00:02:52 <stoneyj> #startmeeting 00:02:52 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Aug 18 00:02:52 2015 UTC. The chair is stoneyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:02:52 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:03:25 <stoneyj> let's see... and in case my connection dies... I should make a couple others chair too 00:03:35 <stoneyj> #chair lorip 00:03:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: lorip stoneyj 00:03:43 <stoneyj> #chair heidie 00:03:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: heidie lorip stoneyj 00:03:48 <lorip> stoneyj: what is a chair? 00:03:58 <stoneyj> #chair cmacdonell 00:03:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: cmacdonell heidie lorip stoneyj 00:04:10 <stoneyj> those are who can control the meetbot 00:04:46 <stoneyj> there are times when someone disconnects and forgets to end the meeting... 00:04:59 <lorip> ok, thanks 00:05:04 <stoneyj> but the meetbot won't respond to anyone but the chair... 00:05:09 <stoneyj> so... make more chairs :) 00:05:24 <stoneyj> #link agenda http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_2 00:05:33 <stoneyj> that's the agenda for this meeting 00:06:05 <stoneyj> but before we start, could everyone who is participating in the meeting just give a quick hello please :) 00:06:09 <stoneyj> hi 00:06:14 <rsjodin> Hello 00:06:18 <CyclingFan> Hello. 00:06:19 <cmacdonell> hello 00:06:22 <tom_n> Hello from Tom Naps, U Wis Oshkosh 00:06:22 <kbuffardi> Helloooo 00:06:27 <stoneyj> (think of it as an easy roll call) 00:06:33 <lorip> can people identify themselves? 00:06:42 <rsjodin> Rob Sjodin 00:06:43 <lorip> Lori Postner, Nassau Community College 00:06:51 <CyclingFan> Linda Webster, Westminster College 00:06:52 <kbuffardi> Kevin Buffardi, Chico State 00:06:53 <rsjodin> Rob Sjodin, Regis University 00:06:57 <IngridR> Ingrid Russell University of Hartford 00:06:59 <stoneyj> Ah... good point... I"m used to folks being identified only by their handle 00:07:03 <cmacdonell> Cam Macdonell, MacEwan University 00:07:09 <stoneyj> Stoney Jackson, Western New England University 00:07:24 <stoneyj> awesome... thanks! 00:07:36 <stoneyj> #topic Hotel registration 00:07:46 <stoneyj> I know it's not on the official agenda 00:07:57 <rsjodin> Yes, I’m registered 00:08:01 <stoneyj> just wanted to remind everyone to book their hotel 00:08:18 <stoneyj> otherwise they'll be sleeping on a trundle bed 00:08:19 <stoneyj> :) 00:08:21 <kbuffardi> Thanks, taken care of it on my end. 00:08:27 <lorip> the deadline for the room block is this Thurs 8/20, correct? 00:08:35 <stoneyj> yse... 8/20 00:08:36 <tom_n> I've registered 00:08:38 <stoneyj> yes* 00:08:39 * cmacdonell needs to book 00:08:58 * stoneyj gets his trundle bed ready for camm 00:09:03 <CyclingFan> I still need to register, but am aware of the deadline. 00:09:15 <stoneyj> awesome 00:09:34 <stoneyj> any questions about booking before I move on? 00:09:39 <rsjodin> No 00:09:43 <tom_n> None from me 00:10:00 <stoneyj> couple more joining us here 00:10:11 <dweikle> sorry to be a bit late... 00:10:20 <stoneyj> no problem :) 00:10:36 <dweikle> thanks! :) 00:10:46 <stoneyj> we all listed our names as a quick roll call... can those who just came in do the same please? :) 00:11:12 <lynnlambert> Hi, this is Lynn. 00:11:17 <dweikle> I am Dee Weikle, Associate Professor at EMU in Harrisonburg Va 00:11:21 <stoneyj> also... I was just reminding everyone to book their hotel before 8/20 if they haven't already done so 00:11:30 <stoneyj> great thanks! 00:11:30 <dweikle> I have mine... 00:11:45 <stoneyj> ah... and the agenda is here: http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_2 00:11:49 <stoneyj> perfect! 00:12:01 <stoneyj> #topic updates 00:12:15 <stoneyj> OK... where are folks at on the activities? 00:12:27 <stoneyj> lets go in alphabetic order of handle 00:12:42 <stoneyj> cmacdonell you're not doing the activities are you? 00:12:53 <stoneyj> you've done them before :) 00:13:00 <rsjodin> Working thru the Project Evaluation 00:13:02 <tom_n> I've completed Stage 1 and (just today) Stage 2 except for the portions maked "optional". 