12:00:12 <kdhananjay> #startmeeting 12:00:12 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 2 12:00:12 2015 UTC. The chair is kdhananjay. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:12 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:00:37 <kdhananjay> #info agenda is available @ https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-community-meetings 12:00:46 <kdhananjay> #topic roll call 12:00:48 * anoopcs is here 12:00:53 * ndevos is present 12:01:00 * hagarth is here 12:01:09 * rjoseph is present 12:01:24 * tigert is in 12:01:35 * partner lurking 12:01:39 * skoduri is here 12:01:46 * jiffin is here 12:02:30 <kdhananjay> #topic Action items from last week 12:02:51 <kdhananjay> #topic raghu to fill in the contents for release schedule and ask tigert to push the page in gluster.org 12:03:18 <kdhananjay> Looks like raghu is not here. 12:03:27 <hagarth> kdhananjay: I think this was done 12:03:40 <kdhananjay> hagarth: OK great. 12:03:41 <ndevos> raghu doesnt seem to be there? maybe tigert has more info? 12:03:42 <lpabon> here 12:03:54 <hagarth> #link - http://www.gluster.org/community/release-schedule/ 12:04:07 <kdhananjay> hagarth: Cool! 12:04:18 <ndevos> ah, thanks! 12:04:39 <kdhananjay> #topic msvbhat/rastar to send update mailing list with a DiSTAF how-to and start discussion on enhancements to DiSTAF. 12:05:15 <ndevos> they posted a start for the improvements in the glusterfs-specs repo 12:05:43 <kdhananjay> ndevos: safe to say it's done? 12:05:48 <ndevos> #link DiSTAF improvements for review http://review.gluster.org/12048 12:06:00 * msvbhat joins late 12:06:05 <ndevos> kdhananjay: not sure, I would like to see an announcement and request for review on the mailinglist 12:06:13 <hagarth> ndevos: +1 12:06:29 * rafi joins late 12:06:34 <msvbhat> ndevos: Will send the review link to mailing list soon 12:06:35 * rastar joins late 12:06:37 * poornimag joins late 12:06:44 <ndevos> msvbhat: okay, thanks! 12:07:04 <ndevos> kdhananjay: so, not done yet, check/remind msvbhat next week again? 12:07:35 <kdhananjay> #action msvbhat to make announcement on DiSTAF enhabcements and review request on the mailing list 12:07:55 <kdhananjay> Moving on ... 12:08:02 <kdhananjay> #topic kshlm to check back with misc on the new jenkins slaves. 12:08:10 <kdhananjay> kshlm not here. 12:08:18 <kdhananjay> Does anyone else have an update on this perhaps? 12:09:02 <hagarth> no clue on this one 12:09:05 <kdhananjay> Err... I guess not. 12:09:16 <kdhananjay> hagarth: OK. Will retain this for the next week. 12:09:27 <kdhananjay> #topic kslm to send out an announcement regarding the approaching deadline for Gluster 3.7 next week. 12:09:42 <kdhananjay> Think he did this. 12:09:47 <ndevos> thats done, and the release happened too 12:09:59 <kdhananjay> Great. 12:10:23 <ndevos> packaging is in progress, and when most distributions are ready there will be an announcement 12:10:41 <kdhananjay> Right. 12:10:50 <kdhananjay> On to the next topic. 12:10:53 <kdhananjay> #topic hchiramm to improve release documentation 12:11:01 <kdhananjay> hchiramm not here/ 12:11:11 <kdhananjay> Anyone else who has an update on this? 12:11:39 <rastar> I don't think we made any progress on this 12:11:49 <kdhananjay> OK. 12:11:53 <rastar> it needs a discussion too, possibly on open floor? 12:12:01 * raghu arrives late 12:12:01 <ndevos> what is "release documentation"? 12:12:22 <rastar> Jeff wanted a place for tracking features 12:12:26 <rastar> feature planning etc 12:12:44 <ndevos> ah, okay -> open floor :) 12:12:47 <rastar> None of gluster-docs, gluster-spec and glusterfs repo are place for this 12:12:49 <kdhananjay> ;) 12:13:36 <kdhananjay> #topic raghu to announce 3.6.5 on mailing lists 12:14:16 * overclk is late to the meeting.. 