12:34:00 #startmeeting 12:34:00 Meeting started Mon Jun 7 12:34:00 2010 UTC. The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:34:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:34:04 #meetingname POSSE Worcester - Monday 12:34:04 The meeting name has been set to 'posse_worcester_-_monday' 12:34:09 Welcome to POSSE Worcester! 12:34:29 We're starting up... introductions and such, and then getting people on IRC for the first time (which may, depending on how fast we do everything else, take several hours). 12:34:45 * sdziallas waves, will be around. 12:39:00 sdziallas: In the meantime, while everyone is getting set up, I'll see if we can throw a netbook on the projector and videoconference you in. 12:39:12 Okeydokey, awesome! 12:39:14 Possibly even with a working microphone. 12:39:24 * sdziallas will be running around for the next five mins but should be around then. 12:41:28 It'll take longer than that to get this setup going. Peter and I are hooking things up now. 12:41:40 Professors are filling out the POSSE surveys hellis and ghislop put together. 12:45:38 We've got 6 out of 8 people here... trying to see who we've got 12:46:40 7 out of 8! 12:49:29 * ianweller waves 12:50:33 hey, ianweller! 12:51:21 hey sdziallas 12:51:29 * pbrobinson waves 12:51:32 And here come the instructors. Sweet. 12:51:45 test test 12:51:48 Peter_: win! 12:51:53 lol 12:52:27 hi 12:52:55 Hey, mihaela! 12:52:58 Okay, everyone is in the classroom! 12:53:03 mchua: okay, cool! 12:53:07 hey pbrobinson (et al!) 12:53:16 ...now to get them all on IRC. 12:53:23 We've got 2 out of 8 so far. 12:54:24 i hate IRC :-D 12:54:53 sdziallas: hey! 12:54:56 Guest65150: Who's this? /nick , if you like, so we can recognize you. 12:54:57 #nick Peter 12:55:07 test 12:55:16 somehow it lost my nick name 12:55:19 :-/ 12:55:20 Guest65150: you want "/nick" rather than "#nick" 12:55:24 <----peter 12:55:36 <----peter 12:55:59 test 12:56:45 and i am back 12:56:53 for a while until it changes my nick again 12:56:54 :-/ 13:00:39 sdziallas: Skype appears to be working, so when we get to that point we can put you online. 13:00:53 * mchua not sure when "that point" is going to be quite yet, but... what does your schedule look like today, pre-SoaS meeting? 13:01:05 mchua: whoa, awesome! 13:01:08 mchua: I'll be here. 13:02:01 #link http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State#Monday 13:03:47 Everyone's assignment right now is (1) boot the live image of the POSSE Remix and (2) get on IRC 13:04:10 This is... challenging, given the different types of laptops and the getting-of-a-wifi-connection and such. 13:04:16 But once we get everyone on, we'll be rolling. 13:07:26 Morning (er, afternoon?) heffer! 13:07:37 afternoon :) 13:07:45 what's up? :) 13:07:57 yay my nick is still the same :-D 13:08:28 * ctyler waves to the Worcester gang 13:08:29 heffer: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State#Monday 13:08:34 yo, ctyler! 13:08:40 We're still in "let's all get on IRC" mode. 13:08:44 wish i knew how to wave :-/ 13:09:01 Peter__: say: /me waves 13:09:14 * Peter__ waves at everybody 13:09:16 ah 13:09:18 thankx 13:09:19 * sdziallas thinks that worked :) 13:09:36 * Peter__ waves furiously now 13:10:00 * sdziallas grins 13:10:01 haha. i _like_ deliverable #2 13:10:40 heffer: maybe we should implement that process generally? ;) 13:10:55 * sdziallas looks at ianweller for wiki-fu. 13:11:16 hi what 13:11:45 ianweller: hiya! we need something like deliverable #2 on http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State#Monday for the entire Fedora universe. can haz plugin or something? ;) 13:12:28 hey if you don't have a name tag, slap one on! 13:12:42 sdziallas: Er... NetworkManager is on the remix, right? 13:12:44 (I think?) 13:12:53 sdziallas: the deliverable and the fedora universe don't link in my head. 13:12:56 mchua: yup, I think so... isn't it. 13:13:05 ianweller: not being able to edit your own wiki page :P 13:13:07 I *swear* it's on the kickstart, or at least not taken off the kickstart. 