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18:11:55 <Darci> #topic Updates
18:12:22 <Darci> So what has everyone been up to? kwurst, do you want to go first?
18:12:29 <kwurst> Ok.
18:13:26 <kwurst> At this week’s OpenMRS developers meeting, there was a discussion of trying to keep dependcies up to dat.
18:13:29 <kwurst> date.
18:13:51 <kwurst> They decided that they are using a very out of date version of hibernate.
18:14:24 <kwurst> They suggested that it might be a good project for an outside group to try to update the version of hibernate.
18:14:43 <kwurst> I’m currently thinking about whether my class could do this for our semester project.
18:15:06 <kwurst> I’ve been bouncing the idea off stoney and he thinks it’s a good idea.
18:15:31 <stoney> sure… throw me under the bus
18:15:39 <Darci> lol
18:15:39 <kwurst> So, my next step is to talk to the project leads and see if this is something they’d be interested in having us do.
18:15:43 <smoussavi> What is your class about?
18:16:31 <kwurst> And, whether they are willing to assign one of the full-time developers to be “product owner” and help us decide what the priorities should be for the tasks.
18:16:46 <kwurst> smoussavi: This is a software development capstone course.
18:17:04 <kwurst> I have 12 seniors who are supposed to be working on a semester-long project.
18:17:12 <smoussavi> Then I agree with Stoney:)
18:17:21 <kwurst> I think that’s it for now.
18:18:04 <stoney> wuhoo! now I’m not the only one under the bus
18:18:07 <Darci> I agree with stoney too! It sounds like it would be an engaging project, especially if you have a full-time developer to work with.
18:18:32 <kwurst> Yes, well that’s the question - will they be willing to do that?
18:18:46 <Darci> rubyK: how about you?
18:21:11 <rubyK> Nothing much after initial converstations with Chris. My plan is to have a student work with me over the summer to map the design and architecture of the OpenMRS android app
18:22:22 <Darci> I told Chris I would share his updates with the group; this is from the email that he sent
18:22:28 <Darci> I listened in on the OpenMRS developer's forum last Thursday but had to get off the call after about 30 minutes. They hadn't gotten to the release plan by the time I left, but from the notes it doesn't seem like they said much about the Android app.
18:22:42 <Darci> I plan on reaching out to the Android app lead soon about getting a student or two involved with that.
18:22:53 <Darci> Last, this semester I'm still planning on using the assignment that we developed in Raleigh. I haven't yet modified the wiki page but will start working on that in early Feb.
18:23:45 <Darci> smoussavi: how about you?
18:23:50 <kwurst> The developer call has scheduled topics, and generally if something is not on the agenda, it won’t be discussed. They usually run out of time...
18:24:29 <Darci> kwurst: is the agenda public?
18:24:49 <kwurst> Yes, I’ll hunt it down and post the URL (hold on…)
18:25:54 <smoussavi> I have not done much last semester, but am planning to use basic exercises this semester.
18:26:11 <smoussavi> kwurst: may be my class can help with part of it, if there is some focused section that can be developed separately and then integrated.
18:26:30 <kwurst> The list of upcoming topics is at the bottom of this page: http://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Developers+Forum
18:27:55 <Darci> kwurst: Thanks! I'll share this info with Chris
18:28:23 <kwurst> If you want to suggest topics, they have “topic fest” every three months. The next on is April 2nd.
18:29:06 <kwurst> #info The list of upcoming topics is at the bottom of this page: http://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Developers+Forum
18:29:17 <kwurst> #info If you want to suggest topics, they have “topic fest” every three months. The next on is April 2nd.
18:30:12 <kwurst> smoussavi: I’ll keep your class in mind, but I’m not sure how that  might work (yet…)
18:30:41 <Darci> I guess I'm next...
18:30:51 <smoussavi> Yes, of course.
18:31:05 <kwurst> #info the topics for the upcoming meeting are usually sent out in an email at the beginning of the week.
18:31:41 <Darci> For those of you at the last POSSE: we talked about my intro homework assignment on open source.
18:32:03 <Darci> I've done a bit of updating and made it available to you on Dropbox.
18:32:17 <Darci> You should have gotten an invitation to the folder.
18:33:02 <Darci> #info Introductory open source homework assignment available on Dropbox. All feedback greatly appreciated!
18:33:15 <smoussavi> Darci: I don't recall receiving invitation for dropbox. Could you please resend?
18:33:23 <kwurst> I got it.
18:33:31 <kwurst> (minutes ago…)
18:33:33 <Darci> I just sent it a few minutes ago...
18:34:07 <rubyK> I got it .. i am in
18:34:13 <smoussavi> I got it now, thanks
18:34:44 <Darci> kwurst: you asked last time about the data structures assignment; I've placed it in the same Dropbox folder, along with feedback from Jeff Ward and Patti.
18:35:12 <Darci> I had done some updating, but if you recall I lost my flashdrive at the end of summer and that work was lost.
18:35:48 <Darci> I did finally take the time to locate the most recent version and find the updates that Patti and Jeff had suggested, now I need to incorporate them again.
18:36:06 <Darci> As before, all feedback is greatly appreciated!
18:36:31 <kwurst> The other thing people may be interested in: They’re making an effort to bring back the OpenMRS University meetings on Wednesdays.
18:36:45 <kwurst> #link http://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/OpenMRS+University
18:36:50 <Darci> #info draft version of the data structures assignment is also on Dropbox, along with feedback from two POSSE alum
18:37:45 <kwurst> #info the list of topics is on that page. Some are open Q&A sessions, some are specific topics.