12:14:17 <kdhananjay> raghu: ^^ 12:14:52 <kdhananjay> or for that matter anyone else who has seen this announcement on the lists :) 12:15:12 <anoopcs> That's done. 12:15:17 <anoopcs> #link http://www.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-devel/2015-August/046570.html 12:15:25 <kdhananjay> anoopcs: Ah great. Thanks! 12:15:41 <kdhananjay> Moving on .. 12:15:51 <kdhananjay> #topic krishnan_p to update Gluster News about Gluster.next progress 12:16:00 <kdhananjay> krishnan_p absent. 12:16:19 <kdhananjay> Anyone else who could represent this? 12:16:25 <jdarcy> There have been some updates sent for sub-projects. Much appreciated. 12:16:32 <ndevos> its not on https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-weekly-news yet 12:17:14 <kdhananjay> OK. Adding this for discussion next week. 12:17:24 <kdhananjay> #action krishnan_p to update Gluster News about Gluster.next progress 12:17:37 <kdhananjay> #topic krishnan_p to send an email about nanomsg.org to gluster-dev 12:17:45 <jdarcy> Saw that. 12:18:02 <kdhananjay> OK great! 12:18:19 <kdhananjay> #topic GlusterFS 3.7 12:18:53 <kdhananjay> Anything to talk about here? 12:19:04 <hagarth> 3.7.4 update happened before here. 12:19:15 <hagarth> any volunteers for release manager of 3.7.5? 12:19:58 * ndevos looks at the MAINTAINERS file 12:20:22 <hagarth> we don't have to find one right away. i will post a note on devel asking for volunteers. 12:20:32 <ndevos> maybe we could randomly pick someone from that file? 12:21:29 <hagarth> ndevos: yes, we could do a roulette with names from there :) 12:21:56 <ndevos> hagarth: yeah: git show origin/master:MAINTAINERS | grep '^M:' | sort -u 12:22:06 <hagarth> kdhananjay: that's pretty much about 3.7.x 12:22:32 <kdhananjay> hagarth: So do we do this in the ML? Or offline? 12:23:03 <ndevos> hagarth: probably try maintainers@gluster.org ? 12:23:15 <hagarth> kdhananjay: will try on gluster-devel 12:23:21 <kdhananjay> OK. 12:23:54 <kdhananjay> #action hagarth to post a note on gluster-devel asking for volunteers for the role of release maintainer for 3.7.5 12:24:13 <kdhananjay> #topic GlusterFS 3.6 12:24:24 <kdhananjay> raghu: Anything to talk about here? 12:24:43 <raghu> kdhananjay: nope. Just done with 3.6.5 12:24:51 <raghu> more backports for 3.6.6 are welcome 12:25:04 <raghu> will be making 3.6.6. on 20th of september 12:25:21 <kdhananjay> #info Backports to release-3.6 for towards the 3.6.6 release are welcome. 12:25:40 <kdhananjay> #info raghu to make 3.6.6 on 20th of September 12:25:49 <kdhananjay> Moving on .. 12:25:59 <kdhananjay> #topic GlusterFS 3.5 12:26:21 <kdhananjay> Does poornimag still need volunteers to help backport glfs_fini patches? 12:26:21 <ndevos> not much progress to report here 12:26:31 <kdhananjay> ndevos: Cool. 12:26:44 <ndevos> yeah, we still would like to get the backports in, someone would need to work on that 12:27:06 <kdhananjay> #info poornimag needs help in porting glfs_fini patches to 3.5 12:27:14 <poornimag> regarding this 12:28:01 <ndevos> bug 1134050 contains the list of patches that need backporting... 12:28:36 <poornimag> after discussing with the team, it doesn't sound like backporting is a great idea, and since there are no volunteers yet 12:28:54 <poornimag> i would suggest, i will send a mail on devel 12:29:14 <kdhananjay> poornimag: OK. Sounds good. 12:29:20 <poornimag> and if there are volunteers keen on putting the required effort will go ahead 12:29:30 <poornimag> else we drop it 12:29:43 <ndevos> poornimag: yeah, thats a good approach 12:30:07 <kdhananjay> #action poornimag to send a mail on gluster-devel asking for volunteers to backport glfs_fini patches to release-3.5 12:30:07 <poornimag> so the AI on me will be to send a mail on devel and co-ordinate with volunteers if any 12:30:21 <ndevos> poornimag: also, 3.8 might be ready in december or so, users will need to update from 3.5 by then anyway 12:30:38 <poornimag> oh thats good news:) 12:31:10 <kdhananjay> Alright. Moving on ... 