13:13:27 i think my neighbor is here! :-D 13:13:29 sdziallas: the plugin is to watch the recent changes and if they edit their own page, beat them over the head with a stick. :) 13:13:30 mchua: wait, you're telling me that we're...? dammit, let me try. 13:13:41 ianweller: LOL :D okay, that worksforme, too! 13:13:42 * Peter__ waves at Mahadev 13:13:58 Mahadev: Awesome! 13:14:10 sdziallas: i could write a plugin but it would most likely have issues because when i write PHP, it looks like i barfed functions all over a document 13:14:17 sdziallas: and it wouldn't be done for a few weeks ;) 13:14:18 mchua: I'll boot it in a VM real quick. 13:14:21 ianweller: :) 13:14:34 Peter__, Mahadev: If you're online, and can walk around and help folks who haven't gotten on IRC yet get started, that would be great - but first, come up to the whiteboard... 13:16:39 sdziallas, did you get a new laptop since FOSDEM'09? because afair your old laptop didn't do kvm 13:17:30 heffer: I will get a new one soon (as in: it's already ordered), but I'm running the VM on my main machine (Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 should be sufficient, I hear). 13:17:55 sdziallas, everything that has hardware virtualization is sufficient :) 13:17:59 mchua: can you please throw lots of sticks at me now? 13:18:16 sdziallas: please do not actually beat people with sticks 13:18:18 live usb stick works fine, of course not the wireless driver :-D 13:18:30 sdziallas: whether actual sticks or usb sticks 13:18:53 ianweller: actual sticks, I think. I deserve that. NetworkManager is kinda... essential. 13:18:58 sdziallas, better pester people with kool aid 13:19:01 OH YEAH! 13:19:10 Since we're taking a long time to get everyone on IRC and I don't want to block on this, here's a window everyone can see for the time being. ;) 13:19:19 No matter what, at half-past, we're going to start. 13:19:19 What does throwing sticks mean? Not literally, I hope. 13:19:41 Mahadev: I'm the person that's responsible for you not having wifi. So literally would be okay, I guess. :) 13:20:11 sdziallas: Uh... is there not NetworkManager, then? 13:20:17 * Peter__ waves at Karl 13:20:23 * kwurst waves 13:20:31 We *almost* have everyone online. 13:20:32 Almost! 13:20:36 mchua: teach them the wonders of yum. 13:20:40 mchua: you also might want to get +o so you can change the topic 13:21:05 sdziallas: yum install ? 13:21:06 Couldn't get the mac to boot the live cd, but I'm running it under vmware now. 13:21:15 mchua: NetworkManager-gnome 13:21:26 mchua: that should already be sufficient. let me confirm quickly. 13:21:43 * ianweller agrees with sdziallas 13:22:00 :) 13:22:09 ianweller: if I'm wrong, you get the stick now, too ;) 13:22:36 that's ok, i'm in raleigh 13:22:41 you would have to throw pretty hard 13:23:00 ianweller: I can throw that stick in person at the end of July, remember. (Or possibly later this month. Depending on whether jadudm & co. come to town.) 13:23:29 Aparna: Welcome! 13:23:40 mchua: :) 13:24:41 ianweller: no stick for you. :) NetworkManager-gnome is enough! 13:24:45 pbrobinson: Yeah, let's go around and get everyone to yum install NetworkManager-gnome... 13:24:54 Thanks Mel. 13:25:17 not that I need it, but why does nobody have a driver for RTL8187SE in their distro??? 13:25:42 Peter__: I think that's licensing issues with it, no? 13:25:53 Peter__: probably because realtek doesn't like to make free drivers, or release documentation 13:26:14 is there a list of participants at the moment? 13:26:26 * mchua putting that up right now, heffer 13:27:14 mchua: question for you -- you going to run into any ambassador types this week? I need to get some F13 discs if they're out 13:27:23 heffer: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State#Attendees 13:27:26 yeah real-pain-in-the-neck :-D but it's not like the intel wireless card ever worked on my MSI wind either 13:27:33 ctyler: not this week, unless someone at Westford has stuff 13:27:35 i like wires for my netbook which is kinda sad 13:27:58 because many names sound very german :D 13:28:43 heffer: whoa. you're right. 13:29:15 * ctyler thinks your projector has a mind of its own 13:29:42 ctyler: I, autonomous projector-mind, switched from freenode webchat to xchat-gnome (which is what's on the POSSE Remix these days). 