16:00:03 #startmeeting F22-blocker-review 16:00:03 Meeting started Mon Apr 6 16:00:03 2015 UTC. The chair is roshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:03 #meetingname F22-blocker-review 16:00:03 The meeting name has been set to 'f22-blocker-review' 16:00:03 #topic Roll Call 16:00:08 ahoy 16:00:11 who's around for some blocker review! 16:00:14 ? 16:01:00 #chair adamw 16:01:00 Current chairs: adamw roshi 16:01:11 * satellit listening 16:01:36 .hello sgallagh 16:01:36 * nirik is lurking around 16:01:39 sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' 16:02:01 #chair nirik sgallagh 16:02:01 Current chairs: adamw nirik roshi sgallagh 16:02:16 there, now you can lurk from a chair - much more comfortable 16:02:30 /me prefers to lurk in the shadows 16:02:51 so move the chair back to the shadows - it's not bolted down 16:03:08 sheesh, give a guy a chair and he whines that it's in the wrong place 16:03:15 :) 16:03:19 :p 16:03:26 alright, boilerplate 16:03:28 #topic Introduction 16:03:28 Why are we here? 16:03:28 #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. 16:03:32 #info We'll be following the process outlined at: 16:03:35 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 16:03:37 #info The bugs up for review today are available at: 16:03:40 #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current 16:03:42 #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: 16:03:45 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Alpha_Release_Criteria 16:03:48 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria 16:03:51 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Final_Release_Criteria 16:04:22 alright, beta blockers - we have 8 proposed 16:04:26 first up: 16:04:27 #topic (1185117) Custom partitioning does not allow convenient removal of volume including snapshots (btrfs, LVM) 16:04:30 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1185117 16:04:32 #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW 16:04:41 custom is blocking? 16:04:42 * tflink is late and lurking 16:04:45 * nirik reads bug 16:05:09 * amita is late 16:06:07 hola, still putting out fires 16:06:34 we have some criteria for custom at beta, yeah. 16:07:10 this was previously approved, anaconda team disagreed and wanted it re-evaluated. 16:07:37 there's some discussion on the ML too. 16:08:11 i'm ok with -1 on the basis that this isn't really a bugfix exactly, but extending anaconda to cover a case it currently doesn't. it's not like we have code for this and it's broken. 16:08:13 * nirik will abstain. I don't think I have time to read all the discussion here. 16:08:17 Purely based on the likelihood (or lack thereof) of this situation being encountered, I'm -1 blocker 16:08:59 sgallagh: eh, i think anaconda are kinda overstating that. as cmurf says you can hit it just installing Fedora over a stock openSUSE install. 16:09:03 Also, given that the anaconda folks have asserted that addressing such a thing at this point is a non-starter, doing otherwise seems like shooting ourselves in the foot. 16:09:08 yeah 16:09:08 (since SUSE uses btrfs snaphots ootb now.) 16:09:20 and it works in guided w/o a problem? 16:09:44 roshi: yeah, because guided is more about removing actual partitions than parsing them into 'volumes' that are part of OSes. 16:10:16 I just wouldn't think that guided could do something that manual couldn't 16:11:01 comment #18 has solid points 16:11:12 I can't really argue with the logic there 16:11:21 eh, it's just a happenstance because somewhat different approaches happen to make sense for guided vs. custom 16:11:45 i think i'm about halfway between cmurf and anaconda team. 16:12:18 I'm closer to cmurf than anaconda 16:12:28 I'm closer to anaconda than cmurf 16:12:36 Can we split the difference with +1 FE? :) 16:12:45 not being able to remove a 'volume' in the technical sense of a particular storage technology isn't really a big deal, as I said, when the criteria say 'volume' they're using it in a vaguer, less technical sense. (i.e. it shouldn't be a blocker than you can't explicitly delete a VG). 