12:31:23 <kdhananjay> #topic GlusterFS 3.8 12:31:41 <kdhananjay> hagarth: You have anything to add here? 12:31:59 <poornimag> After discussing with the co-developers i would like to propose Leases feature for 3.8 12:32:10 <hagarth> nothing much atm, I am working on providing more details on 3.8 soon on the MLs. 12:32:15 <rastar> share reservations/share modes from my side for 3.8 12:32:21 <poornimag> on behalf of skoduri, rjoseph, rtalur 12:32:24 <hagarth> poornimag, rastar: fantastic! 12:33:40 <kdhananjay> OK then, on to next topic. 12:33:48 <kdhananjay> #topic GlusterFS 4.0 12:34:01 <kdhananjay> jdarcy: ^^ 12:34:25 <jdarcy> Ohters have sent updates on GlusterD 2.0, DHT 2.0. 12:34:42 <jdarcy> I'm still getting back on my feet from multiple vacations, starting to dive in on NSR. 12:35:26 <jdarcy> Relatedly, we're having a meetup September 14 @ Facebook HQ, where there seems to be interest in Gluster.Next features. 12:35:36 <jdarcy> Dan, Shyam, and I are all going. 12:35:43 <kdhananjay> Cool! 12:35:49 <jdarcy> http://www.meetup.com/GlusterFS-Silicon-Valley/events/224932563/ 12:36:18 <ndevos> we really need a calendar on our website... 12:36:26 <jdarcy> +3 12:37:24 <lpabon> jdarcy: that sounds interesting 12:38:05 <jdarcy> Should be. Looking forward to seeing who else will be there. 12:38:30 <hagarth> there's also a meetup in BLR on september 12th 12:38:45 <hagarth> http://www.meetup.com/glusterfs-India/events/222201221/ 12:39:00 <kdhananjay> #info GlusterFS meetup in Bengaluru on September 12th - http://www.meetup.com/glusterfs-India/events/222201221/ 12:39:44 <ndevos> who would like to organise a meeting in Amsterdam? 12:40:35 <ndevos> ... not all at once please! 12:41:59 <hagarth> anything else on 4.0? 12:42:03 <kdhananjay> Ok, I guess I'll move on to the next topic ;) 12:42:06 <jdarcy> hagarth: Nope. 12:42:15 <kdhananjay> #topic Open Floor 12:42:19 <jdarcy> ndevos: Organize? Nope. Attend? Abso-fing-lutely. ;) 12:42:22 * justinclift arrives late 12:42:28 <hagarth> justinclift: :O 12:42:43 <kdhananjay> rastar: You were saying something about release documentation 12:42:50 * hagarth better late than ... ;) 12:42:51 <kdhananjay> Now is your time :) 12:42:53 <ndevos> jdarcy: that counts two of us :) 12:42:56 <justinclift> hagarth: Well, I did leave a bunch of stuff still needing to be done… ;) 12:43:24 <hagarth> ndevos: if you sponsor my travel, happy to organize the meetup :D 12:43:36 <rastar> yes just a min 12:43:59 <rastar> jdarcy: this is about a place to document release planning 12:43:59 <ndevos> hagarth: I can sponsor your "hotel" :P 12:44:23 <rastar> we haven't got any good suggestions on that.. 12:44:23 <jdarcy> hagarth: I don't have anything to report on that, but it's still something we need. 12:44:49 <hagarth> rastar: I wonder if a summary status page on gluster.org is all what we need 12:44:58 <rastar> kshlm suggested using gluster.org 12:45:09 <rastar> hagarth: yes that is what kshlm and I agreed on 12:45:29 <ndevos> jdarcy: what kind of release planning are you thinking of? got examples from other projects? 12:45:34 <hagarth> rastar: sounds good to me. we can always keep that page updated. 12:45:47 <rastar> but it means changing website 12:45:54 <rastar> is there some easier alternative? 12:46:02 <jdarcy> ndevos: Nothing heavyweight, just a list of subprojects with %done and upcoming milestones. 12:46:06 <hagarth> rastar: I doubt 12:46:13 <ndevos> jdarcy: ah, ok 12:46:14 <hagarth> ndevos: possibly something like this - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/kilo 12:46:53 <rastar> ok, lets go ahead and try a page on gluster.org 12:47:05 <lpabon> why not use launchpad.net ? like hagarth said.. it has a great method of doing release management and announcements 12:47:06 <jdarcy> hagarth: Kind of, but I think it'd be nice to have progress info as well (even if it's a SWAG). 