21:16:38 <rdieter> #startmeeting yum and friends
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21:16:45 <rdieter> starting a bit late...
21:16:49 <rdieter> #topic yum history
21:16:53 <rdieter> commands:
21:17:05 <rdieter> List, Summary, Info, Undo, Redo/repeat, New
21:17:12 <rdieter> examples...
21:17:16 <rdieter> yum history list
21:18:50 <rdieter> yum history summary
21:19:44 <rdieter> seth rants on zsh a little bit...
21:19:56 <rdieter> an example of something he installs, uninstalls a lot
21:20:04 <rdieter> yum history info
21:21:39 <rdieter> yum history undo
21:22:36 <rdieter> warning, don't undo ...say... upgrade f11 -> f12.   :)
21:22:55 <rdieter> or if the version you want to back down to no longer exists in any available repo
21:24:20 <rdieter> yum history redo
21:24:58 <rdieter> yum history new
21:30:54 <rdieter> mentions... the "Warning: RPMDB has been altered since the last yum transaction", ie, rpm was used in between
21:31:08 <rdieter> #topic yum version
21:31:39 <rdieter> generate a unique identifier for the current installed set of pkigs or a specific set of pkgs.  Useful for quickly comparing systems
21:33:25 <rdieter> #topic other new items
21:33:32 <rdieter> yum version was one of those new items (sorry)
21:34:01 <rdieter> SSL certificates for authentication to repositories
21:34:20 <rdieter> yum downgrade
21:36:06 <rdieter> #topic new items (and friends)
21:36:23 <rdieter> createrepo:  deltarpms, arbitrary-url for pkgs, mergerepos
21:38:01 <rdieter> yum-utils: needs-restarting
21:39:42 <rdieter> #topic Find new things
21:40:03 <rdieter> #link http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/whatsnew
21:40:24 <rdieter> #topic future plans
21:40:38 <rdieter> Weakdeps?
21:41:05 <rdieter> policy is a hard part...
21:41:27 <rdieter> weakdops not in packages, but be in external metadata
21:43:35 <rdieter> * tags/keyword searching from fedora's packagedb
21:44:36 <rdieter> adding external metadata tied into pkgdb to help searching
21:45:23 <rdieter> summary/description translation files (ie, doing specspo better)
21:46:21 <rdieter> use translated forms of the metadata
21:47:09 <rdieter> work in progress, work needs to happen to translate *lots* of stuff
21:47:09 <rdieter> python 3.0 compat?
21:47:45 <rdieter> Api breaking?
21:48:23 <rdieter> Parallel downloads?  (on short list)
21:49:45 <rdieter> what else do we need?
21:50:53 <rdieter> yum-complate-transaction ...
21:51:07 <rdieter> helps aborted transactions, but need to be careful.
21:52:52 <rdieter> #topic credits
21:52:59 <rdieter> James Antill
21:53:01 <rdieter> Tim Lauridisen
21:53:08 <rdieter> Ville Skytta
21:53:39 <rdieter> many many translators
21:53:47 <rdieter> yum is now using transifex
21:53:52 <rdieter> #topic help needed
21:54:14 <rdieter> if interested in helping out, contact yum-devel mailing list,  yum-devel@lists.baseurl.org
21:54:44 <rdieter> docs
21:54:48 <rdieter> #topic Q&A
21:55:07 <rdieter> This is where we ask Seth difficult questions about why yum sucks and/or he sucks.
21:55:10 <rdieter> :)
21:56:40 <rdieter> #endmeeting