23:01:08 <yn1v> #startmeeting FUDCon Planning Managua 2014
23:01:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 25 23:01:08 2014 UTC.  The chair is yn1v. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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23:01:31 <echeve> I think we can start with the attendees
23:01:54 <yn1v> Welcome to the meeting, we will handle most of the talking in English for the benefit of people beyond LATAM
23:02:09 <echeve> Roger that
23:02:31 <yn1v> Please feel free to write Spanish or Portuguese at any time
23:03:03 <yn1v> Let's do a small recap
23:04:04 <fer> holap
23:04:08 <yn1v> we have a lot of tickets. I closed all tickets with September dates as it was unrealistic to get to those
23:04:31 <yn1v> fer cualquier cosa preguntas en español
23:05:16 <echeve> yn1v give me chair please
23:05:17 <yn1v> I have a misunderstanding about how to proceed with tickets purchase and I was pointed out
23:05:27 <yn1v> #chair echeve
23:05:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: echeve yn1v
23:05:57 <yn1v> we are a bit late for buying, but we will sort things out
23:06:03 <fer> do not worry Neville
23:06:23 * williamjmorenor entrando de la escuela fedora
23:06:30 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor
23:06:31 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
23:06:50 <yn1v> last meeting we voted to go for latam tickets first and then to tickets outside latam
23:06:57 * williamjmorenor mayorga estaba conmigo en la escuela fedora en la UCC esta camino a su casa
23:07:01 <yn1v> #chair williamjmorenor
23:07:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: echeve williamjmorenor yn1v
23:07:11 <fer> .fas espasmo
23:07:12 <zodbot> fer: espasmo 'Fernando Espinoza ' <herculesoplimpus@gmail.com>
23:07:26 <yn1v> does anybody else wants a chair ?
23:07:40 <echeve> y1nv, what is the misunderstanding?
23:08:15 <yn1v> how much money I can execute with the cummunity credit card
23:08:43 <echeve> Oh ok.
23:09:11 <yn1v> so, after that brief recap, let's get into the meeting
23:09:18 <yn1v> #topic rollcall
23:09:27 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
23:09:28 <fer> I hear
23:09:28 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
23:09:35 * yn1v Nicaragua
23:09:35 <echeve> . fas e
23:09:36 <zodbot> echeve: jacobben85 'Jacob Benny John' <jacobben85@gmail.com> - abc1b2b34e 'roberto ramirez carbonell' <stone22062@hotmail.com> - zhangjainxiang 'zhangjianxiang' <feilong4@gmail.com> - doncot 'Don Chen' <don@7mix.net> - otcmirror 'OTC Security' <mirror-admin@otc.edu> - wayne5491 'Dylan Ferry' <wayne5491@gmail.com> - ruslanbr '' <ruslan5327@rambler.ru> - romal 'Robert M. Albrecht' <mail@romal.de> - georgekada 'george (50 more messages)
23:09:46 <echeve> . fas echevemaster
23:09:47 <zodbot> echeve: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
23:09:54 * echeve Venezuela
23:10:04 <TonetJallo> hello
23:10:12 <TonetJallo> .fas tonet666p
23:10:13 <zodbot> TonetJallo: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' <tonet666p@gmail.com>
23:10:20 <bernardoha_> .fas bernardoha
23:10:22 <zodbot> bernardoha_: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' <bernardoha@gmail.com>
23:10:26 * TonetJallo from Perú
23:10:33 <lilixx> .fas lilixx
23:10:35 <zodbot> lilixx: lilixx 'Aura Lila Gutierrez Tejada' <lila2390@gmail.com>
23:10:38 <bernardoha_> bernardoha Perú
23:10:51 <fer> I am from Nicaragua
23:10:56 <robyduck> .fas robyduck
23:10:57 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
23:10:57 <alyaj2a> .fas alyaj2a
23:11:01 <zodbot> alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' <alyaj2a@gmail.com>
23:11:31 * williamjmorenor Nicaragua
23:11:37 <yn1v> Fer ? do you want to said something?