13:29:49 * heffer thinks of ctyler's funny projector that had windows xp embedded 13:29:57 I have also achieved sentience. BWAHAHAHA! 13:30:12 * sdziallas laughs. 13:30:42 heffer: haha whoa i remember that. 13:31:08 * sdziallas thinks we've got a FUDCon Toronto revival party here :) 13:31:17 i think mel wants to start 13:31:19 :-D 13:32:12 okay :) but unfortunately i won't be able to stay all the time. i'm at work at the moment and have an appointment in about an hour or so 13:32:23 #topic Introductions 13:32:42 We're going offline for a bit, to introduce ourselves in person - but if you're here remotely, introduce yourselves now and we'll read your text when we get back. 13:32:48 heffer: sdziallas: ianweller: ctyler: ^ 13:33:10 hi, i'm ianweller 13:33:15 i'm sitting in a cube at red hat's headquarters 13:33:20 i do stuff with fedora 13:33:35 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller 13:33:36 EOF 13:34:26 hi POSSE Worcester, I'm Chris Tyler 13:34:45 Hi! I'm... uh, sdziallas on IRC. The 's' stands for Sebastian and the 'dziallas' for my last name. I'm sitting in... my room in Germany. I'm doing stuff with Fedora and Sugar Labs (the two leading into Sugar on a Stick, about which you'll hear more soon, I guess). 13:36:03 Hi POSSE. I'm Felix Kaechele. Currently I'm at work at the school I used to attend. I broke our LAN a few days ago and have almost fixed it! YAY! 13:36:12 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Heffer (with new pic btw) \o/ 13:36:15 EOF 13:36:26 i need to update my wiki czar pic with something a bit more of the current me 13:36:32 shorter hair, mostly 13:37:03 I also do stuff with Fedora, and I teach at Seneca College, Toronto. I've written a couple of books for O'Reilly and am one of the founders of teachingopensource.org. I'm sitting on my couch at home in Vaughan, Ontario. 13:37:31 i'm assuming mchua will be none too happy that we all just said "do stuff with fedora" ;) 13:37:33 * heffer wishes he could be in Canada too :) 13:39:24 * ctyler puts laptop down on couch 13:39:36 heffer: you're virtually sitting on my couch in Canada 13:39:43 ianweller: but it's true, I think. :) 13:39:50 sdziallas: true. 13:39:54 feels good :) 13:40:10 ctyler: i almost lol'd. but there's other people on my floor i would have bothered. 13:40:25 ianweller: can you put your laptop in the RH office for me? I'd like to sit there virtually! 13:40:31 i need to have a canadian passport and proof of citizenship issued. for showing off :P 13:40:39 sdziallas: already done 13:40:49 ianweller: ah, awesome :) 13:40:57 sdziallas: would you like a virtual coke from the break room 13:41:07 ianweller: yeah, that'd be nice! 13:41:07 ianweller: "doing stuff" saves explaining the difference between ambassador-foo and wiki-foo and board-foo and bar-foo 13:41:14 ianweller, yes please spill it over your laptop 13:41:21 heffer: LOL! 13:41:40 ianweller: or FedEx it over. I bet RH takes care of the shipping cost. :) 13:41:49 sdziallas: here you go http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/presscenter/img/imagebrands/downloads/lg_cocacola_can.jpg 13:41:50 and as soon as you timeout i will be done 13:42:05 ianweller: *thank* you. ;) 14:08:38 hmm gotta go :( 14:08:39 see you 14:15:45 Ok - in-person intros done... we're doing a bit of an overview now, scrolling back up to read your intros, and then getting sdziallas in via videoconference to explain SoaS. 14:40:45 sdziallas: the question was: "are the number of iterations know?" 14:41:03 sdziallas: I am not sure what is meant by iterations... 14:51:36 walterbender: hey :) (thank you!) 14:51:50 walterbender: I didn't see this... shouldn't turn on screensavers on my laptop. 