16:00:12 #startmeeting FUDCon NA Planning Meeting 16:00:12 Meeting started Wed Jul 6 16:00:12 2011 UTC. The chair is rbergeron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:22 #chair southern_gentlem 16:00:22 Current chairs: rbergeron southern_gentlem 16:00:26 #chair jsmith 16:00:26 Current chairs: jsmith rbergeron southern_gentlem 16:00:31 * rbergeron looks around to see who's about. 16:00:46 that wont work 16:01:06 what won't? 16:01:19 do i have to be all case sensitive or something? 16:01:24 Southern_Gentlem, != southern_gentlem 16:01:30 #chair Southern_Gentlem 16:01:30 Current chairs: Southern_Gentlem jsmith rbergeron southern_gentlem 16:02:05 i think jsmith is in a board meeting isnt he 16:02:07 #meetingname FUDCon NA Planning Meeting 16:02:07 The meeting name has been set to 'fudcon_na_planning_meeting' 16:02:16 Yeah. 16:02:21 * jsmith is multi-tasking 16:02:44 #topic Welcome to FUDCon NA Planning meetings 16:03:03 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012 16:03:27 So as we all know, the NA fudcon for 2012 is going to be in Blacksburg, VA, hosted by the wonderful Southern_Gentlem :) 16:03:53 We'll be having meetings to work through all the planning stuff related to FUDCon. 16:04:24 #info If you're interested in helping out with aspects of FUDCon Blacksburg, please participate in meetings or the fudcon-planning mailing list. 16:04:51 Southern_Gentlem: Want to take over and tell everyone where things are at right now? :) 16:04:57 #topic status as of 20110706 16:05:03 * jsmith finished his other meeting, and is now fully involved in this meeting 16:05:24 hotel contract will seen hopefully by the end of this week 16:05:55 Southern_Gentlem: who's signing the contract? 16:05:58 contact had been on vacation and then was sent for company training then had a death in the family in june 16:06:02 Ah. 16:06:07 Fun. 16:06:29 rbergeron, we will see what it says then go from there 16:07:06 at the moment she tells me there are no must pay for so many room clauses 16:07:31 (they are very excited to have our business in january at this point) 16:07:35 right. 16:08:07 How about the venue itself? 16:08:15 i was talking to them about the room block that i wanted to start the block as soon as possible and stop it 2 weeks before the event 16:08:43 Yeah. We literally had people still asking about rooms just days before the event, but I know they'll want to take the opportunity to fill those spots if we can't. 16:09:05 So we should probably make sure we're making lots of noise when the room block opens, and start making noise again in early January before it closes. 16:09:56 Venue; registars office is giving me some hassle, so i need to get a copy of the propectus 16:10:27 still have to wait till fall semister before i can block the space 16:10:30 Right. 16:10:38 And we'll need to make a prospectus, I suppose. 16:10:46 What are they giving you hassle about? 16:11:05 rbergeron, from my understanding there was one created for Tempe 16:11:56 We didn't use it for anything, and it never really got finished up. 16:12:03 rbergeron, beleive it or not projector use more than anything else because the way the bulbs are paid for by government money 16:12:12 It was to lure more sponsors in, basically. 16:12:18 But none of the sponsors ever cared to see it. 16:12:35 well yes in that case we need it for the registars 16:12:35 The university itself was interested in what the division of students vs. non-student attendees was. 16:13:07 So i'm curious if the registrar's office is interested in the # of students, or just information about other stuff. 16:13:41 information about attendees in general 16:13:42 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Tempe_2011_prospectus 16:14:12 yes we will be opn to all university students and faculty and we are not chargeing for the eventt so i see really no big problems 16:14:12 I'll work on the prospectus and try to get it whipped into shape 16:14:21 So I guess we'll need to put something together similar, though I suppose the whole "venue" part is up in the air to some degree. 