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#ansible-meeting: Ansible Core Meeting
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Meeting started by gundalow at 19:00:29 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-meeting/2017-02-14/ansible_core_meeting.2017-02-14-19.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Agenda, feel free to add things
  https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/150  (gundalow, 19:02:26)
* Proposal Process  (gundalow, 19:04:23)
  * Need to work out who has the action to document the proposed
    Proposal Workflow  (gundalow, 19:05:50)
  * the proposal update should be done in a PR which updates
    https://github.com/ansible/proposals/blob/master/proposals_process_proposal.md
    (gundalow, 19:11:10)
  * ACTION: allanice001 has kindly offered to raise a PR to update
    proposals_process_proposal.md  (gundalow, 19:12:49)
  * In the future we can look at moving this under
    docs.ansible.com/ansible/NEWDIR/process_proposal.html (though that's
    not a priority at the moment, and required gundalow to think about
    better names)  (gundalow, 19:13:41)
  * gundalow to move the doc under rst once it's been agreed  (gundalow,
    19:14:18)
  * gundalow wants to create a new docs section for other things, but
    isn't sure what to call it yet, details about our release process,
    proposal process, etc will go there, rather than under dev_guide.
    Need to bikeshed a name  (gundalow, 19:16:46)

* ansible/ansible#18453 "pycrypto not listed in the Python package
  requirements list"  (gundalow, 19:19:22)
  * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/18453   (gundalow,
    19:19:34)
  * This issue highlighted: 1) Update the requirements in documentation
    2) Prevent future desync between setup.py and docs  (gundalow,
    19:20:13)
  * Sivel suggested: Maybe we could move the requirements to install
    into a requirements.txt file that is referenced by setup.py as well
    as the instructions specifying to utilize the requirements.txt
    instead of listing the packages separately in 2 locations? Just a
    thought, as I've seen this done elsewhere.  (gundalow, 19:21:20)
  * ACTION: abadger and sivel to figure out how to implement docs and
    stup.py using the same requirements.txt to install dependencies.
    (abadger2000, 19:39:27)
  * LINK: https://github.com/google/google-apputils   (bcoca, 19:39:48)
  * Docs side we change it to: pip install -r requirements.txt
    (gundalow, 19:40:04)

* ansible/ansible#21299 Add "idempotence check" section to module docs
  (gundalow, 19:40:18)
  * LINK:    (gundalow, 19:40:27)
  * LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/21299   (gundalow,
    19:40:36)
  * a) not all modules are idempotent  (gundalow, 19:43:29)
  * b) that can get complicated  (gundalow, 19:43:39)
  * c) notes; already exist as well as you can add to descriptions of
    'state'  (gundalow, 19:43:49)
  * d) all the more docs to become outdated with  (gundalow, 19:43:58)
  * -1: jtanner, thaumos, ryansb, gundalow, abadger2000, mattclay,
    sivel, allanice001 (8)  (gundalow, 19:52:23)
  * +0: bcoca  (gundalow, 19:52:30)
  * AGREED: No to updating a new field  (gundalow, 19:54:02)
  * ACTION: gundalow to add some words to
    developing_modules_documenting.html's notes: regarding "for example
    if check_mode is only supported with some parameters"  (gundalow,
    19:58:32)

* Open Floor  (gundalow, 19:59:06)

* Commits to devel  (gundalow, 19:59:53)

* Open Floor  (gundalow, 20:00:14)
  * note to all ... needs_revision is a constant work in progress with
    the bot. Please point out irregularities or inconsistencies to
    jtanner  (gundalow, 20:00:32)
  * All code changes to devel must go via PRs. Shippable is their to
    help you, look before merging  (gundalow, 20:01:17)
  * AGREED:   (allanice001, 20:05:28)
  * If you have anything for next meeting please add to
    https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/150  (gundalow,
    20:05:37)

Meeting ended at 20:05:53 UTC.




Action Items
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* allanice001 has kindly offered to raise a PR to update
  proposals_process_proposal.md
* abadger and sivel to figure out how to implement docs and stup.py
  using the same requirements.txt to install dependencies.
* gundalow to add some words to developing_modules_documenting.html's
  notes: regarding "for example if check_mode is only supported with
  some parameters"




Action Items, by person
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* allanice001
  * allanice001 has kindly offered to raise a PR to update
    proposals_process_proposal.md
* gundalow
  * gundalow to add some words to developing_modules_documenting.html's
    notes: regarding "for example if check_mode is only supported with
    some parameters"
* sivel
  * abadger and sivel to figure out how to implement docs and stup.py
    using the same requirements.txt to install dependencies.
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* gundalow (98)
* abadger2000 (43)
* allanice001 (37)
* bcoca (34)
* sivel (22)
* jtanner (20)
* thaumos (16)
* zodbot (6)
* ryansb (4)
* mattclay (2)
* akasivel (2)
* resmo (1)
* shertel (1)
* jimi|ansible (1)
* nitzmahone (1)
* Qalthos (0)




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