13:02:07 <mburned> #startmeeting RDO weekly sync
13:02:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Mar 11 13:02:07 2014 UTC.  The chair is mburned. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:02:11 <mburned> #chair rbowen
13:02:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: mburned rbowen
13:02:24 <rbowen> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo_community_manager_sync
13:03:17 <rbowen> #topic Test Day
13:03:47 <rbowen> I copied all of our test cases over to the Fedora Test Day app. kashyap did you have a chance to look at that?
13:03:52 <mburned> rbowen: back in 2 min...
13:04:02 <rbowen> Did I do it right, in your opinion, or do I need to tweak it any?
13:04:15 <kashyap> rbowen, No, haven't. Been buried in bugzilla and other issues. Will take a look this week
13:04:30 <kashyap> rbowen, Can you post a URL here, please for reference
13:04:32 <rbowen> #info Test day stuff in the Fedora Test Day app for easier test reporting
13:04:34 <rbowen> #link http://testdays.qa.fedoraproject.org/testdays/show_event?event_id=16
13:04:43 <rbowen> #info metadata can be edited there too
13:04:52 <rbowen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-03-19_RDOMetadata
13:05:28 <rbowen> So what we're lacking there is some test instructions on some of them, and also any new test cases that need to be added for M3
13:05:38 * rbowen waits for mburned
13:06:17 <kashyap> rbowen, From a quick look, it looks cool
13:06:24 <kashyap> cool = useful
13:06:30 <rbowen> Ok, good.
13:06:40 <kashyap> I also see you've added the URLs where appropriate
13:06:43 <kashyap> and some still need them
13:06:54 <rbowen> Yes, there are several placeholder ones that I need to go back and hunt down content for.
13:08:02 <kashyap> Great.
13:08:06 * mburned back
13:08:47 <kashyap> Re: packages for test day
13:09:15 <rbowen> mburned: So, were were just talking about having test cases in the Fedora Test Day app.
13:09:24 <rbowen> But, yes, packages ...
13:09:39 <kashyap> I was trying to find what's available for Fedora (Rawhide/F21) at the moment
13:09:42 <mburned> #info test day scheduled for March 10-20
13:09:54 <red_trela> I think a little more consistency would be good, i.e. always call it either RHEL 7.0 or 7 and always use the some ordering for the different OSes
13:10:13 <rbowen> Ah. Sorry, I thought I had done. I'll run back through and verify.
13:10:17 <kashyap> rbowen, I see that, at a minimum - Nova, Neutron, Keystone have Milestone-3 packages for Rawhide/F20. Glance still needs to be updated.
13:10:40 <mburned> #info rbowen has added a lot of test cases to the test day app
13:11:01 <mburned> #info some cleanup still needed (consistent naming, consistent order for different OSes, etc)
13:11:08 <mburned> #info some need some additional content
13:11:29 <mburned> #info some packages exist already for rawhide/f21
13:11:40 <kashyap> mburned, Packages for Milestone-3
13:11:47 <mburned> #undo
13:11:47 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by mburned at 13:11:29 : some packages exist already for rawhide/f21
13:11:54 <mburned> #info some packages for milestone 3 exist already for rawhide/f21
13:12:03 <rbowen> Yeah, I haven't mentioned F21 at all in the test list.
13:12:20 <kashyap> EPEL-7 is in progress (pixelb and co are hard at work)
13:12:21 <kashyap> rbowen, Better not to mention F21 yet
13:12:26 <mburned> #info EPEL-7 is WIP
13:12:28 <red_trela> I'd consider testing on rawhide a waste of time
13:12:37 <kashyap> rbowen, Since there's a lot of changes going on upstream Fedora, F21 will be very late
13:12:52 <rbowen> Ok, just making sure. It didn't seem like something we'd want to spend energy on.
13:13:01 <kashyap> red_trela, Hmm, I don't. It depends _what_ you're trying to do
13:13:17 <kashyap> "testing" is a loaded term
13:14:04 <red_trela> kashyap: by the time F21 is released, we want to test Juno, not Icehouse...
13:14:16 <morazi> kashyap, I think red_trela raises a valid point though.  It is fine for the exceptionally bold and thick skinned to go after F21, but really I think rdo gets more value having folks test on platforms we expect to work....