14:52:03 walterbender: I was referring to Mirabelle being the third iteration, but... yeah. 14:52:18 We are figuring out lunch-fu, and then we'll be getting everyone on IRC. 14:52:21 (again) 14:52:28 Awesome, posse_projector! :) 14:53:16 The current front-runner seems to be "pizza" 14:53:24 NOM! 14:53:26 :) 14:53:38 ...pizza it is! 14:53:41 I am hungry already. Come on! 14:58:38 walterbender: by the way, do we have a Sugar Labs OpenOffice Impress template somewhere? (or do you know of any?) 15:00:49 People are working on deliverables for http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State#Monday for the rest of the day; walterbender and pbrobinson and I will be running mini-sessions at the top for things that may help with those assignments. 15:01:20 Here's the website for the pizza I mentioned: http://www.muncheezpizzeria.com 15:02:09 And here's the page with the "weird" pizzas: http://www.muncheezpizzeria.com/zgrid/proc/site/sitemnup.jsp?mnuid_it=88792 15:03:43 Walter is going to be doing an intro tour of Sugar in 12 minutes. 15:03:45 It'll be about 15 minutes long. 15:04:30 kwurst: I totally want the "Down South" and the "Mac & cheese" 15:04:34 ...actually, I want all of them. 15:05:51 ianweller: Are you around? Do you have a webcam where you're at? 15:06:01 ianweller: I was wondering if you might want to pop in and talk with folks about wiki-fu this afternoon. 15:06:49 i have no web cam afaik. 15:07:01 ianweller: can we just grab you in-channel then? 15:07:09 sure. what time? 15:07:17 oh, afternoon. yeah, shouldn't be a problem 15:07:42 sdziallas: well, not exactly... I usually just grab a presentation and modify it... 15:07:52 walterbender: ah, cool :) 15:08:14 sdziallas: I should make a template and put it on the wiki... same for oowriter. 15:08:15 So, I just checked, and there's not enough dining room space for us to eat *at* Muncheez, but we can order it and eat here. 15:08:29 kwurst: +1 to bringing it back. 15:08:47 walterbender: :) (well, I could check that out too, whatever works best) 15:09:04 Who is in the room and in this channel? walterbender and pbrobinson, and kwurst and Peter__ - but I don't see others yet... 15:09:15 If you're in the room at POSSE and online and I haven't called your name in the line above, can you wave and say who you are? 15:09:22 * mchua may not be matching nicks to real-people yet 15:09:46 What what what? 15:10:10 Oh I am already here! :-D Sorry. 15:10:22 I'm Karl if you haven't figured that out. 15:10:48 I am Mahadev from Fitchburg State College 15:12:00 hi 15:12:08 And Jared and Mihaela are teaching each other how to use IRC over in the front row here - using ChatZilla. 15:12:09 Aparna 15:12:17 jerry says Hi 15:12:27 Guest49711: Type "/nick aparna" (no quotes) to change your name. 15:12:37 mchua: you type faster than I do :) 15:13:54 So, what's involved in setting up a planet? Hardware, software? I like the idea of how it's being used at Seneca, and thinking I'd like to do something similar here, so our students and faculty can see what everyone else is doing. 15:15:21 Finally, I am getting the hang of it 15:15:58 Aparna: It takes a while to get a setup working that you're comfortable with, for a lot of these communication tools, methinks. 15:16:12 I get confused every time I start working with a new project - need to relearn lists and wikis and whatnot. 15:16:14 is there a significant difference between using rss and atom for syndicating my blog to the planets? 15:16:18 Peter__: Nope. 15:16:25 kwurst: Software, and a server to run that software on. 15:16:43 mchua: didn't we talk about creating a kit for that at some point? 15:16:47 kwurst: You might ask ctyler what CDOT (Seneca) uses for aggregation - I think the original software is "Planet Planet" but iirc it's abandonware and there are other, better clones that forked off. 15:16:52 My blog site is nmahadev.wordpress.com 15:17:03 sdziallas: Planet stuff? Yeah, I still think it's a good idea. But... copious amounts of free time, don't have those so much. :D 15:17:22 mchua: :) 15:17:34 Mahadev: Excellent! I'll get you on the TOS planet, and you can get yourself on the Sugar Labs planet... let me find a link for you. 15:17:43 Mahadev: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sysadmin/Planet_syndication_request 15:17:49 (that's also on http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State#Monday) 15:19:41 hackergotchi, eh? 15:19:50 that's troubling without gimp on the livestick 15:20:12 Thanks Mel. I never thought I will start a blog, or facebook or twitter. But here I am. 15:20:27 Peter__: We can always get the Fedora Design team to make us hackergotchis. 