========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F30-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:49 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2019-03-25/f30-blocker-review.2019-03-25-16.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:49) * Introduction (adamw, 16:08:27) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:08:27) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:08:27) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:08:29) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:08:29) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:08:31) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:08:33) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_30_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_30_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:39) * for Beta we have: (adamw, 16:09:48) * 0 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:09:49) * 1 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:09:54) * 6 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:58) * 5 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:58) * for Final we have: (adamw, 16:10:13) * 5 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:14) * 3 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:14) * as Beta release is the key right now, we'll start with the Bet accepted blocker (adamw, 16:11:41) * coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:12:14) * (1690566) Arm desktops do not have a browser (adamw, 16:12:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1690566 (adamw, 16:12:31) * Accepted Blocker, spin-kickstarts, ON_QA (adamw, 16:12:31) * this is reported fixed by pwhalen, so we will close it (adamw, 16:13:44) * moving onto proposed Beta FEs just in case we do respin for any other reason (adamw, 16:17:31) * (1691909) GDM fallback from Wayland to X11 no longer works because it takes too long to start gnome-shell (affects 'basic graphics mode' / nomodeset, maybe other cases) (adamw, 16:18:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1691909 (adamw, 16:18:45) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gdm, NEW (adamw, 16:18:45) * AGREED: #1691909 - delay decision (punt) - in general folks seemed to feel they couldn't vote on this without a clearer understanding of what a possible fix might look like (adamw, 16:30:46) * (1691674) searching for language causes gnome-control-center to crash (adamw, 16:30:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1691674 (adamw, 16:30:54) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-control-center, NEW (adamw, 16:30:55) * AGREED: 1691674 / 1685251 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a fairly prominent crasher that is visible in the live image and so cannot be fixed with an update. Note we will close the bug as a duplicate of the earlier 1685251 (which has a backtrace) and mark that as accepted. (adamw, 16:36:03) * (1690429) sometimes icon not showing for eg firefox in gnome-shell overview dash (adamw, 16:36:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1690429 (adamw, 16:36:53) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:36:53) * AGREED: 1690429 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a very visible issue in core functionality of the default desktop, affects lives so cannot be fully fixed with an update (adamw, 16:43:09) * (1692132) mu doesn't install, blocks Python Classroom Lab image build (adamw, 16:44:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1692132 (adamw, 16:44:32) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, mu, ON_QA (adamw, 16:44:32) * this is an automatic FE per " Bugs which entirely prevent the composition of one or more of the non-release-blocking images required to be built for a currently-pending (pre-)release" - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process#Automatic_freeze_exceptions (adamw, 16:44:58) * will be accepted (adamw, 16:45:03) * (1688082) [ko] Hangul input does not commit in Terminal, Firefox urlbar, Libreoffice (adamw, 16:45:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1688082 (adamw, 16:45:18) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, mutter, POST (adamw, 16:45:18) * AGREED: 1688082 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - input not working in major applications is obviously a serious bug, and affects live image so cannot be fully fixed with an update (adamw, 16:51:27) * (1683197) gdm Fails to load with "nomodeset" (adamw, 16:51:33) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1683197 (adamw, 16:51:33) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, xorg-x11-drv-qxl, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:51:33) * AGREED: 1683197 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is sufficiently serious to accept as an FE (and cannot be fixed with an update), but any fix may be dangerous so we may not ultimately decide to pull one in if the situation arises (adamw, 16:59:48) * moving onto proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:00:49) * (1691909) GDM fallback from Wayland to X11 no longer works because it takes too long to start gnome-shell (affects 'basic graphics mode' / nomodeset, maybe other cases) (adamw, 17:02:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1691909 (adamw, 17:02:12) * Proposed Blocker, gdm, NEW (adamw, 17:02:12) * AGREED: 1691909 - punt (delay decision) - this issue affects 'basic graphics' on BIOS, so in part we are delaying the decision to after we decide whether the 'basic graphics' criterion will continue to apply to Final. we also want to look further into what other cases still rely on the X11 fallback (adamw, 17:13:10) * (1683197) gdm Fails to load with "nomodeset" (adamw, 17:14:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1683197 (adamw, 17:14:03) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-qxl, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:14:03) * AGREED: 1683197 - punt (delay decision) - this bug is specifically about the 'basic graphics' boot option failing, so we cannot make a decision on it until the fate of the relevant criterion is decided (whether it is kept as a Final criterion or not) (adamw, 17:17:33) * (1690429) sometimes icon not showing for eg firefox in gnome-shell overview dash (adamw, 17:17:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1690429 (adamw, 17:17:38) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:17:38) * AGREED: 1690429 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a blocker as a violation of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical use" (adamw, 17:30:19) * (1688082) [ko] Hangul input does not commit in Terminal, Firefox urlbar, Libreoffice (adamw, 17:30:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1688082 (adamw, 17:30:29) * Proposed Blocker, mutter, POST (adamw, 17:30:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1632981#c8 (adamw, 17:33:04) * AGREED: 1688082 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a blocker on the same basis the equivalent F29 bug (#1632981) was accepted: it violates the "basic functionality test" criterion when affected input methods are used, certainly including Korean and likely also affecting some Chinese IMs (adamw, 17:38:03) * (1692323) qemu crashes with virgl enabled on some GPUs (adamw, 17:38:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1692323 (adamw, 17:38:10) * Proposed Blocker, qemu, NEW (adamw, 17:38:10) * AGREED: 1692323 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a *Beta* blocker as a violation of Beta criterion "The release must be able host virtual guest instances of the same release", given that it affects the default config of the default virt app on the default desktop (adamw, 17:51:04) * Open flood (adamw, 17:53:21) * Open floor (adamw, 17:53:28) * as there is a blocker we will fix it and run a new compose, mboddu and I will decide what FE fixes to pull in (adamw, 18:01:39) * go/no-go will be Thursday (adamw, 18:01:45) Meeting ended at 18:01:48 UTC. 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