16:14:48 #action jsmith to work on prospectus for Blacksburg to have available for the VT registrar's office. 16:14:55 Southern_Gentlem: When do you need that by? 16:15:10 rbergeron, September 16:15:33 #action jsmith fo have prospectus available by beginning of September 16:15:42 wow, typo. oh well. 16:15:54 closer to the event i will have a signup for Wireless for the conference 16:16:05 * rbergeron is thinking we'd do well to start making tickets, etc. 16:16:07 Sounds good 16:16:16 rbergeron: I'm hoping to have the tickets created by next week 16:16:21 rbergeron: (More on that later) 16:16:52 Southern_Gentlem: Anything else, offhand? 16:16:56 Any questions you need answered? 16:17:11 I think we need to wait on finding out about hotel info before we can start doing announcements about subsidies, etc. 16:17:22 And make sure that the venue costs, if any, are known. 16:17:25 the way wireless works for conference is people sign up (non VT) and charged 34cents per day 16:17:36 LOL 16:17:47 So we'll need to have a small amount of budget for wireless. 16:18:04 Can they just charge us in one big block? 16:18:12 right i am working with my department to sponsor the wireless 16:18:34 If not, we'll just pay for it 16:18:36 Okay. 16:18:37 It's not a big deal 16:19:05 if need be i have several contacts in the Vp of Reaseach Office who are excited about this coming to VT 16:20:28 #topic Design issues 16:21:21 my timeline on this is August ask the Design Team to work on Tshirt and Badge Design for FudCon BlacksBurg 16:22:00 * rbergeron nods 16:22:04 Southern_Gentlem: To be honest, August is the Alpha deadline for F16, so asking earlier is better 16:22:12 s/August/early August/ 16:22:26 Marketing i had something that cant think of a the moment 16:22:37 It doesn't hurt to open design tickets now, and let the Design team know they've got a bit of time 16:22:49 That way, they can schedule their time appropriately 16:22:52 jsmith, but hopefully f16 will be out 2-3 months before fudcon 16:23:07 Southern_Gentlem: We'd better hope so! 16:23:17 please open design tickets as soon as you know you need stuff :) 16:23:29 I think what ben is saying is that he's filing the request in August, to give them time perhaps between F16 release and fudcon. ;) 16:23:44 I don't think there's any harm in opening it now, but letting them know when the deadline is can't hurt. 16:23:51 Nor can saying, "It's not an immediate emergency." 16:24:12 also someone needs to open a design ticket and assign it to me to make up a blacksburg SVG 16:24:17 Especially since they're going to have other emergency-things coming at them, like design for FUDCOn APAC, which doesn't have a location yet. 16:24:22 I have also had Tatica asking around about possible people willing to do workshops on various open source tools 16:24:53 * tatica reading 16:25:56 ianweller: opened and assigned 16:25:58 :) 16:26:04 yay 16:26:11 LOVE UR TICKETS 16:26:36 Marketing -- Flyers for ART Dept if we can get people possible to have workshops said tools 16:26:36 Southern_Gentlem: you mean at fudcon itself? 16:26:41 yep 16:27:01 flyers before hand so i can plaster the dept in october 16:27:04 I think the key will be getting people to sign up to do those workshops, and seeing if they have funding. 16:27:40 ! 16:27:43 yes? 16:27:45 the flyers that emichan did for the art event where awesome, I think she could help with that 16:27:56 okay. 16:28:24 Let's keep that in mind, assuming that we have people who wnat to come teach a class, and that they can get to fudcon. 16:29:11 It all depends on how the budget is looking in a few weeks, once we know hotel costs, etc. 16:29:38 and FUDPub costs, which usually ends up being the other big-ticket item in the budget 16:29:48 yeah. 16:29:53 tatica do you remember what we discussed 16:30:04 yes, of course 16:30:17 ? 