12:48:09 <hagarth> jdarcy: this is probably more relevant - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/liberty 12:48:13 <jdarcy> lpabon: I could live with it. I think I even have an account already. 12:48:16 <hagarth> as it is an ongoing dev cycle 12:49:34 <ndevos> hmm, looks interesting 12:49:40 <hagarth> rastar: maybe we should start a discussion on our MLs highlighting various options 12:49:44 <justinclift> Yeah 12:49:49 <lpabon> +1 12:50:10 <justinclift> Launchpad also enables other stuff - like translations - pretty easily 12:50:19 <justinclift> That *might* turn out to be useful 12:50:45 <kdhananjay> rastar: Would you be taking this up? 12:50:49 <lpabon> and .. sorry to say... a better bug tracker .. >.> 12:50:55 <justinclift> :D 12:51:54 <kdhananjay> rastar or hchiramm 12:52:15 <ndevos> there is also http://taiga.cloud.fedoraproject.org/ that should provide kanban/scrum like tracking of features 12:52:38 * ndevos hasnt tried it yet, but would be willing to 12:53:24 <hagarth> ok, let us discuss and arrive at a workflow 12:53:28 <jdarcy> I'm looking at Taiga and OrangeScrum right now. 12:53:59 <lpabon> ndevos: interesting.. i'll check it out 12:55:37 <kdhananjay> we've got 5 more minutes left. 12:55:39 <hagarth> justinclift: have you seen the announcement on forge? 12:55:42 <rastar> kdhananjay: yes, ai on me for sending a mail to start it out 12:55:58 <justinclift> hagarth: No. I tried loading the forge last night, and it wasn’t responding at all 12:56:00 <kdhananjay> rastar: Cool rastar 12:56:20 <justinclift> hagarth: Figured I better get off my arse and get it done :) 12:56:36 <hagarth> justinclift: rather kshlm's announcement on forge in our MLs 12:56:41 <justinclift> Ahhh 12:56:44 * justinclift goes looking 12:56:53 * justinclift isn’t subscribed any more 12:57:17 <jdarcy> If there's already a Fedora-hosted instance of Taiga, that seems like an instant front-runner to me. 12:57:27 <kdhananjay> #action rastar to initiate discussion on exploring the different approaches towards doing GlusterFS release management and announcements 12:57:40 <ndevos> jdarcy: yeah, I'd like to try that 12:57:40 <justinclift> hagarth: Found it: http://www.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-devel/2015-September/046626.html 12:57:50 <hagarth> justinclift: right, that is the one 12:58:13 <kdhananjay> 2 more minutes to go before we wrap up 12:58:37 <justinclift> hagarth: The migration status for each of the projects is/was tracked in the repo I was working on: https://github.com/gluster/forge/blob/master/old_forge_repos.txt 12:58:49 <justinclift> hagarth: I’m not sure if Kaushal is working from that 12:58:52 <hagarth> justinclift: right, kshlm is looking into that. 12:59:05 <hagarth> justinclift: maybe you can drop him a note for better co-ordination 12:59:09 <justinclift> Yeah 12:59:13 <justinclift> Will do :) 12:59:34 <kdhananjay> Anything else we want to discuss? 12:59:49 <kdhananjay> #info REMINDER to put (even minor) interesting topics on https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-weekly-news 12:59:56 <kdhananjay> #info REMINDER to announce Gluster attendance of events: https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-events 13:00:07 <justinclift> Email to Kaushal sent 13:00:13 <hagarth> justinclift: fantastic, thanks! 13:00:52 <kdhananjay> OK I guess not. 13:01:01 <kdhananjay> Thanks everyone for attending the meeting! 13:01:04 <hagarth> kdhananjay: thanks for hosting this meeting! 13:01:05 <kdhananjay> See you next week. 13:01:08 <kdhananjay> #endmeeting