13:14:30 <kashyap> red_trela, Yep, that's why I mentioned the upstream changes in Fedora land. We don't know _when_ F21 will come
13:14:36 <mburned> i would concentrate on f20/epel6/epel7
13:14:40 <rbowen> +1
13:14:45 <kashyap> morazi, Sure, F21 is not valid at this point
13:15:01 <kashyap> morazi, I meant to say only _current_ "stable", i.e - F20
13:15:06 <mburned> f21 feedback might be useful, but probably less so than the others
13:15:13 <red_trela> kashyap: we know it will be 2014/10/14 or later
13:15:41 <morazi> yea, priority wise, I suspect we'll go after fixes that impact epel7/epeal6/f20 in likely that order
13:16:38 <morazi> weshay, how are you feeling about the ability to have some CI going in advance of the 20th?
13:16:43 <mburned> #agreed we should concentrate on epel7/epel6/f20 in that order (fedora rawhide not a priority at this time)
13:17:13 <kashyap> morazi, Yep, that ordering sounds good
13:18:29 <kashyap> Any thing else on packages here?
13:18:35 <mburned> #action mburns to produce icehouse livecds as soon as packages are ready
13:18:42 <mburned> on at least epel6
13:18:46 <rbowen> Ok, so, we need to send some reminders and make sure folks are planning to set aside a little time for this.
13:19:01 <mburned> rbowen: you want to handle that?
13:19:04 <rbowen> Yes.
13:19:10 <mburned> #action rbowen to send reminders of the test day
13:19:24 <mburned> #chair kashyap
13:19:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: kashyap mburned rbowen
13:20:04 <rbowen> We can skip ahead if you have stuff you need to get back to. There's a few things I wanted to mention.
13:20:05 <kashyap> So, test days are 19, 20 March, right?
13:20:09 <rbowen> Yes, that's right.
13:20:35 <mburned> rbowen: let's go through, if i need to drop, i'll let you know and you can add notes...
13:20:43 <rbowen> ok, sounds good.
13:21:00 <mburned> #topic Hangout
13:21:13 <mburned> #info next hangout set for March 27
13:21:29 <mburned> #info topic is Marconi, host is flaper87
13:21:49 <rbowen> #link https://plus.google.com/events/ckjhm8rggnqvrnspftna845kubk
13:21:54 <flaper87> o/
13:22:18 <rbowen> flaper87: We should do a test hangout the day before to be sure that everything works, you can share your screen, and so on
13:22:29 <rbowen> Unless you've already done all that before.
13:22:41 <flaper87> rbowen: I have but I'd like to do the test anyway
13:22:48 <rbowen> ok, great.
13:23:13 <rbowen> next ...
13:23:22 <rbowen> #topic April Newsletter
13:23:34 <mburned> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo_apr_2014_newsletter
13:23:34 <rbowen> #info Looking for topics if there's anything you want to say in that.
13:23:52 <rbowen> Haven't got anything there.
13:24:21 <mburned> ;-)
13:24:32 <rbowen> next?
13:24:35 <mburned> #topic Engineer interviews
13:24:50 <mburned> #info interview with ohadlevy should be posted later today
13:24:58 <rbowen> I did an interview with Ohad yesterday, and got it all edited and produced yesterday. He just signed off on it, and I'll be posting that on the RDO site today.
13:25:05 <mburned> #info other interviews in the works
13:25:12 <rbowen> The audio quality isn't great, but it's a good interview.
13:25:17 <mburned> #info if interested, please contact rbowen
13:25:29 <rbowen> So, if you like to talk ... :-)
13:25:46 <rbowen> If you ahve a listen to Ohad's interview, later today, you can get an idea of kind of what I'm looking for.
13:26:11 <rbowen> #topic Upcoming Events
13:26:24 <mburned> #info April:  RH Summit -- booth
13:26:35 <mburned> #info mburns will be in attendance
13:26:41 <mburned> #info multiple presentations lined up
13:26:48 <mburned> #undo
13:26:48 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by mburned at 13:26:41 : multiple presentations lined up
13:26:51 <mburned> #info multiple demos lined up
13:26:58 <rbowen> We've got some nice demos in the works for RH Summit, and mburned will be coordinating the booth and demo schedule.
13:27:18 <rbowen> Kinda sorry to miss it, but I'll be still on the way back from another event.
