12:02:07 <rafi> #startmeeting
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12:02:50 <rafi> time for todays bug trige meeting
12:03:05 <rafi> #info Agenda https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bug-triage
12:03:27 <rafi> #topic roll call
12:03:56 <rafi> let's see who all are with us
12:03:58 <rafi> :)
12:06:03 <rafi> let's wait for some time
12:09:12 * skoduri is here
12:09:44 * jiffin is here
12:09:53 * kkeithley_blr is late
12:10:05 <meghanam> meghanam is here
12:10:41 * ndevos looks around
12:11:25 <rafi> #chair meghanam
12:11:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: meghanam rafi
12:12:28 <rafi> moving to next topic
12:12:54 <meghanam> #topic status of last week's action items
12:13:34 <rafi> #info Agenda https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bug-triage
12:14:22 <meghanam> #topic     pranithk will send a reminder on how to find and fix bugs, attract new contributors
12:14:41 <meghanam> pranithk is on leave today
12:14:50 <meghanam> Can anyone else update on this?
12:15:18 <ndevos> I think Pranith can do that next week :)
12:15:24 <saurabh_> ok
12:15:48 <meghanam> #action  pranithk will send a reminder on how to find and fix bugs, attract new contributors
12:15:59 <meghanam> moving to next topic
12:16:24 <meghanam> #topic     hagarth start/sync email on regular (nightly) automated tests
12:17:00 <meghanam> moving it to next week
12:17:15 <meghanam> #action  hagarth start/sync email on regular (nightly) automated tests
12:17:29 <rafi> #topic someone will send a reminder to the users- and devel- ML about (and how to) fixing Coverity defects
12:18:04 <meghanam> I don't remember seeing it on the list.
12:18:15 <rafi> any one need to take this action item ?
12:19:32 <skoduri> I can take this one
12:19:37 <ndevos> I think that is basically for pranith>?
12:19:44 <skoduri> I can check with lalatenduM who had done that before
12:20:00 <skoduri> I am okay if it can be clubbed with
12:20:03 <skoduri> pranith's AI
12:20:04 <meghanam> Thanks Soumya
12:20:04 <skoduri> :)
12:20:12 <ndevos> combine the "find + fix bugs" with coverity :)
12:20:30 <skoduri> sounds good ;)
12:20:55 <meghanam> #action soumya to send send a reminder to the users- and devel- ML about (and how to find and  fix ) Coverity defects
12:21:07 <rafi> moving to next action item
12:21:27 <rafi> #topic lalatenduM and ndevos need to think about and decide how to provide/use debug builds
12:21:36 <rafi> ndevos: do you want to update ?
12:21:43 <rafi> on this ?
12:21:50 <ndevos> we're still thinking about that... sometimes
12:23:01 <ndevos> once distaf is in place for testing ,we can do tests with debug builds
12:24:35 <kkeithley_blr> when we say "debug builds" what are we really saying?  Compiled -g -O0 and installing the -debuginfo RPM during testing?  (versus compiled -g -O2 and the -debuginfo RPM isn't installed during testing)
12:25:19 <ndevos> builds with "./configure --enable-debug"
12:25:52 <ndevos> and yes, using RPMs
12:26:01 <kkeithley_blr> which I think means compile with -g -O0, correct?
12:26:34 <ndevos> probably, I would need to check
12:27:24 <jiffin> kkeithley_blr: yes , i think so
12:28:23 <ndevos> rafi, meghanam: next topic?
12:28:42 <rafi> #topic group triage
12:28:47 <meghanam> #info 19 new bugs that have not been triaged yet : http://goo.gl/WuDQun
12:29:15 <meghanam> We have an etherpad. Each of you can select a bug and write your name against it.
12:29:34 <ndevos> nice, got a link to the etherpad?
12:29:37 <meghanam> https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/fSV06Zf7H0
12:29:51 <meghanam> The etherpad is empty though.
12:30:00 <meghanam> Can you help us put the bug numbers there?
12:30:12 <ndevos> hmm, wasnt there an etherpad in a previous meeting?
12:30:18 <ndevos> it had the command to create the contents
12:30:53 <ndevos> this one: https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bugs-to-triage
12:31:23 <ndevos> but I did not add those bugs listed there, they are less than 19, so I dont know if that is current?
12:32:58 <skoduri> I have updated the etherpad https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/fSV06Zf7H0
12:33:06 <skoduri> with the bugs from the query
12:33:17 <meghanam> Thanks skoduri
12:33:38 <rafi> let's start triaging :)
12:33:51 <jiffin> rafi: which etherpad??
12:33:56 * hchiramm_ locks 1252374
12:34:00 * ndevos corrected https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bugs-to-triage
12:34:22 <ndevos> hchiramm_: we use etherpad locking now :)
12:34:24 <skoduri> okay so which one are we using ? :)
12:34:39 <hchiramm_> ndevos, :)
12:34:39 <skoduri> lets use https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bugs-to-triage ?
12:34:47 <rafi> skoduri: yes
12:34:48 <meghanam> yes
12:34:50 <skoduri> okay
12:34:51 * ndevos waits for rafi and meghanam to make a call
12:35:09 <skoduri> meghanam, you need to strike that line as well
12:35:19 <rafi> hchiramm_: pls use this etherpad and add your name to the line
12:35:28 <meghanam> skoduri: Yes. Once I am done triaging.