16:30:43 => rbergeron 16:31:15 * rbergeron looks at jsmith ... i was ?'ing about the "what we discussed" statement 16:31:20 not asking permission to speak ;) 16:31:22 Oh, gotcha 16:31:26 ahh 16:31:29 * jsmith is obviously confused 16:31:40 was more about workshops and how to get people involved in design team 16:31:51 OK, good to know 16:31:52 tatica, my mind is racing over 15 things could you give a overview of what we discussed for fudcon 16:31:54 http://www.uusa.vt.edu/breakZONE/pdf/reservationform.pdf 16:32:28 Southern_Gentlem, tatica: I think if you guys have already discussed some stuff, it would be great to maybe capture some of those ideas in a mail, maybe as a list. 16:32:42 So that we can get those items / needs turned into tickets, and it's not something we have to collectively try to remember. 16:32:45 thank you :) 16:32:50 Also, it helps out with getting other folks involved :) 16:32:55 * tatica 's here but kind of busy 16:33:01 tatica: it doesn't have to be today. 16:33:08 But perhaps before the next meeting? 16:33:17 Or the following meeting? ;) 16:33:59 I think I can do it tonight and send it tomorrow morning 16:34:10 tatica: that would be great! 16:34:42 #action tatica to send an email outlining the design tasks / classroom ideas for FUDCon she and Southern_Gentlem have discussed to the fudcon-planning list. 16:34:45 thank you! 16:35:29 fudpub location is basicly $200 per hour for the space 16:35:56 * rbergeron nods 16:36:10 basicly the same setup as Tempe bowling billards etc 16:36:12 Do we know the policies on the university's food/alcohol rules for that space? 16:36:18 Do we have to use their catering services, etc? 16:37:07 we dont have use their catering service but it is alot easier if we do as far as the permission and licenses to serve alcohol 16:37:38 the only alcohol that can be served is beer and or wine 16:38:47 Okay. 16:39:02 Do we have an outline on when we need to apply for licenses, if we need to have insurance, etc? 16:39:56 Or still need to look into it? 16:40:26 I think it is only smart to have liabiltiy insurance for any FUDcon (in the USA) to be truth 16:40:29 ful 16:40:29 * rbergeron thinks at least getting an idea on food costs, and deciding if we wnat to do breakfasts/lunches/get sponsors for those things, etc. 16:41:07 catering for lunches is 8.50 sandwiches like in tempe 16:41:28 yes, but if it's a requirement, there's usually some terms on "how much" and things like that. so that might be good to know. 16:42:03 At some point. 16:42:05 http://www.dining.vt.edu/catering/simplesolutions.php 16:42:52 catering for Fudpub will be alot easier and about the same pricing as someone else 16:42:58 yeah. 16:43:04 And it looks to be about the same pricing as tempe, like you said. 16:43:23 So we can probably loosely use some of those numbers. 16:44:44 Southern_Gentlem: the rec area says "no reservatoins after 6pm saturday" - does that mean that the facility is closing at that time, or just that they don't take reservations after a certain time in the day, or ? 16:45:05 rbergeron, unless approved by the manager 16:45:19 we already have that verbal approval 16:45:23 okay 16:45:51 that weekend he is for all the business he can get 16:45:57 * rbergeron nods 16:46:07 Have you already filed the form for a reservation? 16:46:13 Or just had a discussion more or less 16:46:49 just had the discussion and in August will file the reservation form 16:47:00 Okay. 16:47:26 he doesnt want the reservation form untill fall semister starts 16:47:30 Makes sense 16:47:31 Southern_Gentlem: And I see we can give then CC information and get charged, so be sure to get that info from one of us. ;) 16:47:34 Yeah. 16:47:34 That's how tempe was as well. 16:47:53 so when that time comes i will be after CC info 16:48:00 alrighty. You know where to find me :) 16:48:18 It seems like a lot of things are hinging on August/September being here. 16:48:25 yep 16:48:46 I think the best stuff over the next few weeks is to (a) get the prospectus together, (b) nail down hotel rooms, (c) starting to frame budget costs. 