========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F28-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:27 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2018-04-09/f28-blocker-review.2018-04-09-16.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:27) * Introduction (adamw, 16:06:41) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:06:41) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:41) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:06:41) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:42) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:06:44) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:06:46) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:50) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:52) * 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:06:56) * 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:06:58) * 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:02) * 2 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:04) * coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:07:06) * (1560481) Some core applications in Gnome 3.28 are unresponsive and not working on AMD graphics cards (adamw, 16:07:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1560481 (adamw, 16:07:25) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:07:25) * AGREED: 1560481 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation of "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test" on all or many AMD graphics cards (adamw, 16:13:21) * (1555292) Fedora Workstation Live can't resume after suspend when booted from DVD connected via an external drive (adamw, 16:13:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1555292 (adamw, 16:13:31) * Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:13:32) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/42#comment-504425 (kparal, 16:14:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/42#comment-504425 (kparal, 16:14:54) * AGREED: 1555292 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - Workstation WG voted today to disable auto-suspend for F28 Final: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/42 . As this was proposed as a blocker due to the auto-suspend behaviour and that will be taken out, we no longer have any grounds to accept it (adamw, 16:19:12) * (1562743) F27 to F28 upgrade fails due to libkolab (adamw, 16:19:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562743 (adamw, 16:19:37) * Proposed Blocker, libkolab, ON_QA (adamw, 16:19:37) * LINK: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/217798 didn't hit it (adamw, 16:23:45) * AGREED: 1562743 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is rejected as a blocker as the affected package is not in any default release-blocking package set install. However it's accepted as an FE as it is fairly commonly installed and we would like to avoid use of --allowerasing as much as possible. (adamw, 16:29:38) * (1561763) KDE live image for Fedora 28 is oversize (adamw, 16:30:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1561763 (adamw, 16:30:30) * Proposed Blocker, LiveCD - KDE, NEW (adamw, 16:30:30) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/46 (kalev, 16:31:57) * AGREED: 1561763 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation of current Beta criterion "The release-blocking images must meet current size requirements", with a note that this would still be a blocker under the current proposed revision to that criterion (adamw, 16:36:03) * (1564210) 18.0.0-3.fc28 build causes llvmpipe fallback on GNOME (Wayland) (adamw, 16:36:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1564210 (adamw, 16:36:07) * Proposed Blocker, mesa, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:36:07) * AGREED: 1564210 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test", as this is reported to break Totem and Cheese (adamw, 16:41:29) * (1563674) Nautilus silently fails to delete non-empty directories on Samba share (adamw, 16:41:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1563674 (adamw, 16:41:49) * Proposed Blocker, samba, NEW (adamw, 16:41:50) * AGREED: 1563674 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - while this is unfortunate, we agree that it's too much of a stretch to define it as "basic functionality" of nautilus, there are obvious workarounds, and it can be substantially addressed with an update (adamw, 16:51:03) * moving onto accepted blockers (there are no proposed FEs outstanding now) (adamw, 16:52:09) * (1561768) Requires python-smbios, which doesn't exist (adamw, 16:52:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1561768 (adamw, 16:52:18) * Accepted Blocker, firmware-addon-dell, NEW (adamw, 16:52:18) * LINK: https://github.com/dell/firmware-addon-dell (adamw, 16:54:48) * as no-one seems keen to work on resolving this ATM, adamw will send a PR to drop it from comps, which will make it no longer a blocking issue (adamw, 16:56:46) * (1557655) FCoE install fails to boot, stops at "Failed to start udev Wait for Complete Device Initialization" (adamw, 16:57:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1557655 (adamw, 16:57:38) * Accepted Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:57:38) * this has just been kicked to the kernel team (adamw, 16:58:47) * ACTION: adamw to check in with kernel team (adamw, 17:00:21) * the other accepted blockers seem to be moving along acceptably (adamw, 17:03:11) * Open floor (adamw, 17:03:17) Meeting ended at 17:06:27 UTC. 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