15:48:24 <mchua> #startmeeting
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15:49:52 <mchua> We're looking for the page on how to use and make a spin template ("I have a spin and it needs a webpage and it doesn't have one now, what do I do?")
15:50:04 <mchua> and I'm writing my thought process of finding that page out loud here, so others can see my search strategies.
15:50:46 <mchua_projector> I'm going to start at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites because that seems like the logical place to go.
15:52:16 <mchua_projector> ...and then I realize that we can just ask sijis or others in the channel who might know. :)
15:52:25 <mchua_projector> (or the mailing list, if we ask and wait a couple minutes and nobody's around.)
15:55:05 <mchua_projector> Hm. reading through this page, I see that at the bottom, at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites#Projects_2, it says something about spins.
15:55:07 <mchua_projector> What if I click that?
15:55:16 <mchua_projector> Whoa, it takes me to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Spins.
15:55:21 * mchua_projector thinking out loud here
15:56:08 <sijis> mchua_projector: ok. i can help a bit.
15:56:20 <mchua_projector> There's a lot of information on this page, but none of it talks about "I want to make a webpage for a spin, what do I do?"
15:56:41 <sijis> so, it seems we are trying to find out how/where to get the spins template for the spins.fp.o website, correct
15:56:42 <mchua_projector> Thanks, sijis.
15:56:43 * mchua_projector nods
15:56:44 <sijis> ?
15:56:45 <mchua_projector> that's correct.
15:57:08 <sijis> unfortunately, i'm quite sure the 'how-to' is not on our wiki
15:57:41 <mchua_projector> And we may not have noticed that if chartij and the others working on spins websites for F13 hadn't pointed it out by asking their questions, so this is very helpful and good.
15:57:44 <mchua_projector> (so thanks!)
15:58:02 <sijis> the way to get the template, is really looking at the existing content in the git repo and modifying it
15:58:12 <mchua_projector> (It makes me think that one of the things we may want to do, as part of this project, is make sure there *is* a how-to on how to do it, somewhere findable from the main Websites wiki page, so that the next team doing this will have an easier time.)
15:58:17 * sijis notes.. will update wiki for spins content creation
15:58:50 <sijis> mchua_projector: i agree.
15:58:56 <sijis> so you wanna end up here: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-web.git?p=fedora-web.git;a=tree;f=spins.fedoraproject.org/data/content;h=c75d9996e94c831b3c16ba710abfbb6e7e347609;hb=cd72e9ba11a9484086c8fcaa5c1065375acc5271
15:59:32 <chartij> thanks!
15:59:36 <sijis> that's the listing of the content on spins.fp.o
15:59:55 <sijis> in short.. you want to copy a directory, (in this case, i'll use kde as the example)
16:00:06 <sijis> there should only be a single index.html inside of it
16:00:33 <sijis> from that singe page, you get what you see in spins.fedoraproject.org site.
16:00:46 <chartij> ok, im a little slow at this
16:00:51 <chartij> so basically
16:00:52 <sijis> so from http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-web.git?p=fedora-web.git;a=blob;f=spins.fedoraproject.org/data/content/kde/index.html;h=2307dc1641240219b1191b6db5bd8d52f3983815;hb=cd72e9ba11a9484086c8fcaa5c1065375acc5271 to http://spins.fedoraproject.org/kde/
16:01:00 <chartij> i need to copy one of these?
16:02:02 <sijis> yeah, just copy the index.html file that is inside the kde directory. form there you can modify the content
16:02:15 <mchua_projector> chartij: Have you ever worked with html before?
16:02:15 <sijis> i'm looking at this page: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-web.git?p=fedora-web.git;a=blob;f=spins.fedoraproject.org/data/content/kde/index.html;h=2307dc1641240219b1191b6db5bd8d52f3983815;hb=cd72e9ba11a9484086c8fcaa5c1065375acc5271
16:02:52 <chartij> mchua: never...eek
16:03:13 <sijis> chartij: we can help you here, if you have problems.
16:04:18 <mchua_projector> chartij: Ok. It sounds like all the spins groups are in the same situation, so I'm going to do a "intro to HTML" thing up at the front as soon as I pop in and see what the group in the back needs.
16:04:24 <sijis> in short, in that file you want to modify/update the entries at the top that say "#support: irc section, #support: list section"
16:04:25 <chartij> good to know, as im fairly sure there will be problems
16:05:13 <sijis> then.. you want to find the area that says "<!-- tab "panes" -->" and that's the 'content' of your pages
16:05:39 <sijis> you have to remember that these pages are built using genshi, so that we can keep some consitency via templating
16:06:06 <chartij> ok, im already a bit lost, but i think mchua is going to try to show us how to do this
16:06:46 <sijis> chartij: sorry. :(
16:07:43 <chartij> haha its A ok, I've just never worked with making websites. i'll get it eventually, I'll be back!
16:08:25 <sijis> chartij: its simple. it'll take a few tries but you'll get the hang of it
16:23:18 <mchua_projector> sijis: Thanks for the help - I'm going to be sitting down with a few people in person today and tomorrow and walking them through the "let's learn html" process, and hopefully that should bootstrap them enough.
16:23:45 <mchua_projector> Feel free to shuttle questions back to me (and I'll probably relay them up to the course professors).
16:24:02 <mchua_projector> We're here to help the new folks get started so you guys can be Fedora Websites experts (iow, we're happy to handle the novice html questions ourselves too.)
16:26:57 <sijis> mchua_projector: no problem. if there are any questions.. let me know.
16:27:21 <sijis> also.. this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs
16:27:50 <sijis> can show on to create the website that we use
16:28:35 <mchua_projector> !! yes.
16:28:39 <mchua_projector> I'd forgotten about that link.
16:29:13 <mchua_projector> Class just ended, so we're wrapping up things at the front of the room now, but I'll sit down and write an email to the websites list explaining what's going on - I wonder if we confused the websites team too. :)
16:30:08 <sijis> :)
16:37:43 <mchua> sijis: Thanks for helping out with the spins pages today - I'm going to be sitting down with some of the students after my talk this evening and we're going to actually download the html and start making webpages, so that should help.
16:40:01 <sijis> mchua: no problem, anytime
16:40:09 <sijis> (i think the meeting is still going on too) :)
16:41:49 * mchua nods
16:41:51 <mchua> #endmeeting