12:35:31 <rafi> hchiramm_: and strike off once you finished
12:36:22 <ndevos> rafi, hchiramm_: not when finished, strike through when going to triage?
12:36:36 <hchiramm_> rafi, yeah, strike when u take that
12:36:41 <meghanam> ok
12:38:19 <ndevos> kkeithley_blr: you know we use the etherpad-locking now, RIGHT!?
12:38:48 <kkeithley_blr> ndevos: yes, that's what I think I'm doing
12:39:11 <kkeithley_blr> s/think/believe/
12:39:22 <ndevos> kkeithley_blr: hmm, I dont see your name in any of the bugs, and the one I just wanted to triage was already done by you...
12:39:51 <kkeithley_blr> 1251821 has my name and strike-through on my screen
12:40:00 <meghanam> kkeithley_blr, https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/gluster-bugs-to-triage
12:40:08 <meghanam> that's the one we're using now.
12:41:28 <kkeithley_blr> sigh
12:48:56 <ndevos> rafi, meghanam: all triaged?
12:49:08 <meghanam> Not yet.
12:50:25 * ndevos patiently waits
12:50:47 <rafi> ndevos: do you want to look into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1252302 ?
12:51:31 <rafi> ndevos: I'm not familiar with BD-xlators
12:51:50 <ndevos> rafi: what makes you think I am?
12:52:07 <rafi> ndevos: you are ndevos :)
12:52:17 <rafi> *because
12:52:35 * ndevos feels recursive
12:52:56 <skoduri> ndevos, kkeithley any idea who maintains BD xlator?
12:53:13 <skoduri> ohh sorry haven't checked history
12:53:15 <ndevos> mohan from IBM, I think... well, 'maintains'
12:53:30 <skoduri> do you know the mail-id?
12:54:11 <skoduri> got it - mohan@in.ibm.com
12:54:40 <ndevos> I think all the details in that bug are clear enough
12:54:50 <skoduri> right
12:54:56 <ndevos> it even mentions to not use readdirp and the problem does not occur
12:55:04 <rafi> ndevos: skoduri : let us know when you guys finishes with 1250786 and 250786 ?
12:55:36 * ndevos is done with the bugs, he put one on NEEDINFO
12:56:00 <rafi> ndevos: ok
12:56:25 <meghanam> done with group triage
12:56:31 <meghanam> Moving forward
12:56:32 * ndevos \o/
12:56:41 <meghanam> #topic open floor
12:57:00 <meghanam> Is there anything you want to discuss?
12:57:46 <ndevos> make sure to include the etherpad for the triage/locking next time :)
12:58:05 <ndevos> and prepare it, install the python-bugzilla package on your machines
12:58:42 <meghanam> Sure Niels. Sorry for the inconvenience. We started a little late today.
12:58:58 <ndevos> no problem :)
12:59:01 <rafi> it is hard to know whether some one finished triging a bug or not
12:59:17 <ndevos> oh, yes, not sure how we can improve that
12:59:18 <rafi> it is difficult to keep refreshing the bug list
12:59:42 <rafi> that's why i was telling to strike only if we finish it
13:00:03 <rafi> add name when we lock it, and strike when we finish
13:00:07 <rafi> what do you think ?
13:00:08 <ndevos> I guess we could do that, and prepend the bug-lines with your name
13:00:09 <rafi> ndevos: hchiramm_
13:00:23 <meghanam> That sounds  better actually
13:00:31 <meghanam> #agreed
13:00:33 <ndevos> just update the instructions in the etherpad, so that we can try it next week
13:01:00 <hchiramm_> rafi, too much process to triage a bug :)
13:01:03 <meghanam> #agreed to prepend the name when we take a bug to triage and strike when we finish
13:01:10 <skoduri> and a reminder to look into those changed instructions :)
13:01:18 <rafi> hchiramm_: propose a new idea :)
13:01:53 <hchiramm_> sure.. here it is
13:02:28 <meghanam> #action on rafi to update the etherpad on new instructions for bug triaging
13:02:34 <hchiramm_> ndevos
13:02:40 <hchiramm_> 123
13:02:42 <hchiramm_> 234
13:02:49 <hchiramm_> rafi
13:02:50 <ndevos> 567
13:02:51 <hchiramm_> 456
13:02:54 <hchiramm_> 678
13:03:12 <hchiramm_> just put the name of attendees and divide the list
13:03:14 <hchiramm_> :)
13:03:38 <ndevos> well, some bugs will take more time to triage than others?
13:04:00 <ndevos> and, not everyone feels comfortable to triage all components
13:04:25 <meghanam> And not everybody will be there for the entire meeting right?
13:04:33 <ndevos> thats possible too
13:04:41 <ndevos> we also have regular late joiners
13:04:54 * rafi believes ndevos and hchiramm_ are exceptional
13:04:57 <ndevos> ... and people pushing me to leave
13:05:35 * meghanam wonders why
13:06:03 * ndevos points to the clock
13:06:56 <meghanam> Are there any other opinions?
13:07:04 <ndevos> NO! :D
13:07:58 <meghanam> Alright then. We'll put the new instructions on the etherpad and see you tomorrow for the community meeting!
13:08:11 <meghanam> #endmeeting