ansible_contributors_summit_-_general_session
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#ansible-community: Ansible Contributors Summit - General session

Meeting started by gundalow at 13:53:04 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Intros (gundalow, 14:05:22)
  2. Stats update (gundalow, 14:19:43)
    1. gwmngilfen is now talking about how Ansible Community Team uses data analysis to make informed discussions (gundalow, 14:20:19)
    2. gwmngilfen gave a presentation on Monday about Stats, that video will be available soon on YouTube (gundalow, 14:21:00)
    3. If you are interested in Contributing to Ansible please subscribe to The BullHorn: http://bit.ly/thebullhorn Community newsletter (gundalow, 14:21:51)
    4. One of the things we are keeping in mind is are collections performing better than gh/ansible/ansible. In terms of keeping on top of the backlog, helping find new maintainers, signs of burn out. (gundalow, 14:25:50)
    5. https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/68681) | open, created 2020-04-03T18:13:58Z by noonedeadpunk: Fix mask behaviour when service is enabled [affects_2.10,bug,collection,core_review,module,stale_ci,support:core,system] (github-linkbot, 14:28:06)
    6. ACTION: gwmngilfen To see if https://api.github.com/users/welcome[bot] type=bot is useful (though will not help if people are using regular user accounts) (gundalow, 14:37:11)
    7. On Monday we publiced https://www.katacoda.com/ansible-community/ for the first time. We have data that shows that it was userfull (gundalow, 14:39:35)
    8. I hope this helps explains why we do surveys, we really need this feedback. You should get a survey link next week (gundalow, 14:42:39)
    9. https://stats.eng.ansible.com/apps/meetups/ (cybette, 14:47:42)

  3. Ansible 2.10 (gundalow, 14:51:48)
    1. Ansible 2.10 was a major change to how Ansible was released. Its `ansible-base` + collections (gundalow, 14:52:07)
    2. https://github.com/ansible-collections/vyos.vyos/pull/94/checks for exmaple (pabelanger, 14:52:50)
    3. New docs https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/2.10/collections/ (notice it's 2.10/collections) (gundalow, 14:53:38)
    4. https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/graphql/reference/objects#checksuite suggests there's a CheckSuite api object, worth digging in a bit (gwmngilfen, 14:57:17)
    5. https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/graphql/reference/objects#checkrun (gwmngilfen, 14:57:47)
    6. We know there aren't any deb yet. We have to update a lot of the build scripts https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/issues/202 (gundalow, 14:57:52)
    7. We will be rewriting the `ansible` build scripts hopefully to public GitHub Actions (gundalow, 14:58:23)
    8. : QUESTION: Will we stick with patch releases every three weeks? (gundalow, 15:03:06)
    9. https://github.com/ansible/community/tree/master/meetings#wednesdays (felixfontein, 15:06:43)
    10. https://github.com/ansible-network/releases/blob/master/ansible_releases/cmd/generate_ansible_collection.py is how we build the collection (pabelanger, 15:09:15)

  4. Ansible 2.11, the future, policy and governance (gundalow, 15:13:33)
    1. AGREED: Chains that start in ansible-base MUST resolve in the Ansible package (gundalow, 16:02:49)
    2. https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.general/pull/1096 | closed, created 2020-10-14T19:18:17Z by patchback[bot]: [PR #1082/555eb621 backport][stable-1] solaris_zone: fix zone configuration with python3 [affects_2.10,bug,community_review,module,new_contributor,plugins,python3,system,tests] (github-linkbot, 16:04:04)

  5. Diversity and Inclusion update (gundalow, 16:26:00)
    1. Earlier in the year we setup a D&I working Group (gundalow, 16:27:09)
    2. We have two D&I sessions during Fest (gundalow, 16:27:23)
    3. https://github.com/ansible/community/wiki/Diversity/FAQs (jillr, 16:27:40)
    4. We've saved all the questions and will add to https://github.com/ansible/community/wiki/Diversity/FAQs (gundalow, 16:28:03)
    5. Feel free to join us in #ansible-diversity (gundalow, 16:28:13)
    6. This is the first year we had captioning available for some sessions (gundalow, 16:28:28)

  6. Documentation update (gundalow, 16:36:49)
    1. There are some pages that shouldn't be associated with a specific releases (gundalow, 16:37:42)
    2. Going forward ansible & ansible-base releases will diverge more. (gundalow, 16:38:35)
    3. We have a documentation working group breakout at 2000UTC (gundalow, 16:40:15)
    4. Anyone can and should help with documentation (gundalow, 16:48:01)
    5. https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/community/how_can_I_help.html#review-fix-and-maintain-the-documentation (samccann, 16:50:43)

  7. Content Team update (gundalow, 16:52:23)
    1. Brad and pabelanger give an updated on Content Team (gundalow, 16:52:57)
    2. index_of: https://github.com/ansible-collections/ansible.utils (for Plugins that are related to data manipulation will go) (gundalow, 17:05:36)
    3. jillr is now giving an updated on Cloud updates (gundalow, 17:07:18)

  8. Release candidates for stable branches & CHAOS (experimental feedback) (gundalow, 17:16:36)
    1. relrod is now speaking (gundalow, 17:16:47)
    2. Some features intentionally break the world for the greater-good (gundalow, 17:17:19)
    3. Seperate PyPi project & GitHub repository where we can experiment with features (gundalow, 17:26:31)
    4. Maybe a different entry point, ie `ansible-choas-playbook` so you can it installed along side `ansible-base` (gundalow, 17:27:57)

  9. Role Argument Spec Validation (gundalow, 17:30:12)
    1. sdoran and Shrews talking (gundalow, 17:30:21)

  10. BREAK (gundalow, 18:08:50)
  11. Minimum version of Python controller increase (gundalow, 19:00:56)
    1. https://docs.centos.org/en-US/8-docs/managing-userspace-components/assembly_using-appstream/ (noonedeadpunk, 19:07:50)
    2. https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ansible-contributor-summit-october-2020-morning Line 162, please add notes there (gundalow, 19:11:16)

  12. Execution Environments (gundalow, 19:17:53)
    1. maxamillion and Shane talking about Execution Execution Environments (gundalow, 19:18:26)
    2. This does not mean you will be required to use a container to run/use Ansible. EE provides a nice portable Ansible control node as an option. (sdoran, 19:22:26)
    3. https://docs.openstack.org/infra/bindep/readme.html (noonedeadpunk, 19:24:03)
    4. https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/69203#issuecomment-663901637 (webknjaz, 19:34:21)

  13. Galaxy Next Gen (gundalow, 19:38:11)
    1. newswangerd is speaking (gundalow, 19:38:46)
    2. https://github.com/ansible/project-config/blob/master/zuul.d/secrets.yaml#L118 for example (pabelanger, 19:48:07)
    3. https://github.com/ansible/project-config/blob/master/zuul.d/jobs.yaml#L140 release job (pabelanger, 19:48:52)
    4. https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/69605 https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/70303 https://github.com/sivel/ansible-pulp-galaxy-ng (sivel, 20:03:14)
    5. https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/69605 | closed, created 2020-05-19T21:02:10Z by sivel: Test ansible-galaxy against pulp/pulp_ansible [affects_2.10,feature,needs_revision,support:community,support:core,test] (github-linkbot, 20:03:15)


Meeting ended at 21:23:03 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. gwmngilfen To see if https://api.github.com/users/welcome[bot] type=bot is useful (though will not help if people are using regular user accounts)


Action items, by person

  1. gwmngilfen
    1. gwmngilfen To see if https://api.github.com/users/welcome[bot] type=bot is useful (though will not help if people are using regular user accounts)


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