23:12:10 <echeve> Fer is one of the locals?
23:12:16 <yn1v> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/query?type=Funding+request&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&component=FUDCon+Managua+2014&order=priority
23:12:19 <fer> no  thank you
23:12:25 <yn1v> this is the list of tickets
23:12:42 <fer> ok
23:12:57 <yn1v> an here is our budget
23:13:46 <yn1v> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WPmiEbUMGE9hqZ52i_tvPaQN4BaAwTm_x0uk2WjARJM/edit#gid=0
23:14:13 <williamjmorenor> ticket 486 is closed, this is sad :(
23:14:24 <yn1v> yes
23:14:52 <williamjmorenor> so latam people fist? or we ar goint to go ticket by ticket?
23:15:00 <williamjmorenor> *first
23:15:15 <fer> we have some issue ?
23:15:21 <yn1v> that was the idea last meeting
23:15:49 <yn1v> #topic Ticket 488
23:15:51 <echeve> That was agreed the last meeting
23:16:09 <yn1v> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/488
23:16:26 <TonetJallo> hi latam
23:16:36 <williamjmorenor> hi TonetJallo
23:16:40 <fer> hi !!
23:16:42 <echeve> Hi TonetJallo
23:17:05 <yn1v> any questions or comments about this ticket?
23:17:19 <TonetJallo> i was answered from nicaragua embassy in peru
23:17:34 <echeve> Remain less of 1600 right? y1nv?
23:17:43 <TonetJallo> and i have two methods for obtain visa
23:17:53 <echeve> What said they tonet?
23:18:17 <TonetJallo> first, in Nicaragua embassy
23:18:28 <TonetJallo> and second in Nicaragua after arrive
23:18:30 * williamjmorenor estaba probando si haya alguna de sus ip sin bash actualizado :-P
23:19:07 <echeve> TonetJallo I'm unable to understand that yet
23:19:20 <fer> ve que lindo el XD
23:19:22 <TonetJallo> y can share the message
23:19:35 <yn1v> he can ask for a visa at the embassy or at the custom control in the airport
23:20:05 <yn1v> that is something less to worry about
23:20:05 <echeve> Ok
23:20:53 <yn1v> any more comments?
23:20:58 <fer> what is the problem?
23:21:04 <TonetJallo> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8fM5V2vVrO6ZzVaWDhscDVtWGhleGdNUU91UmRORDJBQkF3/edit?usp=sharing
23:21:19 <fer> none
23:21:42 <echeve> We can arrange the last two tickets of latam?
23:22:09 <TonetJallo> lorddemon is visa category B too
23:22:24 <yn1v> I think that the topic proposed for this ticket are not too good
23:22:57 <yn1v> Not sure it is worth to paid that much for a talk about dj remixing
23:23:39 <porfiriopaiz> .fas porfiriopaiz
23:23:40 <zodbot> porfiriopaiz: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andres Paiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com>
23:23:54 * porfiriopaiz Nicaragua
23:24:04 * williamjmorenor no recuerda la ultima vez que vio el fas de porfirio en un meeting
23:24:09 <yn1v> does any body feel the same? or I am too critical?
23:24:40 <echeve> I have to say the same of Neville. Talks or activities have to be about development or Fedora technologies related
23:25:26 <williamjmorenor> I do not agree, it can be a way of showing that fedora is not only for IT people
23:25:37 <yn1v> I am not agaist the topic, I am evaluating the topic against the money
23:25:55 <echeve> I'm talking about the same.
23:26:21 <yn1v> From top of my head ... mayorga and yaderv can do that without travelling cost
23:27:00 <williamjmorenor> ok, and if TonetJallo can propose other themes than justify the travel
23:27:15 <williamjmorenor> maybe
23:27:15 <echeve> TonetJallo?
23:27:39 <williamjmorenor> but is true than there is a very expensive travel
23:27:51 <TonetJallo> can i change session prpoponsals?
