects upgrades) (adamw, 17:38:28) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1760937 (adamw, 17:38:28) * Proposed Blocker, dnf, NEW (adamw, 17:38:28) * this is also fairly simple, we just need a dnf maintainer or provenpackager to bump the version on the obsoletes and submit an update for testing (adamw, 17:38:43) * (1750575) dnfdragora complains that dnf is locked by another process after updates (adamw, 17:39:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750575 (adamw, 17:39:18) * Proposed Blocker, libdnf, NEW (adamw, 17:39:18) * we need dnfdragora and dnf developers to come up with a fix for this one (adamw, 17:43:39) * ACTION: adamw to ping dnfdragora and dnf developers to work on this urgently (adamw, 17:46:08) * ACTION: frantisekz to kidnap dnf developers and force them to fix all the bugs or else they have to read the modularity threads over and over again forever (adamw, 17:48:37) * Open floor (adamw, 17:50:24) Meeting ended at 17:55:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to poke KDE folks again and try to get some kind of fix ASAP * adamw to ping dnfdragora and dnf developers to work on this urgently * frantisekz to kidnap dnf developers and force them to fix all the bugs or else they have to read the modularity threads over and over again forever Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to poke KDE folks again and try to get some kind of fix ASAP * adamw to ping dnfdragora and dnf developers to work on this urgently * frantisekz * frantisekz to kidnap dnf developers and force them to fix all the bugs or else they have to read the modularity threads over and over again forever * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (235) * frantisekz (84) * lruzicka2 (83) * kparal (77) * coremodule (29) * kalev (20) * cmurf (15) * zodbot (15) * mkolman (9) * Southern_Gentlem (6) * mboddu (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot