20:04:20 <spevack> #startmeeting 20:04:20 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Dec 5 20:04:20 2009 UTC. The chair is spevack. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:04:20 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:05:48 <spevack> #topic How To Join The Fedora Community 20:05:54 <spevack> Speakers -- Bert Desmet and Yaakov Nemoy 20:06:10 <spevack> 30 second video cartoon being shown 20:06:14 <spevack> penguins being attacked by a shark 20:06:24 <spevack> penguins are smarter than the stupid shark 20:06:30 <spevack> "it's smarter to travel in groups" is the tag line 20:06:34 * mchua thanks spevack for notes, yay! 20:06:51 <spevack> #link http://join.fedoraproject.org 20:07:13 <spevack> Yaakov -- let's get to know the 3 newbies in the room 20:07:28 <spevack> Where are you coming from, etc? 20:07:52 <spevack> Guy #1 -- student at Seneca. Getting in-depth w/ Fedora through Chris Tyler's software building and release class. 20:08:00 <spevack> Contributing by trying to get stuff packaged 20:08:25 <spevack> Fedora 13 deliverables. 20:08:35 <spevack> Started focusing on Fedora specifically this semester. 20:08:42 <spevack> Yaakov -- are you looking to get more involved in development? 20:09:01 <spevack> Answer -- goal is to get more involved, period. 20:09:36 <spevack> Guy #2 -- Got to know about fedora 10 weeks ago. 20:09:46 <spevack> And loves it! Wants to see how to contribute. 20:09:56 <spevack> Computer Systems Technology student 20:10:41 <spevack> #link http://join.fedoraproject.org 20:11:12 <spevack> Yaakov -- a lot of Fedora is focused around the primary OS development. 20:11:22 <spevack> Yaakov -- surrounding that is the infrastructure -- web admins, sysadmins, etc. 20:11:33 <spevack> Yaakov -- furthermore, there is a huge packaging community. 20:11:53 <spevack> Yaakov -- finally, a giant ecosystem of docs, other projects built on Fedora, etc. Ambassadors, Design, communications, etc. 20:13:46 <anthro-diana> Spevack starts talking about his experience working at RH & RH product managers 20:15:08 <anthro-diana> Experience in an open source community is essential to being able to further the community in other ways 20:15:23 <anthro-diana> Relationships are important to the community 20:16:47 <anthro-diana> Interesting thing for anyone who wants to build their career in this business does well to start with fedora because of the community knowledge and expertise 20:28:02 <spevack> spevack hijacks the talk, and thus the notes fell apart 20:29:37 <anthro-diana> Turning Googlers into Contributors 20:30:13 <spevack> Max did his standard "pyramid of contribution" spiel 20:30:26 <spevack> Googlers -> bug filers -> patchers -> key developers 20:30:34 <spevack> Solve YOUR PROBLEMS using Fedora as a tool 20:31:48 <spevack> etc 20:32:53 <spevack> Yaakov shows off some Fedora tools 20:33:00 <spevack> #link http://planet.fedoraproject.org 20:33:15 <spevack> #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/ 20:46:27 * mchua asks: are there types of contributors we haven't seen (or seen very much of) yet that we'd particularly like to see more of? 20:47:01 * mchua is thinking of invisible traceback folks here - who would we, individually, like to ask to participate? 20:51:29 <anthro-diana> Some people join after tinkering others join after finding the community was the best fit without ever using the distro first 20:52:19 <mchua> wow, how do people find the community in the latter case? 20:52:24 <anthro-diana> Question I have - what made the community a good fit and what do people hope to get out of joining it 20:53:01 <anthro-diana> Haven't got to ask yet mchua 20:53:22 <anthro-diana> talk is jumpin around a lot 20:53:30 * spevack is exceedingly frustrated 20:54:00 <anthro-diana> I'll ask in my panel though! 20:54:09 <spevack> good 20:56:09 <mchua> anthro-diana, spevack: raise hand, ask question doesn't work? 20:56:55 <spevack> there have been some questions, mchua 20:57:18 <spevack> yaakov is answering one now about security & linux 20:57:37 <spevack> It's almost time for the next session 20:57:42 <spevack> #endmeeting