16:12:59 sgallagh: i don't think FE is appropriate or useful here 16:13:15 adamw: I feel the same way about "blocker", considering that no one is planning to work on it. 16:13:22 we wouldn't want to be dumping in a major change to partitioning as an FE, and given that anaconda team says they won't be able to get it done in time anyway... 16:13:56 sgallagh: well, the question is do we believe this is a big enough issue and a clear enough violation of criteria that we should kick off an argument with anaconda about it, drag it into fesco, etc. 16:13:59 so, i'm saying -1 for now. 16:14:00 I think it's just as cmurf said. it's a reasonable blocker considering the criteria, just an impractical given the timeframe 16:14:21 If the people who need to do the work say they can't do it in F22, then making it a blocker is just declaring F22 delayed for no good purpose. 16:15:13 And if it's a major partitioning change, sanity tells me that this should happen before Alpha 16:15:17 I think it's a violation of the criteria, and hence a blocker - but I don't know that we could get anywhere with it and anaconda has said as much 16:15:20 For time to shake things out 16:16:42 so, not sure what to do with this one 16:16:49 i'm actually ok with -1 per the criteria. you *can* remove the devices. it's just troublesome. 16:17:06 but noting that it's not an issue of technically blockery-ish, but other factors 16:18:41 3k clicks I think hits squarely on the "reduces test coverage" catch all 16:18:49 but this is academic 16:18:53 if you want a different argument, we can say it's a conditional violation but we don't think there are enough scenarios where snapshotting is likely to be used that we consider it a blocker. 16:19:02 roshi: where are you getting 3k clicks from? 16:19:17 a weak -1 because it's potentially "possible" to do and other factors 16:19:27 first comment 16:19:36 4 clicks to delete a mount point 16:19:49 and 40 instances with 19 mount points each 16:20:09 in #c18 he said 56, so, i dunno. 16:20:17 * nirik thinks if you are doing that in the gui instead of ks you are... 16:20:17 my opensuse install doesn't have 19 mount points. 16:20:23 anyhow 16:20:42 let's just write something down and move on, it seems clear we're not going to take a heroic stand on this one. 16:22:12 proposed #agreed "This is a conditional violation of the criterion "must be able to remove volumes", but it is an uncommon situation and too technically complex to resolve in Fedora 22" 16:22:22 sure, wfm. 16:22:27 proposed #agreed - 1185117 - RejectedBlocker Beta - This bug doesn't technically violate the criterion, it's just burdensome to execute with manual partitioning. Not many people will run into this... 16:22:33 ok, stopping my typing :) 16:22:37 ack 16:22:38 * adamw would ack either. 16:23:08 proposed #agreed - 1185117 - RejectedBlocker Beta - This is a conditional violation of the criterion "must be able to remove volumes", but it is an uncommon situation and too technically complex to resolve in Fedora 22 16:23:09 (formatting correction) 16:24:43 ack 16:24:45 ship it 16:24:56 ack 16:25:09 sure 16:25:55 did anyone volunteer to secretarialize yet? 16:26:02 no 16:26:03 sgallagh: you have chair, you can #agreed. 16:26:04 nope 16:26:05 i'll do it, then 16:26:10 #agreed - 1185117 - RejectedBlocker Beta - This is a conditional violation of the criterion "must be able to remove volumes", but it is an uncommon situation and too technically complex to resolve in Fedora 22 16:26:22 next! 16:26:27 it's become procedure to not get secretary until after the first bug is discussed 16:26:30 :p 16:26:30 #topic (1206472) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'set_focus_vadjustment' 16:26:34 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1206472 16:26:36 #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST 16:28:05 so this is any install using proxy? 