16:48:50 but that is usually how it works in a Uni environment 16:48:53 yup. 16:49:06 we have general cost 16:49:47 the corkage fees is the only thing i didntlike from the caterer 16:50:09 Ah. Well, at least beers don't have corks, right? :) 16:50:43 Southern_Gentlem: Have we started a budget page anywhere yet? 16:50:57 and by "we" i mean "not me, probably you" because I know i haven't. ;) 16:51:31 not yet but hopefully this week 16:51:49 Okay. I can take that on, if you need to. Just let me know. ;) 16:51:57 At least I can get it set up and so forth. 16:52:17 So. 16:52:26 Southern_Gentlem: anything else you wanted to discuss today? 16:52:31 yeah go ahead a set it up with a link off the Fudcon blacksburg page please 16:52:42 rbergeron, no that comes to mind 16:52:50 well one thing 16:52:57 #action rbergeron to set up a budget page and link it to the blackburg wiki page 16:53:03 yes? 16:53:19 this is my view of how i would like to see things go for fudcon blacksburg 16:53:38 friday hackfest and possible workshops 16:53:57 * rbergeron nods 16:54:47 satuarday Barcamp with some already scheduled sessions for design and new linux users (howto create rpms ex) 16:55:23 * rbergeron nods more 16:55:42 sunday hackfest (other groups may want to have f17 sessions) 16:55:58 like design and docs for example 16:56:25 I think that sounds reasonable. 16:56:28 we have plenty of space so i would like to see 6 tracks if possible 16:56:33 I think it's probably easier to nail down once we know space. 16:56:38 yeah, that's the thing. ;) 16:56:43 how big the rooms are, etc is helpful. 16:56:54 i dont see space as problem 16:56:54 But if we have tons of space, it lets us have a lot of options. 16:57:01 already on the wiki page 16:57:20 each room has a capacity rating 16:57:52 http://noname.math.vt.edu/Fedoraunity/roomsurvey20110330.pdf 16:58:44 almost every room will easily hold 40 people 16:58:53 Southern_Gentlem: Are the rooms on Friday going to be easily available, given that school is in session? 16:59:05 rbergeron, school is not in session 16:59:17 when does school start? 16:59:27 tuesday afterwards 16:59:29 after MLK? 16:59:29 ah 16:59:42 thats why i picked this weekend 16:59:47 But people will be around to support needs, etc 17:00:03 Nice... 17:00:04 students will be moving back in that weekend 17:00:15 but they are on the otherside of campus 17:00:18 yep 17:00:30 rbergeron, and i have the keys to the building 17:00:59 gLOL 17:01:07 YOU DA MAN 17:01:12 ok Max has brought up the coffee guy from SELf 17:01:23 F 17:01:49 i really have no idea what to do with him 17:02:10 Have him provide coffee in the mornings, I guess 17:02:24 Assuming that's okay with the school 17:02:33 now if he wants to come and charge Fudcon a flat fee for the coffee he uses i have no problem 17:03:00 i can see where the university could have an issue with him selling coffee to attendees 17:03:05 yeah. 17:03:19 Or, we pay for the coffee and he gives it for free? 17:03:29 * jsmith just throwing out ideas -- jsmith isn't a coffee drinker 17:03:36 I think if he wanted to make coffee and we hook him up with a room and so forth that could work. 17:03:38 * tatica is :$ 17:03:52 #idea keep Coffee Ideas in mind, add a ticket 17:03:53 if he comes i can see him setting up in mcb 207 17:04:16 Southern_Gentlem: Can we have food/breakfast in those areas/rooms? 17:04:19 jsmith, that the flat fee i was stating above 17:04:25 OK 17:04:41 rbergeron, yes i only ask that no food in the carpeted rooms 17:04:49 which is 2 17:05:18 january 13-15 is definitely the date for the fudcon? 