00:13:06 <cmacdonell> no, I'm a POSSE veteran here to help others along 00:13:17 <stoneyj> cmacdonell help me along :) 00:13:26 <CyclingFan> I have completed Part A. 00:13:58 <IngridR> Sorry I am behind :-( still in the first stage 00:13:59 <stoneyj> you know... I like rsjodin and tom-n's style... just shout out your status... no need for synchronicity here 00:14:07 <IngridR> but I'll get it done I promise 00:14:20 <tom_n> Oops, I meant part A and part B -- not Stage 1 and Stage 2 00:14:21 <rsjodin> Question/problem … the SCM Data -> Contributors link doesn’t seem to be working for me. 00:14:30 <stoneyj> I like the can-do spirit IngridR 00:14:33 <rsjodin> The link times our. 00:14:33 <kbuffardi> I've completed all of Part A. I've read through all of Part B but haven't completed those activities yet. 00:14:36 <rsjodin> out 00:14:41 <lynnlambert> I have started on the project evaluation (the 2nd part of part b?) 00:14:48 <dweikle> I have done all of Part A, and the reading for Part B first activity, on the Project Evaluation 00:15:14 <lorip> rsjodin: which activity are you referring to? 00:15:19 <dweikle> rsjodin: I had the same problem with the contributors link 00:15:20 <stoneyj> rsjodin can you paste the url to the page with the offending link 00:15:21 <stoneyj> ? 00:15:34 <rsjodin> In the Open Hub (Project Evaluation) 00:15:50 <rsjodin> Just a sec 00:16:20 <stoneyj> dweikle where you able to solve it, or you are stuck too? 00:16:42 <dweikle> I just couldn't answer two of the many questions just yet. 00:16:56 <dweikle> I thought I would try again as it seemed like the link was just timing out... 00:16:57 <lynnlambert> The link took several minutes to come up for me (>5 <10), but it did eventually. When I tried to sort in a different way, I had the same issue. But it did come up. 00:17:05 <rsjodin> If you go to the following link and scroll down to “Contributors”, it times out. 00:17:10 <stoneyj> #topic Questions Stage 1 00:17:10 <rsjodin> #link https://www.openhub.net/p/openmrs 00:17:21 * stoneyj trying 00:17:21 <dweikle> I waited at least 10 and it still didn't work this afternoon. 00:17:37 <stoneyj> lovely 00:18:02 * lorip taking a look and trying to find where that link is in the activity.... 00:18:40 <tom_n> For me, it seemed like, if I couldn't answer a question using openhub, then I could track it down using the github repository for OpenMRS. The relationship between information at openhub anf the github repository is a bit foggy 00:18:44 <stoneyj> seems like all the links in that section have the same problem 00:19:12 <stoneyj> that sounds resourceful tom_n 00:19:35 <rsjodin> It appears in the instuction for FOSS Field Trip Activity 00:19:41 <dweikle> The contributors one is the only one that didn't work for me - I hadn't given up, just had to go do something else... 00:19:52 <rsjodin> #link http://foss2serve.org/index.php/FOSS_Field_Trip_Activity 00:20:05 * stoneyj looks 00:20:23 <dweikle> Sorry, that was a bit obtuse, the only link that didn't work for me was the contributors link on the OpenMRS page as rsjodin indicated 00:20:24 * lorip ahh, I was looking in the Project Evaluation 00:20:31 <stoneyj> yup... it's broken 00:20:43 <stoneyj> is openhub like that for all... 00:20:45 * stoneyj checking 00:20:47 <rsjodin> Note: it’s required to answer some of the questions. 00:20:50 <cmacdonell> fwiw, the Ushahidi project link page is totally wrong, it should be http://ushahidi.com 00:21:24 <cmacdonell> #info fwiw - for what it's worth 00:21:49 <stoneyj> other pages are having problems too... 00:21:51 <dweikle> Also, in the materials section for Part B the link to the SIGCSE paper on evaluating HFOSS project is also broken 00:22:44 <lynnlambert> I googled the name of the paper and found it. 00:23:05 <lorip> dweikle, that is in the Project Evaluation Activity, correct? 