15:20:30 * mchua looks for yet another link 15:20:44 Peter__: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/HackergotchiService 15:22:29 I was upset that someone had already taken "kwurst" on WordPress - but it turns out that someone is me! I guess I made an account in the past. 15:22:38 My blog is http://kwurst.wordpress.com/ 15:22:58 Awesome. 15:23:08 * mchua linking in kwurst and Mahadev's blogs to Planet TOS right now 15:23:42 kwurst, Mahadev: if you need help getting the request in for Planet Sugar Labs, let me know, but I think http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sysadmin/Planet_syndication_request should do it. 15:23:55 Hi. This is Kristina. 15:24:19 Hi I'm Gary from WPI. 15:25:24 My blog is striegnitz.wordpress.com 15:25:28 Hi, My blog is http://aparna58.wordpress.com 15:26:33 Awesome - kris_striegnitz, Aparna, got it and will add your feeds now too. 15:31:00 Aparna, kris_striegnitz, kwurst, Mahadev - your blogs have been added to the bottom of the feed list for TOS, http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List#Feeds 15:31:04 just so you know 15:31:11 and on the next pass, any new posts you write should be pulled in. 15:31:21 ctyler: ^^ new blogs coming in today, if there's a way to accelerate the refresh process. 15:31:40 walterbender is now giving a quick 15-min tour of the Sugar environment. 15:31:48 I am, in the meantime, burning a Mirabelle stick for demo. 15:32:46 kwurst: Do we need to order the pizza in advance? 15:33:00 so how do i put the tags want to syndicate into the feed url? 15:33:22 mchua: probably, but we need to figure out when to do that. 15:33:49 kwurst: How about now? We can aggregate orders here on IRC... or on a wiki page. ;) 15:34:07 Walter is currently demoing the Abacus activity. 15:34:30 bacon? :) 15:35:11 Jeff_S: BACON 15:35:18 Jeff_S: Oh! Introduce yourself! 15:35:28 (for folks in Worcester - Jeff_S is all the way out in California.) 15:35:29 * Jeff_S not sure what's going on... :) 15:35:37 it's early here ;) 15:35:43 (then again, ctyler is in Toronto and ianweller is in Raleigh and sdziallas and heffer are in Germany.) 15:35:53 Jeff_S: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State 15:36:36 Walter is demonstrating the binary and hexadecimal abacuses. (abaci?) 15:36:38 hi POSSE, I'm Jeff Sheltren from Oregon State University Open Source Lab. - http://osuosl.org 15:37:10 coincidentally, we host the git repos for SugarLabs ;) 15:37:17 oh wait, Jeff_S is in Oregon - sorry, my mistake. :) Right timezone, though! 15:37:24 mchua: close enough! 15:37:30 ...ah, yes - Jefro is in California, I think I got that mixed up. 15:37:39 Jeff_S: Thank you for hosting the SL git repos (yay!) 15:37:46 hey, micadeyeye! We're in the middle of http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_Worcester_State right now. 15:37:48 mchua: we did get to have quaid here visiting last week 15:38:02 (for those in Worcester - micadeyeye is from South Africa, and is working on running a POSSE down there in October.) 15:38:06 Jeff_S: Yeah, I'm jealous :) 15:38:13 * mchua hasn't seen quaid for quite some time 15:38:16 (in person, that is) 15:38:21 heh 15:38:41 Not sure what is the URL of feed that needs to be added. 15:38:43 * Jeff_S hopes everyone has a great POSSE today 15:39:26 Mahadev: if you look at http://nmahadev.wordpress.com/ you'll see, at the bottom of the right sidebar, "Entries RSS" 15:39:35 that link (http://nmahadev.wordpress.com/feed/) is your feed. 15:39:38 mel: can't figure out the cateogry thing, but here's the feed http://blogs.jhu.edu/phf/atom 15:39:51 Peter__: That'll work! 15:40:08 Peter__: And if you start writing about lots of non-TOS/Sugar stuff, we'll figure out the categories then. 15:41:33 Peter__: You've been added to the bottom of http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List#Feeds, you're set with Planet TOS. 15:46:39 kwurst: planet software can be PlanetPlanet or PlanetVenus (which does better with some UTF8 