02:59:00 <yn1v> #startmeeting
02:59:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Sun Jul  6 02:59:00 2014 UTC.  The chair is yn1v. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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02:59:35 <yn1v> #chair aeperezt echevemaster potty wolnei
02:59:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster potty wolnei yn1v
02:59:50 <yn1v> #topic Roll Call
03:00:01 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
03:00:02 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
03:00:05 <wolnei> .fas wolnei
03:00:06 <zodbot> wolnei: wolnei '' <e@wolnei.com.br> - charged '' <e+charged@wolnei.com.br>
03:00:08 * yn1v Nicaragua
03:00:17 <wolnei> Brazil
03:00:29 <potty> .fas potty
03:00:30 <zodbot> potty: radhakrishnanpotty 'S.Radhakrishnan' <radhakrishnanpotty@hotmail.com> - potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' <abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com>
03:00:35 <potty> Panama
03:01:02 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
03:01:03 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
03:01:09 * echevemaster Venezuela
03:01:27 <yn1v> so, where do we start?
03:02:48 <yn1v> #topic News
03:03:42 <yn1v> #info jsmith said that he will sponsor the event in behalf of bluehost
03:04:23 <wolnei> great
03:04:28 <yn1v> bluehost will contribute with $1000
03:04:31 <echevemaster> glad to hear that.
03:04:39 <potty> good.
03:05:13 <yn1v> #info it was requested more funds from fedora
03:05:18 <echevemaster> already we have the amount available for speakers?
03:05:57 <yn1v> Ruth said that she will look to provide more funds if a good proposal is presented
03:06:15 <echevemaster> what kind of proposal?
03:06:28 <yn1v> the idea is to make the list of speakers to see how much do we need
03:06:58 <echevemaster> ok. until now, we have those
03:07:01 <yn1v> that's the point of the call for papers
03:07:02 <echevemaster> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/report/12
03:07:36 * potty have to make his proposal.
03:08:11 <echevemaster> ok, but yeat I don't understand what kind of proposal say ruth?
03:08:26 <echevemaster> group proposal?
03:08:45 <echevemaster> s/yeat/yet
03:08:51 <yn1v> general budget
03:09:04 <echevemaster> oh ok, roger that.
03:09:19 <Fernando_> espasmo.fas
03:09:41 <echevemaster> upside down Fernando_
03:09:43 <Fernando_> hola
03:09:55 <Fernando_> .fas espasmo
03:09:58 <zodbot> Fernando_: espasmo 'Fernando Espinoza ' <herculesoplimpus@gmail.com>
03:10:06 <yn1v> this is catch ... we don't have budget because we don't speakers, and we don't have speakers because we don't have a budget
03:10:08 <Cristhian> .fas crisvann
03:10:09 <zodbot> Cristhian: crisvann '' <cristhian.vanessa.g@gmail.com>
03:10:25 <yn1v> so, we make a list of speakers to determine the budget
03:10:31 <echevemaster> yn1v: lol.
03:11:02 <echevemaster> I think that there are not much speakers because not there budget.
03:11:15 <echevemaster> so, we have to call more the contributors.
03:11:52 <echevemaster> what is the deadline for call of papers?
03:12:05 <yn1v> probably in the end will be a wish list and then we have to cut the list with the money that we get
03:13:12 <echevemaster> any sponsor aside from Fedora and Bluehost?
03:13:14 <yn1v> I asked for a date that is about 19th but I am checking
03:13:42 <yn1v> I have asked a couple of contact but haven't get reply yet
03:14:01 <echevemaster> :(
03:15:40 <yn1v> dead line is July, 18th.
03:16:03 <yn1v> we need to spread the word to reach for more proposals
03:16:45 <echevemaster> ok, we have to move for call more contributors. I don't seeing contributors filling their proposals
03:16:47 <yn1v> I would like to have people from design, docs and translations
03:17:11 <yn1v> I see that packaging have several contributors
03:18:40 <yn1v> #topic Q & A
03:18:48 <echevemaster> Also I think the goal is win contributors for infra too.
03:19:04 <yn1v> sure.
03:19:10 <wolnei> and QA too
03:19:20 <echevemaster> correct.
03:19:34 <yn1v> QA will be the best
03:20:08 <yn1v> lbazan is in infra and he has requested sponsorship
03:20:16 <echevemaster> above all now that will we release F21
03:20:24 <wolnei> have anyone beside me of latam?
03:20:47 <echevemaster> lbazan is QA too wolnei
03:20:54 <wolnei> great :)
03:20:56 <echevemaster> and I belog to infra too.
03:21:03 <echevemaster> s/belog/belong
03:21:29 <yn1v> I didn't know that about who where in QA from latam ... great!
03:21:55 <echevemaster> well, all the packagers belongs to QA, they are bugzapper.
03:21:58 <yn1v> #action spread the word about the call for papers
03:23:19 <yn1v> questions? sugestions?
