talking about Groklaw and how it's changed from
documenting the SCO trial to now being more of a "newsletter" for
open source topics(ganderson,
12:54:03)
Remix group has a package list, will be
actually building image today(mchua,
13:07:04)
Measure group has found bugs, made patches -
walterbender beat them to a fix - found a bug in Walter's code, will
be pushing their patches upstream today and getting help from
upstream on some questions they have. Also learned interactive git
rebasing!(mchua,
13:07:51)
The remix folks are currently searching for
documentation on how to make a remix(mchua,
13:22:43)
Update from the Remix folks - we've mostly got
through the instructions (they have also been improved) and have
asked mether and gwerra questions in #fedora-devel, gotten help from
jgreguske as well(mchua,
16:04:18)
Remix problem: not enough disk space :) so we
can try building the minimal .ks just to get an .iso out after
lunch(mchua,
16:04:34)
We'll also try to put in the rebranding and the
bookmarks on that minimal .ks now that we know we can pull in the
package list we want.(mchua,
16:06:31)
Sometimes, communities have had bad experiences
with students in the past - they barge in, start something, then
drop it on the ground and leave - unreliably - so it's important
that your students do it right, and leave a good impression, and
show that they know how to do things right the open source
way.(mchua,
18:37:14)
They found they needed to select 3 things to do
this successfully: (1) a faculty member, (2) a FOSS community(mchua,
18:41:17)
(3) Student projects - they need to be
non-critical-path, yet things that people care about. "what are the
things you would love to see done, but just don't have time to
do?"(mchua,
18:44:34)
Don't have to finish - need to get to a good
"next starting point."(mchua,
18:49:04)
Danger: if students go off on their own and
think they know everything and come in at the end with a finished
product, it may not be what the community wants/needs, so they may
just reject it (even if it's perfectly good work, it's not what they
needed) - so *do* involve them in community dialogue early on(mchua,
18:52:15)
Critique from a professional programmer on your
code is invaluable - FOSS can help your students get it.(mchua,
19:00:56)