that PlanetPlanet chokes on) 15:48:02 Folks in Worcester may notice the table now on the whiteboard - deliverables, and who's completed what. Feel free to check yourself off on things, I'm sure folks have done work I haven't seen yet. ;) 15:48:21 gpollice, mihaela, diamond- - for instance, I'm waiting for your blog URLs so I can add them to Planet TOS. ;) 15:48:39 mchua: planet refresh is currently 4x/hour 15:48:47 every 15 minutes starting at :10 15:49:01 and Peter__ , kwurst , Mahadev, Aparna, and kris_striegnitz - let me know when you've submitted your Sugar Labs Planet feed request, or walk up to the whiteboard and check it off yourself if you like. ;) 15:49:48 ctyler: edited http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List#Introduction - thanks! 15:49:52 (good to know) 15:50:01 mchua: "so I can add them to Planet TOS"? - surely you mean "so you can add them to Planet TOS" 15:50:06 :-) 15:50:29 ctyler: We haven't quite gotten to the wiki-editing part yet, but I'll be asking them to pop in and add hackergotchis/change names, etc. later on if they want. 15:50:36 * mchua just didn't want to block on that. 15:50:56 makes sense 15:51:25 ctyler: However, if there are instructions on how to reproduce the "we scrape it from a wiki page!" setup that Planet TOS has... I would *so* love that setup for Planet Sugar Labs. 15:51:30 The current process == bottleneck 15:51:35 less awful than it used to be, but still. 15:51:44 our infrastructure team is chronically overworked. 15:52:07 sdziallas: I'm checking to see how ready (or not) we are for our meeting this afternoon. 15:52:25 * mchua not sure yet whether/who from POSSE will want to stick around for that, but I will mail the logs to the POSSE list afterwards too. 15:52:42 mchua: I've sent my request for Sugar Labs Planet. 15:52:48 kwurst: noted! 15:54:25 mel - Jerry's blog is http://breecher.wordpress.com/wp-admin/index.php?page=my-blogs 15:54:42 mchua: you're distracting me from listening to Walter... 15:54:56 ;) 15:55:05 * mchua sees posts from this POSSE showing up on http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet, good! 15:56:24 done with bugs/git sugarlabs just ssh key missing, can't do it without going back to debian 15:56:37 kwurst: http://piratepad.net/posse-worcester-pizza - I'll explain this to folks when Walter is done. 15:56:44 Peter__: noted! 16:00:34 I emailed request to be syndicated into Sugar labs 16:02:17 Mahadev: Got it! 16:03:59 mchua: made trac account 16:04:04 kwurst: got it! 16:04:24 * mchua is trying to figure out how to temporarily pause walter so we can get food :) 16:04:38 * mchua will propose, in a moment, that we take pizza orders for tomorrow, and go buy food today 16:04:46 since pizzas take time to bake, and I am hungry. 16:04:50 hunnnnnngry. 16:05:09 diamond-, mihaela, gpollice - how are you doing? 16:05:30 mchua: made gitorius account. no ssh key yet... 16:05:38 Done registering with bugs and git 16:06:21 #link http://piratepad.net/posse-worcester-pizza 16:08:25 I sent email to sugar labs planet 16:08:41 Aparna: Thanks! Noted! 16:08:50 mchua: My blog is gpollice.wordpress.com and the RSS feed is http://gpollice.wordpress.com/feed/ 16:09:00 Peter__: Did you send in your Planet request to Planet SL too? 16:09:04 gpollice: Got it, thanks! 16:09:21 gpollice: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sysadmin/Planet_syndication_request for how to add it to Planet SL, and I'll put you on Planet TOS right now. 16:09:35 We can choose tomorrow's pizza later. Let's go eat now. 16:10:26 mchua: sure, sent it to SL all the way, wiki too by now :-D 16:10:35 gpollice: added to the bottom of http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Planet_Feed_List#Feeds 16:10:40 kwurst: ...I'm tempted to second that motion. :D 16:10:57 I can lock the room if people want to leave stuff here while we go to lunch. 16:11:06 Peter__: awesome, noted. 16:11:18 You're just blazing through them. :D 16:11:45 kwurst: Whenever you reach the point at which you want to lead the crew out to foodness, go for it. ;) 16:11:59 mcha: missed my git sign up. (or will you only note it when I make my ssh key also?) 16:12:00 ...though we should tell everyone about "/nick _afk" conventions. 