00:23:08 <stoneyj> with regards to stalling openhub links... if you can quickly find the information another way, great... but don't spend too much time on it 00:23:41 <cmacdonell> lorip: yes, the link there is broken 00:24:08 <stoneyj> #link offending page: http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Project_Evaluation_Activity 00:24:26 <lorip> I'll try to get a correct link in there for the SIGCSE paper, thanks for letting us know! 00:24:32 <dweikle> lorip: yes, sorry was trying to find the exact link but that is right 00:24:33 <stoneyj> #link offending URL: http://xcitegroup.org/softhum/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=g:evalfossprojects.doc 00:24:58 <stoneyj> awesome! 00:25:11 <dweikle> no problem, I did just Google the obvious and found it in the Digital Library ACM 00:25:21 <stoneyj> other questions, concerns, problems with stage 1 stuff? 00:25:33 <cmacdonell> of course if you through "evalfossprojects.doc" into Google, it works :) 00:25:35 <stoneyj> dweikle DOI link? 00:26:12 <rsjodin> Ok, a dumb question … the definition of the project statuses … are they defined somewhere? or do we just give it our best guess? 00:26:16 <stoneyj> going once 00:26:17 <dweikle> DOI link: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2157260&CFID=704063167&CFTOKEN=38412096 00:26:23 <stoneyj> thanks dweikle ! 00:26:44 <stoneyj> #link a working URL: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2157260&CFID=704063167&CFTOKEN=38412096 00:26:53 <heidie> Hi Folks, sorry I'm late. 00:26:56 <stoneyj> just putting it in the summary :) 00:26:57 <dweikle> *blush I have to admit wikipedia 00:27:29 <stoneyj> OK... next topic 00:27:32 <lorip> hi heidie 00:27:36 <heidie> :-) 00:27:45 <stoneyj> #topic stage 2 questions 00:27:49 <stoneyj> hi heidie ! 00:27:55 <heidie> Hi All! 00:28:14 <stoneyj> any questions about our up coming face-to-face meeting? 00:28:19 <stoneyj> can't wait to meet all of you! 00:28:36 <IngridR> i have a hotel question 00:28:40 <stoneyj> shoot 00:28:49 <IngridR> it is giving me a rate of $109 00:28:59 <IngridR> not $99 as Greg wrote 00:28:59 <stoneyj> hmmm.... 00:29:06 <heidie> You have to follow the link in Greg's email. 00:29:09 * stoneyj checking his receipt 00:29:10 <heidie> Did you use that link? 00:29:18 <IngridR> i did and it did specify that this is the fosse rate 00:29:38 <IngridR> i wonder if they ran out of the $99 rooms 00:29:45 <dweikle> IngridR: When I made my reservation it gave me a rate of $99 for king bed, but $109 for two double beds 00:29:45 <kbuffardi> Do we need to pass along any reservation info, or just bring us along with us when we arrive? 00:29:46 <lorip> I just checked my rate - it was $99... 00:29:54 <lynnlambert> I think it's it's $99 for King and $109 for 2 queens 00:30:09 <tom_n> I reserved a room and got the 99 rate using the link in Greg's email 00:30:17 <IngridR> my guess is that the 2 queens is the only one type left 00:30:22 <cmacdonell> lynnlambert is right 00:30:22 * stoneyj his paperwork shows 99 00:30:32 <heidie> kbuffardi: You should bring your confirmation number, just in case. 00:30:41 <stoneyj> right... the 2 queens was more 00:30:45 <heidie> IngridR: Ah, that could be true. 00:30:49 <CyclingFan> Do we pay for the rooms ourselves and get reimbursed? 00:30:54 <IngridR> if you go now and try to reserve I bet you get the $109 00:31:10 <heidie> I believe that Greg will cover the hotel costs directly. 00:31:17 <heidie> Drexel has a contract with the hotel. 00:31:38 <lorip> CyclingFan: my belief is that the hotel is directly billed to Drexel 00:31:57 <cmacdonell> Also, I need to arrive on Wednesday night due to travelling across the continent, it appears I cannot get the rate for the night before, even though Greg said the rate is good +/- 3 days 00:32:48 <heidie> cmacdonell: you should be fine. 00:32:52 <lorip> heidie: should people contact greg directly since the room block will expire in a few days? 00:33:07 <heidie> lorip: Contact Greg about the rate change? 00:33:15 <lynnlambert> I got the $99 rate at about 8pm tonight. 00:33:20 <heidie> I'd say go ahead and make the reservation before the 8/20 deadline. 