16:28:12 looks like it 16:28:19 * roshi finds an exact criteria 16:28:30 yeah, seems pretty blockery to me off hand 16:28:54 Yeah, I'm prepared to call this a blocker even without official criteria :) 16:29:08 +1 under "When using the dedicated installer images, the installer must be able to use HTTP, FTP and NFS repositories as package sources." w/ proxy 16:29:17 +1 blocker 16:29:17 +1 blocker 16:29:21 +1 16:29:27 from the post, sounds like a fix is hopefully in hand too? 16:29:33 Yeah 16:29:53 It's in POST, so presumably that means a patch is waiting for the next build 16:29:57 proposed #agreed - 1206472 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - This bug is a clear violation of the following criteria when using a proxy: "When using the dedicated installer images, the installer must be able to use HTTP, FTP and NFS repositories as package sources." 16:30:13 Ack 16:30:14 ack 16:30:14 ack 16:30:20 #agreed - 1206472 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - This bug is a clear violation of the following criteria when using a proxy: "When using the dedicated installer images, the installer must be able to use HTTP, FTP and NFS repositories as package sources." 16:30:28 #topic (1208979) LUKSError: luks device not configured 16:30:28 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208979 16:30:28 #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW 16:31:27 * nirik reads. 16:31:51 eh, feels final-ish to me. 16:32:05 yeah, again in custom... 16:32:07 nirik: re-use an existing encrypted root. 16:32:16 but I agree it shouldn't crash... 16:32:40 +1 FE, for a fix that anaconda team says is safe. 16:32:44 (if there is one). 16:33:10 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria#Custom_partitioning 16:33:42 i'd say call it a conditional violation of "Assign mount points to existing storage volumes" and say we decided it's appropriate for Final. 16:33:44 yeah, I'm +1 FE... 16:33:55 adamw: Seems reasonable 16:34:02 so beta FE and final blocker? 16:34:08 that'd be my vote 16:34:13 yeah, for me 16:34:15 I don't think this is really a "newly created" storage volume 16:34:24 it's a reformat of an existing one 16:34:52 yeah, he cited the wrong bit of the criterion, but doesn't really matter. 16:35:03 anyhow, yes, +1 FE, +1 final. 16:35:15 Ditto, +1 FE, +1 Final Blocker 16:35:47 proposed #agreed - 1208979 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta AcceptedBlocker Final - This bug conditionally violates the custom partition criterion for final but we would accept a fix for Beta during freeze. 16:36:09 Ack 16:36:12 ack 16:37:47 #agreed - 1208979 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta AcceptedBlocker Final - This bug conditionally violates the custom partition criterion for final but we would accept a fix for Beta during freeze. 16:37:53 #topic (1209140) Upgrades from Fedora 21 break tomcat service 16:37:53 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209140 16:37:54 #info Proposed Blocker, dogtag-pki, NEW 16:38:15 I'm withdrawing my blocker nomination here. 16:38:33 Nothing to see here, move along :) 16:38:39 cool. ;) 16:38:51 wfm 16:39:08 blockers that magically get fixed are great. ;) 16:39:37 Aren't they? 16:39:42 #agreed - This bug isn't a blocker any more, nomination withdrawn. 16:39:45 #topic (1164492) Please drop libvirt 'default' network dependency for F22 16:39:48 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164492 16:39:51 #info Proposed Blocker, gnome-boxes, NEW 16:39:57 sgallagh: find more like those :p 16:41:22 oh, this ol' chestnut. 16:41:33 sure, +1 as per f21 16:41:35 old bug back from the dead. 16:41:37 let's give this a recurring +1 16:41:40 yeah, +1 16:41:53 nirik: it's not exactly 'back from the dead', it's more that we have to do a dodge around it each release until someone comes up with a better idea 16:41:59 right 16:42:24 wfm 16:42:48 where is the actual action here? 16:42:52 in boxes? 