23:28:35 <williamjmorenor> yes you can
23:28:44 <yn1v> that would delay the meeting and we finish this for getting all tickets bought
23:28:48 <TonetJallo> mmmm, i can talk about Flask but echeve is better
23:29:06 <echeve> En español
23:29:22 <williamjmorenor> is we go ahead with next and let than TonetJallo propose other talks?
23:29:50 <TonetJallo> williamjmorenor: por mi no hay problema
23:30:00 <williamjmorenor> yn1v
23:30:07 <williamjmorenor> echeve
23:30:09 <fer> what?  we can talk in Spanish?
23:30:11 <echeve> What amount is remain?
23:30:17 <echeve> Sí fer
23:30:17 <yn1v> Okey, let's move on
23:30:22 <williamjmorenor> OK
23:30:26 <fer> XD
23:30:40 <fer> Q BIEN xD
23:30:55 <yn1v> #info budget remaining USD $1955.66
23:31:10 <echeve> Ese es el problema en sí
23:31:51 <echeve> Las charlas propuestas no representan considerablemente el motivo del gasto
23:32:16 <williamjmorenor> si estamos de acuerdo es eso
23:32:18 <fer> Son los viajes ?
23:33:00 <yn1v> fer, estamos viendo los tickets de solicitud para viajar con gastos pagados
23:33:56 <williamjmorenor> creo que no estamos avanzado mucho
23:33:57 <williamjmorenor> :(
23:34:20 <echeve> Ok dejemos que TonetJallo cambie sus proposal
23:34:23 <yn1v> let's move on
23:34:25 <echeve> Y pasemos al otro ticket
23:34:43 <yn1v> #topic ticket 489
23:34:45 <TonetJallo> echeve: go a head
23:34:50 <yn1v> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/489
23:35:02 <williamjmorenor> #info TonetJallo is goint to update his ticket, moving to next ticket
23:35:19 <yn1v> this ticket is for lorddemon aka gonzalo nani
23:35:47 <yn1v> he is from bolivia, is a new contributor and has show some drive
23:35:55 <echeve> Bolivia is new territory for latam
23:36:04 <williamjmorenor> Free Tools For Pentesting, many people in Nicaragua will wan to attend this talk
23:36:30 <yn1v> yes, I think so
23:36:33 <echeve> The question is, he can be our next wrangler there?
23:36:47 <williamjmorenor> we had more blog with people trying to break a facebook with Linux than talking about what is really cool in Linux
23:37:15 <yn1v> any question about this ticket?
23:37:42 <echeve> I'm interested to talk with him for growing the Bolivian community
23:37:49 * williamjmorenor mayorga te dije que hoy era el meeting, nos hubieramos quedado en la UCC
23:37:58 <echeve> And the talk seems interesting by the Fudcon public
23:38:10 <echeve> We can cover that ticket?
23:38:14 <TonetJallo> echeve: +1
23:38:21 <yn1v> williamjmorenor, please keep down the offtopic commenting
23:39:00 <williamjmorenor> #info Ticket is for $1,638.75
23:39:03 <yn1v> no questions?
23:39:12 <fer> none
23:39:31 <echeve> From me, ±1
23:39:32 <yn1v> probably less as Ruth said this morning
23:39:53 <echeve> Because we can help to growing the Bolivian community
23:39:54 <porfirio> .fas porfiriopaiz
23:39:54 <yn1v> votes please
23:39:54 <zodbot> porfirio: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andres Paiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com>
23:40:04 <TonetJallo> +1 from me
23:40:09 * porfirio Nicaragua
23:40:10 <yn1v> +1
23:40:15 <mayorga> -1, proposal does not match criteria
23:40:17 <porfirio> I'm back!
23:40:27 <williamjmorenor> +1
23:40:52 <williamjmorenor> criteria?