00:33:33 <IngridR> i think we should reserve whatever we find now and then Greg can try to resolve it 00:33:36 <lorip> yes... or should they just make reservations (which you just answered :)) 00:33:41 <heidie> IngridR: +1 00:33:43 <stoneyj> yes... greg can resolve it 00:33:51 <heidie> Yup :-) Since he isn't here. 00:33:52 <stoneyj> we should let greg know though :) 00:33:59 <stoneyj> let's all spam his email! 00:34:06 <stoneyj> j/k 00:34:11 <stoneyj> who's emailing him? 00:34:15 <heidie> I will 00:34:20 <stoneyj> thanks! 00:34:31 <stoneyj> I thought I was volunteering by asking :) 00:34:46 <IngridR> lynnlambert you just beat me to the last $99 room 00:34:56 <stoneyj> ok... any other travel, meeting, etc. questions? 00:35:11 <lynnlambert> sorry ... 00:35:35 <heidie> :-) 00:35:37 <stoneyj> OK... anything anyone else would like to talk about? 00:35:40 <kbuffardi> Do you recommend just getting a cab for airport -> hotel? 00:35:47 <heidie> Ah, good point. 00:35:59 <stoneyj> oh yah... I have that question too :) 00:36:01 <heidie> We are in the process of figuring out travel. 00:36:03 <rsjodin> I was planning on getting a cab. 00:36:20 <heidie> Right, we should create a pad and have folks put the times there so that we can coordinate rides. 00:36:43 <stoneyj> ok 00:36:53 <dweikle> I will be driving down so I will have a car and can bring people back and forth from the hotel to the venue 00:36:53 * stoneyj working on it 00:37:11 <dweikle> But probably not able to make it in time for airport to venue 00:37:22 <heidie> Right. 00:37:38 <stoneyj> #link pad for ride coordination https://titanpad.com/posse-rides 00:38:12 <cmacdonell> what's the address of actual POSSE location? 00:38:14 <stoneyj> what should go in the pad? 00:38:45 <heidie> Ah, POSSE is being held at the Red Hat annex. 00:38:53 <heidie> https://titanpad.com/POSSETravel 00:38:56 <heidie> #link https://titanpad.com/POSSETravel 00:39:09 <heidie> I've started with some initial info. Edit at will. 00:39:26 <stoneyj> oops... use heidie's 00:39:44 <cmacdonell> Oh right, we're NOT near Red Hat due to the festival business 00:39:45 <heidie> Opps! Sorry! 00:40:21 * heidie thinks that this is one of the side-effects of having interleaved threads in IRC conversations 00:40:54 <stoneyj> it's easy to fix 00:41:04 <stoneyj> I put a note in the one I created to use the other instead 00:41:23 <stoneyj> at least we had a similar naming convention 00:41:40 <stoneyj> ok... we need an address 00:42:00 <stoneyj> is this it? 500 South McDowell Street, Raleigh, NC 27601 00:42:33 <stoneyj> nope 00:42:44 <cmacdonell> 100 E Davie St 00:42:45 <stoneyj> that's the amphitheater 00:42:54 <cmacdonell> Red Hat Tower is the name I blieve 00:42:56 <stoneyj> we should have our POSSE there! 00:42:57 <stoneyj> :) 00:43:03 <heidie> Yes, Red Hat Tower is correct. 00:43:16 <heidie> 100 E Davie St. is also correct 00:43:30 <cmacdonell> stoneyj: only about 400m between them :) 00:43:37 <stoneyj> Yes... google's street view looks familiar 00:43:48 <stoneyj> Easy hike 00:43:52 <heidie> IngridR: What day are you arriving? 00:43:57 <heidie> Can you add that to the pad? 00:44:03 <cmacdonell> #offtopic does google street map use yards in the US? 00:44:21 <heidie> cmacdonell: I think so? 00:44:37 <stoneyj> #info POSSE location is 100 E Davie St., Raleigh, NC 27601 00:45:14 <lynnlambert> It looks like the annex is 190 E Davie St, but they are right next to each other. 00:45:35 <stoneyj> cmacdonell the english system yes... but feet, not yards 00:45:54 <stoneyj> then jumps to mile 00:45:56 <stoneyj> then jumps to miles 00:46:00 <CyclingFan> Will there be transport from the hotel to the workshop meeting? Or is that what we are trying to coordinte? 00:46:09 <heidie> The Annex is a bit obscure and difficult to find. We'll post people outside to make it more obvious. 00:46:21 <heidie> CyclingFan: Yes, there will be transport from the hotel to the workshop meeting. 00:46:51 * stoneyj goes to find his arrival time 00:46:55 <heidie> Once we have an idea as to how many folks can transport between hotel and Red Hat, we'll rent taxis. 