22:59:55 <lpostner> #startmeeting
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23:00:07 <lpostner> #topic roll call
23:00:34 <lpostner> I still haven't figured out people's nicks, let's do a quick roll call with name and institution
23:00:45 <cmacdonell> Cam Macdonell, MacEwan University
23:01:00 <CyclingFan> Linda Webster, Westminster College.
23:01:10 <darci> Darci Burdge, Nassau Community College
23:01:12 <docrea> Alan Rea, Western Michigan Univ.
23:01:17 <stefan_c> Stefan Christov, Quinnipiac University
23:01:35 <jfrench> Jeannie French - Coastal Carolina University
23:01:39 <lpostner> heidie: we are doing a quick roll call - you are up
23:01:47 <JimH> Jim Huggins, Kettering University, Flint MI
23:01:49 <heidie> Heidi Ellis, Western New England University.
23:02:03 <lpostner> Lori Postner, Nassau Community College
23:02:06 <rsjodin> Rob Sjodin, Regis University
23:02:08 <ChuckD_> Chuck Dierbach, Towson University
23:02:30 <lpostner> I think that is everyone...
23:02:40 <lpostner> #topic agenda
23:02:50 <lpostner> here's our agenda for this meeting
23:03:13 <lpostner> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_3
23:04:03 <lpostner> several items we want to discuss - first how things are doing, second project selection and installation, third questions about next week's face to face meeting
23:04:21 <lpostner> #topic progress on Stage 1 activities
23:04:47 <lpostner> if we can get a quick progress report from everyone, that would be great...
23:05:36 <CyclingFan> I have completed Parts A & B.  Have looked over Part C, but need to complete the questions and activities.
23:05:52 <ChuckD_> Same here
23:05:54 <JimHuggins> I think I'm all done with Parts A/B ... was waiting for tonight to look at Part C, since the IRC chat was item #1 :)
23:05:54 <rsjodin> I’ve spent a couple of hours on it; I couldn’t find an answer on the “shading” and “color” questions.
23:06:12 <docrea> Part A&B done. Did my Git for PartC today.
23:06:12 <JeanFrench> Stage 1:  Part A complete; Part B complete; Part C not started.
23:06:17 <stefan_c> I am done with parts A and B. I am almost done with the Bug-Tracker Activity from Part C and will be moving on to the Source Code Management/Control Activity.
23:06:31 <lpostner> rsjodin: where are questions?  which activity?
23:07:01 <rsjodin> Here are the 2 quesitons:
23:07:13 <rsjodin> What is the meaning of the shading of some bug reports?
23:07:22 <rsjodin> What is the meaning of the colors used when describing a bug (red, gray, black)?
23:07:44 <lpostner> in the Bug Tracker activity
23:07:49 <rsjodin> Yes.
23:07:58 <lpostner> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Bug_Tracker_Activity
23:08:08 <lpostner> has anyone else found answers to those?
23:08:45 <stefan_c> I think gray is enhancement, black: bug whose severity is less than critical; red: bug with severity at least critical
23:10:06 <rsjodin> Seems reasonable, but I couldn’t find an explanation;  thanks.
23:10:24 <lpostner> rsjodin: I don't know as I haven't worked in a GNOME project - we can ask Heidi or Stoney next week
23:10:34 <rsjodin> ok
23:10:46 * darci just looking...seems right
23:10:51 <lpostner> glad to hear people are making progress...
23:10:52 <docrea> I believe he is correct on the colors. All the grays are enhancements.
23:10:59 <stefan_c> I don't recollect finding an explicit definition of the color scheme, either. I think I just made an educated guess :)
23:11:10 <stefan_c> so i might be wrong
23:11:26 <rsjodin> Ok
23:11:47 * docrea votes that stefan is correct.
23:11:47 <JeanFrench> It thought the shading was for even and odd rows.  If you sort by number and view the source code, it shows a style for even rows and odd rows
23:12:13 <lpostner> if you click on the id of a gray one is says enhancement, that seems reasonable
23:12:21 <rsjodin> Very good.
23:12:37 <docrea> Shading is not every other. grays are enhancements indeed. Just saw that on the id.
23:12:55 <lpostner> but when I click on a red one the importance is Normal critical whereas the black ones are Normal normal
23:13:31 <rsjodin> That works for me.
23:13:36 <lpostner> other questions?
23:13:47 <docrea> FYI. For Git if you are Mac or Windows, you might want to use the GUI if it's your first time. There is software specifically that works with GitHub.
23:13:52 <darci> I think every other is selective - it isn't used when the text is gray.
23:14:05 <docrea> #link https://git-scm.com/downloads/guis
23:14:39 * lpostner thinking, is it OK to move on to project selection?