18:38:09 <Darci> I plan to make a more concerted effort this semester to include a series of homework assignments in my CS2 (and hope to get other faculty to use them as well)
18:38:33 <kwurst> Last Wednesday’s was very useful - a discussion of the difference between OpenMRS Platform and OpenMRS standalone.
18:39:43 <Darci> kwurst: do you know why they stopped doing the OpenMRS University meetings?
18:39:51 <kwurst> #link recording of a discussion of the difference between OpenMRS Platform and OpenMRS standalone: https://connect.iu.edu/p2fjz4d1o6d/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal
18:40:32 <kwurst> They never really stopped, but they were not well attended because they were mostly Q&A sessions, and no one showed up with questions.
18:40:56 <kwurst> This last time they had an announced topic, and a lot of people showed up.
18:41:12 <Darci> Does the same person always run the meeting?
18:41:37 <kwurst> When they thanked so many people for showing up, I suggested that it was because there was an announced topic. I’m going to do the same on the developers list.
18:42:07 <kwurst> Darci: They did assign someone new for this year(?) who is going to try to make them more popular.
18:42:55 <Darci> Do you have a name?
18:43:42 <smoussavi> Are the two names on top an indication of who is running it?
18:43:56 <kwurst> Darci: Matthew Ssemakadde ssemakadde@gmail.com
18:45:16 <Darci> It looks like you can suggest topics on an etherpad - there's a link at the bottom.
18:45:33 <Darci> or add them as comments to the page.
18:45:48 <Darci> kwurst: thanks!
18:45:57 <kwurst> Oh, cool! I guess I never scrolled down that far :)
18:46:22 <smoussavi> Darci: the files you put on dropbox is very useful. I will work on the data structure one and add comments.
18:46:41 <Darci> Is anyone else teaching a CS2 or data structures course?
18:47:03 <kwurst> Everyone should really subscribe to the developers email listserv, if for nothing other than the announcements of meeting topics. I know that there’s lots of email, but I just ignore whole threads that I’m not interested in.
18:47:19 <kwurst> Darci: In the Fall I’m teaching data structures.
18:47:36 <smoussavi> I teach it in the fall as well
18:48:06 <Darci> smoussavi: fyi...the data structures assignment will be used in my CS2 class.
18:48:26 <Darci> We teach a 3 semester sequence: CS1, CS2, and then data structures.
18:48:38 <smoussavi> We do too.
18:48:49 <Darci> Our CS2 is really an introductory data structures course.
18:48:50 <kwurst> I ‘m going have to go soon. Stoney has to kick me out of his house, so he can go to an appointment.
18:49:08 <Darci> okay...thanks for all the info!
18:49:13 <kwurst> Bye.
18:49:17 <Darci> bye@
18:49:21 <smoussavi> Bye
18:49:23 <Darci> bye!
18:50:11 <Darci> smoussavi: maybe we can work on other assignments that can be used in CS2/data structures?
18:50:50 <Darci> I'll continue to put the ones I'm developing on Dropbox and share them with the group.
18:51:23 <smoussavi> Darci: yes, that would be great. I teach programming 2 that has a few basic data structures, data structures, and software design.
18:51:37 <Darci> rubyK: my Android class starts next week, so I'll be looking again at the materials I have. You should be getting something soon!
18:52:34 <smoussavi> Darci: are you going to be sharing the Android ones with everyone as well?
18:54:00 <rubyK> Great ! Thank you Darci . I will be redesgining my Into to Software Development course during the summer to focus on Android development
18:54:06 <Darci> The Android stuff is not related to OpenMRS, although I may look at trying to use the OpenMRS Android app in my class...we'll see. So, I'm not sure.
18:55:27 <Darci> Okay, it's getting close to 2:00. Does anyone have anything else?
18:55:57 <smoussavi> No. When is the next meeting?
18:56:34 <Darci> We are scheduled for Friday, February 13.
18:56:59 <rubyK> Sounds good ..
18:57:02 <Darci> Does that date still work?
18:57:08 <smoussavi> yes
18:57:19 <Darci> Great!
18:57:55 <Darci> Have either of you thought more about putting in a proposal?
18:58:19 <smoussavi> for?
18:58:35 <rubyK> I have a very heavy teaching load this semester. I can do something over the summer if any one is intrested in collaboration.
18:58:39 <Darci> If you recall we have funding support for faculty to develop activities.
18:59:29 <smoussavi> oh, I forgot about that. When is it due?
18:59:38 <Darci> rubyK: do you think you and Chris might collaborate over the summer?
19:00:21 <Darci> smoussavi: there is no particular due date, but our grant end August 31, although we may request an extension.
19:00:54 <Darci> #info Instructor Support Information is available at http://foss2serve.org/index.php/Funding_Support_for_Instructors
19:00:59 <smoussavi> ok. I will think about it.
19:01:12 <Darci> Great!
19:01:17 <rubyK> why not! I will mention it to him and see how it goes
19:01:36 <Darci> This sounds good! :)
19:02:04 <Darci> Okay...anything else?
19:02:12 <smoussavi> Not for now.
19:03:27 <Darci> I'll end the meeting then...it was great to talk to everyone!
19:03:38 <smoussavi> take care. Bye.
19:03:45 <Darci> bye!
19:03:53 <Darci> #endmeeting