16:43:24 libvirt, iirc. 16:43:26 proposed #agreed - 1164492 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - We're reaffirming this bugs status from F21 to F22. The end result of this bug is bad enough that it warrants blocker status to get the fix in for beta. 16:43:34 oh no, that's right, boxes 16:43:42 so the lives don't have the libvirt default network set up 16:43:48 ack 16:43:55 we should make sure and ping boxes folks, they might not be aware this is blocking us. ;) 16:43:56 ack 16:44:15 ack, I guess 16:44:24 #agreed - 1164492 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - We're reaffirming this bugs status from F21 to F22. The end result of this bug is bad enough that it warrants blocker status to get the fix in for beta. 16:44:27 I'll have a chat with them; I think I might have an idea how to actually *fix* the problem 16:44:40 that'd be good 16:44:44 thanks sgallagh 16:44:45 #topic (1205534) gnome-initial-setup crashes upon selecting language 16:44:49 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205534 16:44:51 #info Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW 16:45:06 * adamw had this open in firefox all week and never got around to trying to reproduce it 16:45:22 did anyone else? 16:45:32 not i 16:45:43 * roshi reads 16:46:09 I didn't 16:46:15 should test with TC8 16:46:30 defer until I can reproduce this and then vote in bug? 16:46:37 * roshi starts a workstation download 16:47:25 yeah, punt for reproducing. 16:47:29 if no-one can reproduce, -1. 16:47:33 ack 16:47:44 yeah. 16:47:54 been like 10 days since the reporter said anything there... 16:48:01 you would think others would have hit it before now. 16:48:18 yeah,. 16:48:19 proposed #agreed - 1205534 - Punt - Waiting until someone can reproduce and then will discuss in comments. 16:48:29 so i'm not overly worried, but i really will try and get to it this week... 16:48:36 mayhap I'll get this done by the end of the meeting 16:48:57 /me is also downloading TC8 16:49:59 acks? 16:50:04 ack 16:50:08 ack 16:50:08 #agreed - 1205534 - Punt - Waiting until someone can reproduce and then will discuss in comments. 16:50:22 #topic (1146232) No network connection in virtual guest when libvirt in the guest tries to use the same IP address range as the host (still can occur when live image used to deploy both host and guest) 16:50:26 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1146232 16:50:29 #info Proposed Blocker, libvirt, NEW 16:50:39 is this the same as the previous one? 16:51:00 it's the parent, more or less. 16:51:03 i don't think we need both as blockers 16:51:08 lemme see if cole's around to join us 16:51:26 yeah, this is the longer term fix it right one? 16:51:35 in which case it shouldn't be a blocker probibly. 16:51:40 * adamw pinged him 16:52:50 * roshi gives him a minute 16:52:56 hi cole! 16:52:58 adamw: hey 16:53:13 crobinso: we're just wondering if both this bug (#1146232) and #1164492 need to block beta 16:53:21 or if beta is OK if we just take the 'fix' for 1164492 16:54:14 adamw: only the boxes one should be a blocked IMO 16:54:20 so 1164492 16:55:01 the libvirt issue is tracking the 'proper' fix but until it exists we aren't sure how it's even going to work, or how maintainable it is, etc. 16:55:06 ok, so -1. 16:55:16 WFM. -1 16:55:22 -1 it is 16:56:04 proposed #agreed - 1146232 - RejectedBlocker Beta - This bug is already covered under RHBZ#1164492 and doesn't need to be listed as another blocker. 16:56:20 ack 16:57:05 ack 16:57:33 #agreed - 1146232 - RejectedBlocker Beta - This bug is already covered under RHBZ#1164492 and doesn't need to be listed as another blocker. 16:57:37 last beta one 16:57:43 #topic (1208536) Problems recognizing BIOS RAID devices 16:57:43 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208536 16:57:43 #info Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, POST 16:58:09 i'm working through this with mulhern, basically everything i hit until we actually get a successful fw raid install is going to wind up on this bug 16:58:47 +1 for this 16:59:02 the raid trail of tears. ;) 16:59:26 +1 16:59:54 proposed #agreed - 1208536 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - This bug is a clear violation of the Beta raid criterion: "The installer must be able to detect and install to hardware or firmware RAID storage devices." 