23:41:22 <mayorga> williamjmorenor: focus on skills for contributing to Fedora
23:41:46 <echeve> What means that mayorga
23:42:35 <yn1v> that is one of the objectives for this fudcon, to help to transfer skills for contributing with fedora
23:42:55 <williamjmorenor> maybe, but there is many people in Nicaragua trying to break a passwd in facebook and they will love this talk
23:42:57 <yn1v> but we haven't enforced that in previous tickets
23:43:03 <echeve_> I'm here?
23:43:13 <williamjmorenor> yes you are echeve_
23:43:17 <yn1v> yes echeve_ you are back
23:43:30 <echeve_> Ok
23:43:36 <yn1v> more votes?
23:43:39 <echeve_> So what is the decision?
23:44:01 <yn1v> echeve_, NONE YET
23:44:11 <williamjmorenor> there is 4,1,1
23:44:12 <yn1v> sorry for the caps
23:44:47 <echeve_> Ok
23:44:47 <yn1v> echeve_, was + - ?
23:44:59 <echeve_> +1 from me
23:45:15 <yn1v> so we have 5,0,1
23:45:20 <williamjmorenor> fer lilixx porfirio ?
23:45:21 <TonetJallo> lorddemon told me he use the fedora security lab
23:46:07 <yn1v> #agreed to sponsor ticket 489
23:46:12 <echeve_> Ok 5 votes is an agreed
23:46:30 <yn1v> #info there was not unanimous
23:47:42 <fer> q william ?
23:47:45 <yn1v> #topic Tickets 487 and 486
23:48:19 <yn1v> tscherf commente that it was too late for travelling planning and he will not travel
23:48:32 <echeve_> Ok
23:48:35 <yn1v> amita can not get US Visa on time
23:49:03 <echeve_> ?? She have to travel through USA?
23:49:33 <yn1v> yes
23:50:10 <yn1v> #topic ticket 485
23:50:27 <yn1v> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/485
23:50:30 <echeve_> Ok, so will be impossible for her
23:51:03 <yn1v> and for us, think about how much will cost a connection via canada
23:51:09 <williamjmorenor> #info U$ 950 for ticket 485
23:51:45 <yn1v> any questions, comments?
23:52:34 <williamjmorenor> websites team, good for me
23:52:39 * robyduck is here if there are questions, although kinda sleepy
23:52:40 <echeve_> robyduck from me is a yes
23:52:51 <porfirio> robyduck? is he or she? I red "her" over there.
23:53:07 <yn1v> he
23:53:10 <echeve_> And latam needs know more about Fedora websites
23:53:10 <williamjmorenor> is he
23:53:24 <robyduck> robyduck: Robert
23:53:27 <yn1v> yes, I like to have somebody from a different team
23:53:41 <echeve_> I mean we need more contributors in that team
23:53:54 <mayorga> It's interesing as nobody from LATAM works in websites, AFAIK.
23:54:03 <echeve_> So, +1 from me
23:54:13 <yn1v> +1
23:54:15 <lilixx> +1
23:54:18 <williamjmorenor> +1
23:54:21 <echeve_> Recently I work
23:54:26 <echeve_> Mayorga
23:54:29 <robyduck> mayorga: yep, nobody
23:54:50 <mayorga> +1
23:55:37 <mayorga> robyduck: where do you plan to stay?
23:55:43 <porfirio> +1
23:55:58 <yn1v> +1
23:56:10 <robyduck> mayorga: perhaps near the venue, but I will see
23:56:15 <yn1v> upsy, I already voted
23:56:49 <mayorga> robyduck: please let me know as soon as you decide
23:57:01 <robyduck> sure, thanks
23:57:13 <yn1v> aeperezt is looking to share a room, he is traveling in his own pocket
23:57:30 <robyduck> aha, cool
23:58:14 <yn1v> #agreed sponsor ticket 485 (6,0,0)
23:58:20 <williamjmorenor> ok
23:58:38 <robyduck> see you son then, and thanks ;)
23:58:51 * robyduck jumps into bed (2am here)
23:59:01 <yn1v> thanks for joining us robyduck
23:59:11 <robyduck> thx to you
23:59:30 <yn1v> #info our budget is now -194 USD
23:59:45 <williamjmorenor> #info Ticket 486 closed
00:00:37 <echeve_> I'm here?