16:12:10 kwurst: oh! sorry, yeah, I'll put you in for that now 16:12:34 let's eat let's eat let's eat 16:12:35 NOW 16:12:50 #topic LUNCH 16:12:54 Peter__: What a surprise. 16:13:24 you do this by "/nick _afk" 16:13:26 (no quotes) 16:33:32 oh god, attack of the _afk 16:33:43 lol 16:34:15 * Jeff_S notes that some people HATE /away _afk, etc. ;) 17:13:51 #topic Back from lunch - short Textbook interlude 17:14:10 Textbooks came up, so we're going to show everyone the TOS Textbook real quick, then get started on more deliverables. 17:14:42 the main one this afternoon that we want to get through is the wiki userpage deliverable, while everyone is in here. 17:15:37 ianweller: we'll be doing wiki stuff hopefully within the next 45m if you're around 17:15:52 i'll be around. 17:16:00 ianweller: good stuff, thanks! 17:16:19 ianweller: for reference, we're getting everyone to make a userpage on the sugar labs wiki, but they have to coordinate over IRC, they can't edit their own 17:16:21 okay, it's peter, going with my login now 17:16:26 phf = peter 17:16:52 ianweller: so queue up links to good wiki intros, figure out how to talk about what you've done and how you got started, etc. 17:17:23 mchua: 'wiki intros 17:17:29 ' -- as in intros to how wikis work? 17:17:34 ianweller: "I am new to mediawiki syntax" 17:17:35 ianweller: ...yeah 17:18:32 http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Textbook_Project 17:19:39 please add my feed to teachingopensource planet: http://mihaelasabin.wordpress.com/feed/ 17:21:16 created an account for bugs.sugarlab.org 17:28:01 mchua: created sugar labs wiki account 17:29:02 mchua: done with redhat accounts 17:30:11 mchua: created fedora account 17:30:30 i'll make someone's userpage if you'll make mine 17:30:31 volunteer now 17:30:33 ;-D 17:34:11 mchua: created redhat bugzilla account 17:34:30 userpage going once 17:34:36 going twice 17:34:50 phf: once mel stops talking... 17:34:59 kwurst: okay you're on 17:36:13 * quaid peeks in 17:36:22 ianweller: You're on! 17:36:27 #topic Ian Weller on Wikis 17:36:47 What's going to happen now: ianweller is going to talk about wikis and handle any questions folks have about syntax 17:37:00 in about 10 minutes I'm going to do a Mediawiki editing tutorial up front for those who are new and want to follow along 17:37:07 o hai 17:37:18 phf: Ok, what's your user page? 17:37:28 And in the meantime, everyone is (presumably) hopping into this channel to start coordinating their userpage editing with some buddy they can find in this channel... just like phf and kwurst did a moment ago. ;) 17:37:34 ianweller: Let 'er rip. 17:37:54 Ok. I have a wiki account, too. Who is going to edit my user page? 17:37:56 * quaid gets out the popcorn and prepares to heckle ianweller 17:38:01 quaid: oh you 17:38:06 popcorn? 17:38:09 so i'm just going to briefly explain what a wiki is, why fedora and other free software projects have a wiki, and some basics of MediaWiki syntax 17:38:30 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Kwurst 17:38:44 i assume that most of you have heard of wikipedia, since you live in academia. :) 17:38:59 kwurst: oh, it's phf so Phf on wiki 17:39:02 I am looking for someone to edit my page. Who is willing to do that? 17:39:04 phf: I need *your* page. 17:39:08 oh 17:39:09 lol 17:39:17 http://www.cs.jhu.edu/~phf/ 17:39:26 so basically put, a wiki is something that anybody can edit, expand upon, etc 17:39:30 Aparna: I can do it. Can you do mine? 17:39:40 free software projects like wikis because they lower the barrier to contribution by a ton 17:39:43 kwurst: read what i wrote for you before you make a serious attempt at copying my cv 17:39:46 Aparna: Just get Mahadev to do it, you won't need to tell him anything... 17:40:03 lol 17:40:04 * mchua grins 17:40:19 phf: So, what's your sugar labs wiki page? 17:40:47 i'm assuming most of you know how to edit a wiki since you're digging right in. does anybody have any questions about wikis or, more specifically, nuances in MediaWiki's setup and syntax? 17:41:04