17:00:02 ack 17:00:06 nothing like bugs that procreate like rabbits... 17:00:49 roshi: I think it's more "whack-a-mole", but yeah. +1 and ack 17:01:16 * roshi notes sgallagh is more comfortable whacking moles than baby rabbits 17:01:21 ack 17:01:38 #agreed - 1208536 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - This bug is a clear violation of the Beta raid criterion: "The installer must be able to detect and install to hardware or firmware RAID storage devices." 17:01:56 onto the FEs? 17:02:10 sure 17:02:32 sure 17:02:41 * roshi is testing 1205534 now 17:02:47 Ditto 17:02:49 #topic (1208863) I got gdm after g-i-s is finished. The original session doesn't exit. 17:02:52 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1208863 17:02:55 #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-initial-setup, NEW 17:04:08 if this is reproducible it seems FE-y for sure 17:04:15 roshi: Ditto, my g-i-s worked fine 17:04:29 if your g-i-s doesn't crash can you see if you hit this bug? :) 17:04:43 does the power down list a warning? or does it prevent you from powering down at all? 17:05:06 I do indeed 17:05:16 I can verify this, yes 17:05:34 nirik: It lists a warning that another user is logged in 17:05:44 lang selection didn't crash anything for me 17:05:45 right. So, really I am not sure how critical this is... 17:05:48 It still allows you to shut down 17:05:54 I'm inclined to say -1 FE 17:06:05 There's no good reason to worry about it during freeze 17:06:11 german translation on buttosn has some quirks though, that's for sure... 17:06:23 yeah. 17:06:43 /me reiterates his opinion that the German language evolved from an excess of ink. 17:06:50 i dunno, it seems like it'd be good to make it work the way it's supposed to. 17:07:07 adamw: I'm not saying don't do it. I'm saying it's not worth breaking freeze to fix it 17:07:33 (noting that every GDM change historically introduces two unintended consequences) 17:07:37 we could always not take the fix, but... seems like we wouldn't want to destablize gdm or g-i-s any anyhow 17:07:40 finishing install to see if I have this issue as well 17:10:52 configuring installled system... 17:13:13 gdm is still running in tty1 17:13:23 tty3 is where my user gets logged into though 17:13:55 so, I can reproduce 17:14:49 this bug isn't 'gdm still running' 17:14:58 this bug is 'g-i-s doesn't hand off to a logged-in user session after creating a user' 17:14:59 (afaics) 17:15:23 yeah 17:15:33 it keeps you logged in there as well 17:15:36 anyhow, i'm a mild +1 but don't mind if you all go -1. 17:16:20 it seems kinda polishy... doesn't really cause any doom, just a warning. 17:16:25 I'm going -1 simply because it's not harmful 17:16:32 And any change made to GDM might be 17:16:35 yeah 17:16:41 -1 to breaking freeze 17:17:32 proposed #agreed - 1208863 - RejectedFreezeException - This bug doesn't cause any actual *harm*, so not worth breaking freeze for. 17:17:38 Ack 17:17:44 ack 17:17:56 #agreed - 1208863 - RejectedFreezeException - This bug doesn't cause any actual *harm*, so not worth breaking freeze for. 17:18:14 #topic (1204677) CVE-2015-2331 php: libzip: integer overflow when processing ZIP archives [fedora-all] 17:18:17 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1204677 17:18:21 #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libzip, ON_QA 17:18:32 oh php. 17:19:14 /me wonders why "running PHP" isn't a CVE on its own... 17:19:16 also, don't forget to vote in 1205534 - which I couldn't reproduce 17:19:27 this is a 'important' level security bug... 17:19:35 so I guess it's +1 by the policy? 17:19:40 sgallagh: heh. CVE-1998:2030 php: PHP 17:19:42 or is that only final? 17:19:44 Yeah +1 17:19:46 afaict 17:19:48 +1 17:19:49 adamw: I'm so filing it. 17:20:06 +1 17:20:27 proposed #agreed - 1204677 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta - It would be good to get this fix in despite freeze. 