00:00:49 <yn1v> yes echeve_
00:00:57 <echeve_> What was the decision
00:01:06 <echeve_> ?
00:01:12 <yn1v> robyduck, is approved
00:01:31 <echeve_> Ok great!!
00:01:38 <yn1v> #topic back to ticket 488
00:01:57 <yn1v> seems that we are out of budget
00:02:21 <porfirio> https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/488
00:02:45 <yn1v> we will keep that in a waiting status to see if we get more funds
00:03:02 <yn1v> not sure what else we can do
00:03:03 <williamjmorenor> ok
00:03:13 <echeve_> I'm agreed
00:03:26 <TonetJallo> yn1v: we are over the budget
00:03:34 <echeve_> We have the opportunity of get more funds
00:03:44 <echeve_> But it is not sure
00:03:45 <yn1v> #info ticket 488 is waiting if more funds are secured
00:03:50 <echeve_> Ok
00:04:27 <yn1v> #topic open floor
00:04:38 <TonetJallo> i dont want affect the budget, i think lorddemon is more important
00:05:06 <TonetJallo> i decided close my ticket
00:05:11 <bernardoha_> Tickets are closed are opened if more funds?
00:05:43 <yn1v> I think it will be better to leave it open
00:05:56 <mayorga> Agreed.
00:06:05 <echeve_> TonetJallo keep your ticket opened
00:06:13 <yn1v> I will reopen tickets if we get more funds.
00:06:13 <TonetJallo> echeve_: shure?
00:06:17 <echeve_> Sure
00:06:25 <echeve_> We can get more funds
00:06:35 <bernardoha_> Tickets are closed are opened if more funds?
00:06:47 <yn1v> but at the moment we are about -$200
00:07:18 <echeve_> Yes Bernardo
00:07:29 <echeve_> In order
00:07:42 <yn1v> exactly
00:07:55 <bernardoha_> We will be watching.
00:08:05 <yn1v> any other question? comments?
00:08:34 <echeve_> From me, today. No
00:08:37 <TonetJallo> echeve_: ok, then i think in other session proposal
00:08:45 <yn1v> yes
00:08:47 <echeve_> TonetJallo please
00:08:55 <echeve_> Do it
00:09:06 <yn1v> williamjmorenor, now is the time for your comments ;-)
00:09:31 <williamjmorenor> hummmmmmm
00:09:46 <williamjmorenor> today was a problem install Fedora on UCC labs
00:09:54 <echeve_> Please, I will to take care of the Fudcon site this weekend
00:10:08 <echeve_> But I need more help of the people
00:10:27 <williamjmorenor> what can I do?
00:10:28 <mayorga> Thank you all for participating!
00:10:32 <echeve_> So If you can and wants, see the issues in github
00:10:57 <echeve_> I will to make a list this night
00:11:38 <williamjmorenor> ok
00:11:45 <yn1v> #info echevemaster needs help with web site
00:11:52 <yn1v> #link https://github.com/echevemaster/fudcon/
00:12:15 <yn1v> williamjmorenor, what was the problem?
00:12:33 <echeve_> Css and html is needed in the register
00:12:47 <williamjmorenor> yn1v es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Freeze_(software)
00:12:52 <williamjmorenor> no deja instalar nada
00:13:20 <williamjmorenor> la imagen de Fedora 20 no corrio ni con VMware workstation
00:13:24 <echeve_> William un deep freezer no debería interferir en eso
00:13:25 <williamjmorenor> ni con Virtual Boc
00:13:30 <williamjmorenor> *Box
00:13:40 <yn1v> people wait
00:13:54 <yn1v> let's talk about that in #fedora-latam
00:14:01 <echeve_> Ok
00:14:02 <yn1v> let's close this meeting
00:14:09 <echeve_> Please close the meting
00:14:09 <yn1v> #endmeeting