f31-blocker-review
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#fedora-blocker-review: F31-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:44 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:44)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:06:18)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:06:18)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:18)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:06:20)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:20)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:06:23)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:06:24)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:26)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:28)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:30)
    10. for Beta, we have: (adamw, 16:07:06)
    11. 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:07)
    12. 3 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:07:08)
    13. 9 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:11)
    14. 2 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:11)
    15. for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:07:22)
    16. 2 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:22)
    17. let's get started with proposed Beta blockers! (adamw, 16:07:32)

  3. (1745933) TypeError: Argument 1 does not allow None as a value (adamw, 16:07:53)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1745933 (adamw, 16:07:54)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (adamw, 16:07:54)
    3. AGREED: 1745933 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - as described this appears to break several of the requirements in the Beta "Custom partitioning" criterion, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria#Custom_partitioning (adamw, 16:13:04)

  4. (1748003) Epiphany does not render anything on RaspberryPi 2 (adamw, 16:13:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1748003 (adamw, 16:13:15)
    2. Proposed Blocker, epiphany, NEW (adamw, 16:13:15)
    3. AGREED: 1748003 - punt (delay decision) - this and other bugs frantisekz has encountered on his raspberry pi 2 worry us, but we'd like to delay the decision on them for a bit while we do more triage with other testers and other systems to determine exactly what's going on (adamw, 16:23:06)

  5. (1746563) g-i-s fails to run after Workstation and Silverblue installs, even with SELinux permissive or disabled (adamw, 16:23:12)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1746563 (adamw, 16:23:12)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:23:12)
    3. AGREED: 1746563 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of Basic criterion "A system installed with a release-blocking desktop must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop using a user account created during installation or a 'first boot' utility" (adamw, 16:26:10)

  6. (1737471) Cannot pull images from registry.fedoraproject.org (adamw, 16:26:21)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1737471 (adamw, 16:26:21)
    2. Proposed Blocker, golang, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:26:21)
    3. AGREED: 1737471 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - we agreed that while the criterion is still being kicked around we don't think this absolutely needs to block Beta, we will re-consider it for Beta or Final blocker if it's still a problem when the criterion is decided. Accepted as a freeze exception issue, however, as it is a significant problem we should try to avoid (adamw, 16:38:25)

  7. (1745846) Review Request: f31-backgrounds - Fedora 31 default desktop background (adamw, 16:39:03)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1745846 (adamw, 16:39:03)
    2. Proposed Blocker, Package Review, POST (adamw, 16:39:03)
    3. AGREED: 1745846 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this kinda comes under the already-accepted #1744266, but as it's been proposed separately, we accept it under "The default desktop background must be different from that of the last two stable releases" (adamw, 16:42:58)

  8. (1748401) systemd: need freeze exception for F31 beta (adamw, 16:43:11)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1748401 (adamw, 16:43:11)
    2. Proposed Blocker, systemd, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:43:11)
    3. AGREED: 1748401 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this needs to be fixed as part of the fix for already-accepted #1744266 (adamw, 16:50:33)

  9. proposed Beta freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:50:50)
    1. let's do the proposed Beta FEs next, as we're in the Beta freeze (adamw, 16:50:57)

  10. (1718430) RPM 4.15 (adamw, 16:51:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1718430 (adamw, 16:51:02)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, Changes Tracking, ON_QA (adamw, 16:51:02)
    3. AGREED: the meeting hereby recognizes that sgallagh has invoked the sacred Right To Say I Told You So and will follow the traditional protocols (adamw, 16:56:01)
    4. AGREED: 1718430 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is obviously a major and potentially disruptive change, but we're willing to accept it as a) it's a Change, b) it's still quite early in Beta freeze and c) the update was submitted before the initial freeze date (but after the suddenly-changed one) (adamw, 17:01:03)

  11. (1737530) python2-fedmsg fails to install due to missing Python 2 dependencies (adamw, 17:01:23)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1737530 (adamw, 17:01:24)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedmsg, ON_QA (adamw, 17:01:24)
    3. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1347980 looks alive... (sgallagh, 17:04:02)
    4. AGREED: 1737530 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave the update process to handle it (adamw, 17:12:08)