17:20:32 ack 17:20:33 Ack 17:20:48 #agreed - 1204677 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta - It would be good to get this fix in despite freeze. 17:20:51 #topic (1207079) Shortcut for ksnapshot don't work with kde5 (plasma5) 17:20:54 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1207079 17:20:57 #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, plasma-workspace, MODIFIED 17:21:35 seems simple enough to take, will affect lives 17:21:40 What Could Possibly Go Wrong 17:22:10 "will affect lives", well that's ominous 17:22:24 hehe 17:22:36 sure, +1 FE 17:22:37 we should start a pool for FEs causing other issues 17:22:46 do penny bets or something 17:22:47 lol 17:23:34 I don't know if print screen shortcuts not working is worth breaking freeze for beta though 17:24:12 well, presumably it affects others too. 17:24:24 even just print screen is kind of annoying if you're trying to take screenshots for a review, i guess. 17:24:32 Well, the lack of printscreen makes life hard for reviews 17:24:36 well, printscreen is helpful for testing 17:24:39 See, he gets it 17:24:45 I guess +1 then 17:24:51 Yeah, I'm +1 as well. 17:25:45 proposed #agreed - 1207079 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta - Getting a fix in for this bug would greatly benefit testing of the beta release, so we'll accept a fix during freeze. 17:25:55 ack 17:26:10 ack 17:26:20 ack 17:26:22 #agreed - 1207079 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta - Getting a fix in for this bug would greatly benefit testing of the beta release, so we'll accept a fix during freeze. 17:26:31 #topic (1198437) [btrfs] incorrectly includes subvolid=5 in fstab for some mountpoints 17:26:34 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1198437 17:26:37 #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-blivet, ASSIGNED 17:27:36 +1 17:28:14 * adamw reads 17:28:32 sure, +1 17:28:40 um. 17:28:44 I'm not thrilled with including FEs for anaconda/blivet that weren't requested by the devs 17:28:50 * adamw not totally sure about changing this post-freeze, would like anaconda opinion at least. 17:28:59 But then, no one will necessarily fix them either. 17:29:34 that was my thought 17:29:39 i'm inclined to -1 on this, just don't see the justification for a freeze break atm 17:30:00 Yeah, I'm erring on the side of -1 unless someone makes a REALLY compelling argument otherwise. 17:30:09 (And that argument has to come from Anaconda) 17:30:14 well, it's unclear, does it prevent boot? 17:30:50 I guess no or that would be mentioned? 17:30:57 probably 17:31:21 so I am -1 as well without more info 17:32:02 cmurf explicitly says the devices actually seem to mount fine 17:32:10 so it's technically incorrect but afaics he doesn't say it breaks anything. 17:32:13 then it seems cosmetic 17:32:29 proposed #agreed - 1198437 - RejectedFreezeException Beta - This bug doesn't warrant FE status with the information provided. If more information is found regarding something breaking, please repropose. 17:32:33 ack 17:32:37 Ack 17:32:40 #agreed - 1198437 - RejectedFreezeException Beta - This bug doesn't warrant FE status with the information provided. If more information is found regarding something breaking, please repropose. 17:32:50 #topic (1204796) qt5-qtwebkit: QtWebKit logs visited URLs to WebpageIcons.db in private browsing mode [fedora-all] 17:32:54 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1204796 17:32:56 #info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, qt5-qtwebkit, ON_QA 17:33:50 impact=low 17:33:51 +1 17:34:12 yeah 17:34:24 policy is for auto FE though, so it can still be considered 17:34:34 only for high or more I thought? 17:34:43 I'm abstaining on this one. The impact doesn't seem high enough for breaking freeze 17:34:56 aiui, an FE can be for anything - if there's backing for it 17:34:56 But I dislike voting -1 on security :-P 17:35:02 haha 17:35:09 actually thats final 17:35:29 "The release must contain no known security bugs of 'important' or higher impact according to the Red Hat severity classification scale which cannot be satisfactorily resolved by a package update (e.g. issues during installation)." 