23:14:40 <JeanFrench> Oh, yes.  You're right.  I can barely see the background and see it's not grey on grey.
23:15:42 * darci thinking that these questions are not helpful for someone with vision impairments
23:16:03 <lpostner> #topic project selection
23:16:31 <rsjodin> I have a question, it’s long; I hope it all fits …
23:16:35 <lpostner> have people figured out which project they think they want to work with?
23:16:47 <rsjodin> I’m working with a non profit named Colorado Young Leaders, that helps middle and high school students find their passion by volunteering service for non profits; my Software Engineering class is developing a Learn Management System (LMS) this fall semester for CYL;  my question … can I make this effort my POSSE project, or do I need to choose an existing project.  BTW: CYL is very interested in becoming a POSSE project.
23:17:12 <ChuckD_> I am still looking
23:17:15 <stefan_c> I am leaning towards OpenMRS
23:17:17 <JeanFrench> I like the MouseTrap project
23:17:18 <lpostner> rsjodin: do you have a link to that project?
23:17:44 <rsjodin> It hasn’t been created yet; I would have to create it.
23:18:01 <JimHuggins> I keep picking one, but then I forget which one I picked ...
23:18:09 * docrea would like to work on Ushahidi
23:18:20 <cmacdonell> rsjodin: has code been written for CYL yet?
23:18:22 <darci> rsjodin: What does CYL stand for?
23:18:34 <cmacdonell> Colorado Young Leaders
23:18:48 <darci> lol...yes, makes sense
23:19:01 <lpostner> rsjodin: we can talk more about this next week - part of what we want is to allow student to learn from a community of developers - I'm not sure CYL fits that aspect
23:19:02 <rsjodin> That’s what were doing this semester; developing the LMS.
23:19:13 <rsjodin> yes, Colorado Young Leaders
23:19:36 <rsjodin> And they are VERY interested in becoming a POSSE project.
23:19:50 <JimHuggins> My Wiki says I picked Mifos, so I guess that's what I picked.   (absent minded professor here ...)
23:19:58 <lpostner> is this the right organization? #link http://www.coloradoyoungleaders.org/
23:20:07 <rsjodin> Yep.
23:20:29 <lpostner> has anyone tried installing the project of their choice yet?
23:20:55 <docrea> Not yet. Gotta save some fun for the weekend :}
23:20:59 <CyclingFan> I have not yet decided which project I'm going to choose.
23:21:24 <stefan_c> I haven't tried installing the project yet.
23:21:25 <cmacdonell> docrea: have decided which version of Ushahidi you will install?
23:22:22 * lpostner thinking, people may not realize that cmacdonell is our Ushahidi person
23:23:04 <JimHuggins> no, haven't tried a download yet ... I thought I was supposed to wait for this chat before trying the other activities in Part C.   (The list of activities in Part C looked linear ...)
23:23:06 <docrea> I will most likely give V3 a go. Do you have a suggestion?
23:23:41 <docrea> Although I'm most interested in the Android install for my courses.
23:23:48 <JeanFrench> Not yet.  The MouseTrap has a lot of outdated links.  Then you have to see the README.
23:24:10 <cmacdonell> One suggestion I have for all is that using a virtual machine can be a very good idea
23:24:13 <cmacdonell> http://mirror.cs50.net/appliance50/2015/releases/0/
23:24:30 <cmacdonell> We've used this Ubuntu one in the past that comes from Harvard's CS50 course
23:24:56 <cmacdonell> VirtualBox is free and runs on all OSes
23:25:27 <cmacdonell> If MouseTrap is your project, you'll likely want to install a Fedora Linux system in the VM
23:26:03 <cmacdonell> The good thing about a VM is it gives all students exactly the same platform, to help avoid cross platform installation issues
23:26:11 * heidie is annoyed at the intermittent internet service at her house!
23:26:30 <stefan_c> Does anyone know of a suggested/preferred OS for OpenMRS?
23:26:34 <heidie> Ah, the thing to be careful of with a VM and MouseTrap is that MT uses video drivers.
23:26:39 <lpostner> heidie: we are discussing projects
23:26:55 <heidie> And so far I haven't been successful using MouseTrap on a VM. However, I haven't tried in about a year.
23:27:02 <heidie> Sorry that I dropped off!
23:27:08 <lpostner> stefan_c: we've run OpenMRS on windows
23:27:23 <JeanFrench> Okay.  Will do.  On MouseTrap, there are lots of broken links and images.  I get nervous that I picked a bad project.  Or maybe that will be a good contribution that is non-coding related.  Fix the mess.
23:27:28 <lpostner> darci: do know what Ben uses?  did JoAnne use Mac?
23:27:42 <heidie> JeanFrench: Fixing the mess is most welcome!