17:05:19 * rbergeron nods 17:05:21 * ianweller working on rbergeron's ticket now 17:05:26 ianweller, yes 17:05:28 ianweller: yes 17:06:27 rbergeron, yes i asked the hotel aobut meeting space and aobut outside food and beverages 17:06:52 ;) 17:07:07 the hotel is run by hyatt so the answer is NO no matter how many liability waviers we want to do 17:07:48 so i am looking at getting a hotel suite to run registration room party out of 17:08:02 okay. 17:08:17 ok i think i am done for today 17:08:24 Yep. Me too. 17:08:33 (at least my stomach says its lunchtime) 17:08:38 jsmith: did you want to add on a bit about your master plan for ticket creation? 17:08:45 rbergeron: Sure, I'll be quick 17:08:50 Southern_Gentlem: Mine too! Except it's only 10 here and I want pizza and it's not open 17:08:56 #topic Ticket Creation 17:09:06 Oops, not a chair 17:09:12 Oh, zodbot is just slow 17:09:12 yes, you are 17:09:14 Anyhoo 17:09:24 Robyn and I started a master list of FUDCon tickets 17:09:41 It's currently at http://openetherpad.org/FUDCon-tickets, but will be moved to the wiki shortly 17:09:53 In parentheses, I've got the milestones for the tickets 17:10:09 (I haven't finished adding milestones to each ticket yet -- hoping to get some help to finish that in the next couple of days) 17:10:24 I've also got a script to mass-create tickets and milestones in Trac 17:10:29 sponsorhips whom is working on that 17:10:42 Southern_Gentlem: you mean getting sponsors? 17:10:45 So once we have the list nailed down, I can easily mass-create all the tickets for each new FUDCon 17:10:55 yep 17:10:55 or giving people subsidies 17:11:07 Southern_Gentlem: Someone has to volunteer to do the work ;) 17:11:13 tempe was the first time it had been done 17:11:18 yep 17:11:28 and i dont think i have time 17:11:37 Ask for a volunteer on the mailing list 17:11:41 * jsmith can probably help some 17:11:41 i would like to see us have other sponsors 17:12:18 Rackspace does have a local presence if someone wants to contact them again 17:12:59 oh, they have an offie there? 17:13:08 yep 17:13:12 :-) 17:13:15 Awesome :-) 17:13:15 Fun. 17:13:31 Well, I think we'll need to have a bit more put together before we start talking to prospective sponsors. 17:13:41 Aye... 17:13:42 yep 17:13:49 Hence the reason I volunteered to work on the prospectus 17:14:21 and i will be working on getting a contract to put up for review asasp 17:14:45 Sounds like a plan 17:14:48 Anything else? 17:14:57 No. 17:15:08 jsmith: when do you expect ot have tickets up? 17:15:08 #topic Any other business? 17:15:13 rbergeron: Next week 17:15:16 okay 17:15:19 before this meeting? or after 17:15:21 #action get hotel contract up for peer review asap 17:15:36 #action jbwillia get hotel contract up for peer review asap 17:15:46 rbergeron: Before this meeting :-) 17:17:39 rbergeron, i look at it this way if people wait till 2 weeks before the event to get a hotel room they get to pay the 129 per night prices out of their pockets 17:17:55 #action jsmith to open tickets before next week's meeting 17:18:08 yup. 17:18:20 * rbergeron looks around for anything else before closing things out 17:18:30 I think we all agreed there's not, so.... :) 17:18:41 * rbergeron holds 5 seconds before ringing the bell 17:18:43 rbergeron, will community arch planning to arrive tuesday like tempe? 17:18:50 Southern_Gentlem: unknown. 17:19:19 It's a possibility, but don't worry about having to account for it. :) 17:19:33 Or don't bend over backwards, I should say. 17:19:49 well i want to track room nights as close as possible 17:19:59 #action rbergeron to ping spevack about commarch team meeting before fudcon 17:20:21 even if they dont get in the block their is info for the next person 17:20:22 Southern_Gentlem: We'll try and get you something more firm next week in confirmation there. :) 17:20:32 Sorry folks, I have to run. 17:20:42 Thanks Southern_Gentlem, rbergeron, and tatica for participating! 17:20:45 see you next week 17:21:55 #endmeeting