17:35:32 I see this as having low impact, but being a good fix to get in. Nice and minimal and doesn't touch a 1000 things 17:36:15 WCPGW, right? 17:36:20 I think little, for this 17:36:27 and the fix is tested 17:37:15 the criterion is for blocker, not FE. 17:37:22 for FE it's pretty much a judgment call 17:37:24 yeah true. 17:37:38 seems viable people would use the browser from the live image, so i don't mind a +1 if it's tested 17:38:32 I suppose... weak +1 17:38:56 that's two +1 17:39:06 Yeah, I'll go with +1 also, I suppose. 17:39:15 proposed #agreed - 1204796 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta - A tested fix will be accepted to resolve this bug. 17:39:26 ack 17:39:40 i'll try and do a smoke test live image before filing next tc request 17:40:16 sweet 17:40:24 ack 17:40:27 #agreed - 1204796 - AcceptedFreezeException Beta - A tested fix will be accepted to resolve this bug. 17:40:50 #topic Open Floor 17:40:52 um 17:40:57 anybody have anything? 17:40:59 we can go back and -1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205534 now, right? 17:41:11 since you both tested and failed to reproduce 17:41:17 also dlehman wants to propose a new FE 17:41:24 yeah, we voted in bug during the meeting 17:41:45 be good to sign it off in the meeting since we're here. 17:41:49 sgallagh and I did anyway 17:42:16 #topic (1205534) gnome-initial-setup crashes upon selecting language 17:42:19 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205534 17:42:22 #info Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW 17:42:24 -1 17:42:25 ok, so with your re-tests, i'll vote -1 too. 17:42:57 proposed #agreed - 1205534 - RejectedBlocker Beta - This bug doesn't seem to be reproducible. If steps are found to reproduce this, please re-propose. 17:43:00 ack 17:43:59 ack 17:44:05 oh, already did that. 17:44:05 ack 17:44:06 hehe 17:44:10 #agreed - 1205534 - RejectedBlocker Beta - This bug doesn't seem to be reproducible. If steps are found to reproduce this, please re-propose. 17:44:15 #topic Open Floor 17:44:22 * roshi sets the fuse... 17:44:30 Wasn't there something from dlehman? 17:44:33 dlehman, yes. 17:44:33 now for the new FE? 17:44:43 he didn't actually mark a bug yet, but the change he wants considered is https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/60/files 17:45:04 it seems kinda borderline for me - on the one hand it's a somewhat significant change, otoh if we're going to take it maybe it makes sense to have it in beta... 17:45:32 Yeah, if we're going to take this at all, better to be in Beta. +1 17:45:35 * nirik waits for github 17:45:53 (Also, I'm good with changes that limit the mistakes people can make; at least for FEs) 17:46:22 I think just having it in beta for testing is reason enough to +1 17:46:29 sure, seems ok 17:46:59 proposed #agreed - #topic (1205534) gnome-initial-setup crashes upon selecting language 17:47:02 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1205534 17:47:09 bah, there was a bad paste 17:47:16 #undo 17:47:16 Removing item from minutes: 17:47:47 proposed #agreed - https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/60/files - AcceptedFreezeException - It would be good to get this into Beta for testing purposes. 17:47:56 link object? 17:48:13 oh nm 17:48:16 * adamw just worried this will turn out to have unexpected consequences... 17:48:16 Ack 17:48:22 tentative ack 17:48:23 ack 17:48:27 everything does adamw - just embrace it :p 17:48:42 #agreed - https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/60/files - AcceptedFreezeException - It would be good to get this into Beta for testing purposes. 17:48:54 seems like it would be easy enough to revert if need be 17:49:06 anything else? 17:49:19 Red sgallagh needs food badly 17:49:37 3... 17:50:04 2... 17:51:03 1... 17:51:09 thanks for coming folks! 17:51:17 #endmeeting