23:27:48 <darci> stefan_c: There are instructions for all (linux, windows, OS X) on their website
23:28:29 <JeanFrench> When I looked at other ways to contribute, that one stood out:  fixing documentation and website. Content.  At least for those students who don't want to jump into coding.
23:28:29 <docrea> Looks like OpenMRS runs on Apache Tomcat so it should work on any VM.
23:28:48 <cmacdonell> docrea: you should confirm if the Android version works with version 3.  I'm not sure if the release of ver 3 means that all products (Web, iOS, Android) work with the latest versions
23:29:03 <heidie> JeanFrench: Yes, and fixing documentation and website is very, very welcome!
23:30:06 <stefan_c> Thanks for the suggestions. I did try to install OpenMRS on a Mac earlier this year and I wasn't very successful. I will be giving it another shot :)
23:30:11 <docrea> cmacdonell: Will do. If V3 doesn't work well with Android...then it becomes a project for my senior Android development class ;}
23:30:32 <lpostner> if you haven't had a chance to think about projects yet, please try to do it before we meet next week
23:30:47 <lpostner> other questions about projects or installations?
23:31:25 * docrea is OK for now.
23:31:33 <cmacdonell> docrea: Yup, it certainly can be.  You would also need a V3 web instances that the mobile version can interact with
23:31:35 <CyclingFan> If we have problems with installation, can we e-mail someone?
23:33:04 <lpostner> CyclingFan: yes, depending upon the project I would suggest different people
23:33:15 <lpostner> MouseTrap - heidi or stoney
23:33:24 <lpostner> Ushahidi - cam
23:33:28 * docrea thanks cmacdonell for the tips.
23:34:07 <CyclingFan> Thanks.
23:34:18 <JeanFrench> Should everything be fully installed before we arrive?
23:34:23 <stefan_c> Do we have resident experts in OpenMRS? :)
23:34:24 <lpostner> but we don't want you to spend a huge amount of time working through kinks - I believe we've suggested giving it about an hour and then bring your questions with you
23:34:38 <lpostner> darci: heidie: does that seem about right?
23:34:48 <heidie> Yes, that's right.
23:35:13 <heidie> We want folks to get a general understanding, but not to frustrate themselves trying to figure out all of the details.
23:35:29 <lpostner> #topic workshop in Raleigh
23:35:35 <cmacdonell> Can someone answer stefan_c> Do we have resident experts in OpenMRS? :)
23:35:44 <lpostner> sorry, I missed that question
23:35:50 <cmacdonell> it happens :)
23:35:57 <darci> stefan_c: you can throw OpenMRS questions at me or Lori...if we're uncertain, we can reach out to others
23:35:58 <stefan_c> I found a list of people on the OpenMRS page on the wiki. Maybe I can use that.
23:36:03 <lpostner> Darci & I have both installed on Windows
23:36:33 <lpostner> but we have a number of POSSE alum using OpenMRS and can put you in contact with them
23:36:56 <stefan_c> Great, thanks.
23:37:05 <lpostner> you should have received an email from Greg earlier today with information about arriving in Raleigh next Thurs - any questions?
23:38:38 * lpostner thinking, no questions?
23:38:58 <JimHuggins> well, I haven't reviewed the attachment yet, but it sounds like it will make sense ...
23:39:05 <docrea> None from me. Nice that there will be lunch waiting.
23:39:10 <JeanFrench> None here.  I'm a driver... will wait for the additional email for details.
23:39:15 <stefan_c> I think I am all set. Need to get in touch with people to coordinate the ride from the airport.
23:39:35 <lpostner> please contact any of us if you questions - heidie, have we put cell # in the titan pad?
23:40:00 <heidie> We can do that if folks would like.
23:40:08 <JimHuggins> cell #s are always good
23:40:16 <lpostner> I meant our cell # in case people have questions when they arrive
23:40:26 <heidie> Ah, got it.
23:40:28 <heidie> Sure!
23:40:33 <docrea> JimHuggins: You are one of my arrival "buddies" ;}
23:40:57 <CyclingFan> Arrival buddies should probably exchange cells.
23:41:31 <lpostner> well, if there isn't anything else, we can wrap up - we started classes today and am trying to get back into the swing of things - guessing I'm not the only one :)
23:41:34 <heidie> Right, that makes sense.
23:41:47 <heidie> Yup, classes started yesterday for me and it is chaos!
23:42:04 <docrea> Don't start until next week. No classes before Labor Day in MI ;}
23:42:07 <JimHuggins> I'm two-thirds in ... got a huge pile of exams calling me name *sob*
23:42:43 <lpostner> ok, I'm going to stop the meet bot - looking forward to meeting all of you in NC next week - safe travels!
23:42:49 <JimHuggins> thanks!
23:42:52 <lpostner> #endmeeting