#ansible-meeting: Ansible Core Meeting

Meeting summary

1. 1. Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/150 (gundalow, 19:01:26)
   
   
2. Windows Working Group (gundalow, 19:01:38)
   1. IT'S ALIVE (gundalow, 19:01:43)
   2. Windows Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/153 (gundalow, 19:01:57)
   3. Windows Meeting Times https://github.com/ansible/community/blob/master/MEETINGS.md (gundalow, 19:02:13)
   4. ACTION: nitzmahone to announce Windows Working Group on both mailing lists (gundalow, 19:04:27)
   
   
3. Discuss extending the module "shipit" workflow to non-modules (gundalow, 19:05:45)
   1. paused as it requires metadata which we are currrently rethinking (gundalow, 19:06:40)
   
   
4. ansible/proposals#14 Proposal: Module Rename Lifecycle (gundalow, 19:12:49)
   1. ACTION: everyone Please review proposal and add comments (gundalow, 19:13:00)
   
   
5. discussion is in order on how to tackle the "modules are used for adding, changing, removing and giving information about an object". (gundalow, 19:13:43)
   1. https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/150#issuecomment-282733423 (gundalow, 19:13:52)
   2. Discussion triggered by: ansible/ansible#20399 (review) (gundalow, 19:14:15)
   3. ACTION: thaumos to write proposal for _facts, _info, lookup plugins (thaumos, 19:50:06)
   4. three separate ideas for modules returning data: (abadger1999, 19:50:22)
   5. split between _facts (host-specific) and _info (host-agnostic... for instance, query for info from ec2) (abadger1999, 19:50:53)
   6. what to do about having a module return info (state=SOMEVALUE where we standardize SOMEVALUE) or query=True/False (abadger1999, 19:51:48)
   7. whether to push more _info module type functionality into lookup plugins instead (abadger1999, 19:52:20)
   8. these can be each be decided upon separately (abadger1999, 19:53:07)
   
   
6. metadata (bcoca, 19:59:18)
   1. https://github.com/ansible/proposals/issues/54 New metadata proposal (abadger1999, 19:59:37)
   2. http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/modules_support.html (thaumos, 20:02:27)
   3. Metadata 1.0 changes approved +1: 2.5 +0 1.5, -1:0 (abadger1999, 20:10:56)
   4. ACTION: abadger1999 to work on the dependencies to get metadata changed in time for 2.3 (abadger1999, 20:11:21)
   
   
7. Open Floor (abadger1999, 20:11:29)
   1. sivel interested in a new design for choosing action plugins that allows for better code reuse. Will create a proposal here: https://github.com/ansible/proposals/issues/55 (abadger1999, 20:13:00)
   
   
8. error when using the same name for module and module_utils https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/21927 (abadger1999, 20:17:02)
   
9. Open Floor (abadger1999, 20:20:34)

Action items

1. nitzmahone to announce Windows Working Group on both mailing lists
2. everyone Please review proposal and add comments
3. thaumos to write proposal for _facts, _info, lookup plugins
4. abadger1999 to work on the dependencies to get metadata changed in time for 2.3

Action items, by person

1. abadger1999
   1. abadger1999 to work on the dependencies to get metadata changed in time for 2.3
2. nitzmahone
   1. nitzmahone to announce Windows Working Group on both mailing lists
3. thaumos
   1. thaumos to write proposal for _facts, _info, lookup plugins

People present (lines said)

1. bcoca (84)
2. abadger1999 (76)
3. sivel (75)
4. gundalow (36)
5. thaumos (18)
6. grastogi (12)
7. ryansb (11)
8. nitzmahone (10)
9. zodbot (5)
10. alikins (5)
11. mattclay (2)
12. jimi|ansible (2)
13. funzo (1)
14. shertel (1)
15. jtanner (1)
16. Qalthos (0)