00:47:24 <IngridR> might be a good idea to give us a contact person cell phone 00:47:48 <lynnlambert> I can drive, and fit others in my honda accord. 00:48:05 <heidie> Yes, good! 00:48:09 <heidie> I'll add it to the pad. 00:48:28 <heidie> Oh, better yet, we'll send an email with final instructions with appropriate cell numbers. 00:48:30 <lorip> IngridR: yes, we will send out contact information a little closer to the workshop 00:48:54 <dweikle> So will there be a place for us to park at Red Hat if we take people in our personal cars? 00:48:54 * lorip thinking, I am a step behind heidie tonight :) 00:48:55 <heidie> lynnlambert: Can you add that to the pad? 00:49:07 <heidie> There is a parking garage which we can get comped. 00:49:18 <stoneyj> grr... pad isn't working for me 00:49:22 <dweikle> Perfect 00:49:25 <lynnlambert> yes, heidie, I added it. 00:49:30 <heidie> Ah, thanks! 00:49:55 <heidie> And I heard that one of the Red Hat VPs may come and speak to us at some point. 00:51:38 <CyclingFan> I'm still confused. Is the above discussion about rides related to travel to and from hotel and airport? Has there been travel arranged already between hotel and the workshop? Or do we need to drive our own vehicles to the workshop? 00:52:12 <dweikle> heidie: That sounds good. I am really looking forward to the workshop. 00:52:25 <cmacdonell> CyclingFan: there are three sections to the titanpad for each of what you describe 00:52:26 <heidie> I think it is going to be really exciting! 00:52:29 <heidie> CyclingFan: 00:52:55 <heidie> We will provide rides between hotel and Red Hat. The pad is being used to coordinate rides between the airport and the hotel/red hat. 00:53:18 <heidie> Does that make sense? We need to coordinate as people are arriving at different times. 00:53:40 <CyclingFan> Yes, that makes sense. Thanks. :) 00:53:53 <dweikle> heidie: I thought the middle section was for rides between hotel and RedHat 00:54:32 <heidie> Ah, good point. The middle section is for people who can provide rides between the hotel and red hat to indicate their names and number of passengers. 00:54:48 <heidie> So if you are flying in, you don't need to add anything to the middle section. 00:55:02 <heidie> If you can drive, then add your name and passengers. 00:55:14 <heidie> Once we know how many people can drive, we will arrange taxis to cover the rest. 00:55:22 <kbuffardi> I organized times chronologically 00:55:27 <CyclingFan> But if we are driving in, we should also plan on driving to Red Hat? 00:55:28 <kbuffardi> because I'm neurotic like that 00:55:31 * heidie wonders if she is still making sense? It has been a very long day! 00:55:48 <stoneyj> good idea kbuffardi 00:55:55 <heidie> kbuffardi: Thank you, we must have similar neuroses :-) 00:55:58 <dweikle> heidie: you are making perfect sense... 00:56:06 <heidie> Ah, OK. thanks. 00:56:19 <IngridR> how far is hotel to red hat 00:56:23 <cmacdonell> I believe cars will be used from RH/Hotel on a daily basis if they're available. 00:56:39 <cmacdonell> and cabs for the others 00:56:44 <cmacdonell> IngridR: 6 miles / 9 km 00:56:58 <IngridR> you migth want to chekc to see if the hotel has a complimentary shuttle 00:57:25 <heidie> IngridR: Good idea! I think that Greg checked that when he set up the hotel, but we'll verify. 00:58:13 <stoneyj> OK... we're coming up on 9pm ET... 00:58:19 <stoneyj> anything else? 00:58:32 <tom_n> Greg's email of July 30 said "I’ll be sending another email on local transportation later." 00:58:51 <tom_n> So he may already have a plan 00:59:49 <stoneyj> ok... I'm going to end the meeting... but that doesn't mean ya'll can't stay and chat 00:59:51 <IngridR> just called hotel no shuttle to red hat the comp shuttle goes to 3.5 mile radius 01:00:01 <heidie> Ah, OK. 01:00:14 <stoneyj> and THAT'S how you get things done! 01:00:21 <stoneyj> :) 01:00:24 <IngridR> thatnks all 01:00:25 <stoneyj> lol 01:00:34 <stoneyj> alright .... great meeting all 01:00:39 <rsjodin> Great meeting. 01:00:39 <stoneyj> #endmeeting