  12. (1747436) lots of python2 packages should be obsoleted (adamw, 17:12:19)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747436 (adamw, 17:12:19)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-obsolete-packages, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:12:19)
    3. AGREED: 1747436 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - pushing this will solve a lot of problems on upgrade to Fedora 31 Beta, so it's worth an FE (adamw, 17:15:48)

  13. (1747415) mu cannot be installed: nothing provides python3.7dist(matplotlib) < 3.1 needed by mu-1.0.2-3.fc31 (adamw, 17:16:05)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747415 (adamw, 17:16:05)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, mu, ON_QA (adamw, 17:16:05)
    3. AGREED: 1747415 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it prevents the creation of a deliverable (the Python Classroom Lab) (adamw, 17:18:55)

  14. (1746364) applying cgroup configuration for process caused \"mountpoint for devices not found\"": OCI runtime error (adamw, 17:19:05)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1746364 (adamw, 17:19:05)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, podman, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:19:05)
    3. AGREED: 1746364 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a significant problem in a component that is important these days (though not yet release-blocking), and affects implementation of an approved Change (adamw, 17:24:58)

  15. (1739922) python2-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure fails to install in Fedora rawhide (adamw, 17:25:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1739922 (adamw, 17:25:13)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure, ON_QA (adamw, 17:25:13)
    3. AGREED: 1739922 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave the update process to handle it (adamw, 17:33:45)

  16. (1739928) python2-tw2-jqplugins-ui fails to install in Fedora rawhide (adamw, 17:36:26)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1739928 (adamw, 17:36:27)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-tw2-jqplugins-ui, ON_QA (adamw, 17:36:27)
    3. AGREED: 1739928 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave the update process to handle it. Note it was not submitted for stable before the old freeze date (adamw, 17:40:14)

  17. (1739929) python2-tw2-jquery fails to install in Fedora 31 (adamw, 17:40:20)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1739929 (adamw, 17:40:21)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-tw2-jquery, ON_QA (adamw, 17:40:21)
    3. AGREED: 1739929 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave the update process to handle it. Note it was not submitted for stable before the old freeze date (adamw, 17:42:51)

  18. (1746584) GNOME systemd session start fails due to SELinux denial: denied { start } for auid=n/a uid=XXX gid=XXX path="/usr/lib/systemd/user/gnome-session-wayland@.target" (adamw, 17:43:07)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1746584 (adamw, 17:43:08)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, selinux-policy, POST (adamw, 17:43:08)
    3. AGREED: 1746584 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - it is not entirely clear what the consequences of this failing are due to the other g-i-s bug, but it is clearly a case of the default Workstation install path not behaving as intended so we ought to fix it (adamw, 17:45:01)

  19. (1748463) GNOME 3.33.92 megaupdate should go in beta (adamw, 17:45:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1748463 (adamw, 17:45:15)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:45:15)
    3. AGREED: 1748463 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - we accept 3.33.92 as an FE for Beta in principle, so long as an update arrives in reasonable time and passes sufficient tests prior to landing (adamw, 17:53:19)

  20. proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:55:36)
  21. (1747404) nomodeset is missing on installed system even if installed with basic video driver (adamw, 17:56:33)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747404 (adamw, 17:56:33)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:56:33)
    3. AGREED: 1747404 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "The generic video driver option ('basic graphics mode'...) on all release-blocking installer and live images must function as intended (launching the installer or desktop and attempting to use a generic driver)...", and as a Beta freeze exception as a significant installer issue worth fixing (adamw, 18:09:51)

  22. (1747845) failure to resume gdm after blanking (when backlight goes off) (adamw, 18:10:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747845 (adamw, 18:10:01)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gdm, NEW (adamw, 18:10:01)
    3. AGREED: 1747845 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - as currently described we accept this as a Final blocker under criterion cited in comment #2, and as a Beta freeze exception as a significant bug that can be encountered immediately after install and so not fully fixable with an update (adamw, 18:17:50)

  23. Open floor (adamw, 18:19:01)
    1. belated note: coremodule is secretarializing (adamw, 18:22:44)


Meeting ended at 18:25:29 UTC (full logs).

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