03:23:48 <wolnei> send a email for people of the groups we want
03:23:50 <echevemaster> spread the word on the list saying that not there much money but all the proposals will be considered.
03:24:16 <wolnei> to ensure one of which group
03:24:49 <wolnei> or anyone with multiple groups
03:25:21 <yn1v> exactly
03:26:12 <yn1v> more questions or suggestions?
03:26:12 <echevemaster> if you limit the groups many people will feel afraid to propose one activity
03:26:26 <wolnei> not limit
03:26:55 <wolnei> but spread by one people of the groups or their list
03:27:32 <potty> maybe a good idea would be spread the word in the different lists
03:27:52 <wolnei> agree
03:28:16 <potty> but emphasizing that fudcon need specific topics related to fedora groups
03:28:22 <echevemaster> Many of the qualities that you need for create applications and keep the infra is python. so we have to talk more about it and make more activities that are implicated that language. I think.
03:28:44 <potty> if people propose specific topics, you give them 'priority' over general topics
03:28:58 <potty> and that's true echevemaster, many people want to participate on projects
03:29:03 <wolnei> that is good idea
03:29:04 <potty> but they do not have idea where to start
03:29:35 <echevemaster> correct..
03:29:35 <yn1v> We want to make a productive event, that means getting people on board or get things done
03:30:16 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt
03:30:17 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com>
03:30:22 <echevemaster> python for coding, python for sysadmins, create translations groups and so on.
03:30:36 <echevemaster> aeperezt: hi mate o/
03:30:39 <yn1v> yes, we need some hacking activities to invite people to do things
03:30:55 <aeperezt> echevemaster, hi
03:31:00 <aeperezt> hi, yn1v
03:31:01 <wolnei> but with different levels
03:31:12 <yn1v> hi aeperezt
03:31:20 <wolnei> noob to pro
03:31:46 <echevemaster> yes, but I think too that we have to take some existent project and do a hacking session.
03:31:53 <potty> maybe what we need is to make fudcon an incremental event
03:32:07 <wolnei> exact
03:32:07 <potty> first part of the day, a fast-track of python (for example)
03:32:19 <potty> then on the second part of the day, learn specific infra-stuff (for example)
03:32:20 <wolnei> progress over days
03:32:32 <potty> on the second day, solve issues reported and so on
03:32:35 <potty> yes, wolnei
03:32:39 <echevemaster> correct and the last day a session of hacking in infra fedora.
03:33:02 <aeperezt> well, unless you have list of specifict task that will be done so people can join to contribute to them
03:33:04 <yn1v> is a three day event not sure how much progression we can make
03:33:22 <echevemaster> we can to list issues from fedora github issues.
03:33:29 <aeperezt> with no goal it will be only a meetup with conferences
03:33:38 <potty> +1 aeperezt
03:33:42 <yn1v> that's what speakers should contribute, be a guide to do stuff
03:33:44 <wolnei> it will depends of the people progress
03:34:08 <aeperezt> you need a task list of what you want to accomplish
03:35:22 <echevemaster> by example, bohdi have much relevancy nowadays and all the fedmsg stuff.
03:35:28 <yn1v> I need help to create such list
03:36:07 <echevemaster> ok I can help listing the github issues and infra issues, anyone else?
03:37:02 <yn1v> so we can locally announce things that we will do and create expectations about those projects
03:37:39 <potty> indeed
03:38:07 <echevemaster> also we can contribute in our local project
03:38:09 <echevemaster> take a look
03:38:10 <echevemaster> http://demo.engineerinme.com/
03:39:17 <yn1v> echevemaster, that looks cool
03:39:28 <echevemaster> that is fedora college almost finished
03:41:37 <yn1v> echevemaster,  that's moodle?
03:41:45 <echevemaster> well, so. yn1v potty wolnei aeperezt let's go to take this week for do a list, from github, infra, and translation agreed?
03:41:56 <echevemaster> no, that is own code.
03:41:59 <echevemaster> made in python
03:42:10 <echevemaster> with Flask micro framework.
03:42:14 <yn1v> wow
03:42:32 <echevemaster> #link https://github.com/echevemaster/fedora-college
03:42:38 <yn1v> #agreed make a list of things to be done in fudcon
03:43:31 <yn1v> there is anything else?
03:43:56 <yn1v> I don't want to keep people up late
03:44:12 <echevemaster> yes, next meeting?
03:44:34 <potty> yes
03:44:38 <yn1v> next saturday?
03:44:43 <echevemaster> agreed
03:44:47 <potty> +1
03:44:58 <echevemaster> with the list made
03:45:07 <echevemaster> and discuss about that points agreed?
03:45:13 <wolnei> ok
03:45:24 <yn1v> okey
03:47:11 <yn1v> can we finish this meeting?
03:47:17 <echevemaster> yeah, go ahead
03:47:21 <echevemaster> thanks for chairing
03:47:26 <yn1v> #endmeeting