13:27:32 <rbowen> And then some/most of those demos will get used again at the OpenStack Summit
13:27:44 <mburned> #info OpenStack summit in May
13:27:45 <rbowen> But if you're going to be at the OpenStack summit, and would like to demo something, please let me know.
13:28:02 <mburned> #info RDO will have a booth
13:28:14 <mburned> #info rbowen is a track chair for "Getting Started"
13:28:30 * kashyap has a quick note on next topic -- Bug Triage
13:28:46 <mburned> #info will likely reuse some of the same demos from RH Summit at Openstack Summit
13:28:46 <rbowen> I don't know how long it takes to make the schedule. I got done yesterday, but I presume other tracks are somewhat harder to put together.
13:29:13 <mburned> #info LinuxCon Japan also in May
13:29:20 <mburned> #info RDO will have a booth/table
13:29:24 <rbowen> And then later in May seems I'll be going to Tokyo, which I'm really stoked about.
13:29:37 <mburned> rbowen: and red_trela will be in attendance at the booth
13:29:39 <rbowen> And red_trela said he'd try to show up and help answer RDO questions.
13:29:47 <mburned> #info rbowen and red_trela will be in attendance at the booth
13:30:22 <rbowen> There will probably be a CentOS dojo, which is kind of an informal unconference sort of format.
13:30:39 <mburned> #info a CentOS dojo will likely also happen and LinuxCon Japan
13:30:57 <rbowen> So I don't really know what kind of sessions there will be in that. But the cloud SIG was a popular topic at the CentOS gathering at SCaLE, so I expect htat'll be part of it.
13:31:06 <mburned> cool
13:31:16 * mburned has no news on cloud sig this week again
13:31:29 <mburned> so moving ahead...
13:31:35 <mburned> #topic Bug triage
13:31:36 <rbowen> ok.
13:31:37 <mburned> kashyap: ?
13:31:52 <kashyap> Current status, we have around - 16 bugs (as of a few hours ago)
13:32:00 <kashyap> NEW, i.e.
13:32:14 <kashyap> 3 of them are CVEs (SecurityTracking bugs) --  that will be handled by SRT
13:32:29 <mburned> #info 16 open bugs as of a few hours ago
13:33:35 <kashyap> red_trela, Just a quick clarification (from reading scroll): I misread your Rawhide as F20 :-)  Sorry about that.
13:34:26 <mburned> #info 3 are security related, being handled by security experts
13:34:36 <mburned> kashyap: any other updates on the other 13?
13:34:47 <mburned> or just normal triage
13:35:42 <kashyap> mburned, Normal triage of components I have expertise on. Some bugs just need exotic storage
13:35:59 <mburned> #info other bugs going through normal triage
13:36:13 <mburned> #topic Forum
13:36:24 <mburned> rbowen: still 38 unanswered?
13:36:32 <rbowen> I got a lot of help last week, both marking topics as abandoned, and answering open ones.
13:36:42 <rbowen> Yes, 38 as of right now.
13:36:56 <rbowen> I wish there was a better way to track volume.
13:37:13 <mburned> #info 38 open questions
13:37:15 <rbowen> Because we closed about 20 last week, and had almost that many new opened, but we're not capturing those stats anywhere.
13:37:35 <rbowen> s/closed/answered/
13:37:50 <mburned> #info lot of work done last week answering and closing abandoned questions
13:37:59 <mburned> #info closed about 20 last week
13:38:09 <mburned> #info approx 20 more opened during that time
13:38:18 <mburned> #info need some better stat tracking
13:38:33 <rbowen> So I'm tracking how many unanswered there are every week, but it's a really unhelpful statstistic, because it doesn't really reflect traffic.
13:38:56 <rbowen> I need to figure something out there.
13:39:07 <mburned> rbowen: can we track "new" and unanswered?
13:39:36 <rbowen> I'll see what the API offers. I'm not sure.
13:39:53 <mburned> #info rbowen to investigate what else we can track
13:39:58 <mburned> #topic other topics
13:40:01 <mburned> anything else?
13:40:05 <rbowen> Nothing from me.
13:40:23 <kashyap> Nothing here either
13:40:29 <mburned> ok, thanks all
13:40:31 <mburned> #endmeeting