15:37:49 <gwerra> #startmeeting
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15:37:57 <gwerra> #chairs rbergeron stickster
15:37:59 <rbergeron> and that was logged in as a regular user - but not someone in the cmsadmin group?
15:38:05 <gwerra> Learn to log people  :P
15:38:11 <gwerra> #chair rbergeron stickster
15:38:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: gwerra rbergeron stickster
15:38:14 <stickster> gwerra: Sorry, just getting started ;-)
15:38:14 * rbergeron salutes gwerra for awesomeness
15:39:27 <rbergeron> on the page that has
15:39:31 <rbergeron> Reasons
15:39:33 <rbergeron> Log in using your FAS credentials. If you don't have a FAS account, you can create one here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new
15:39:46 <rbergeron> can we hyperlink that link
15:39:48 <rbergeron> or whatever it's called
15:39:55 <rbergeron> make it clicky :)
15:40:15 * rbergeron wishes for open id
15:40:40 <stickster> rbergeron: What page are you looking at?
15:42:14 <rbergeron> ahhhm
15:42:33 <rbergeron> http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=Users&func=register
15:42:41 <rbergeron> i'm not logged in.
15:42:44 <rbergeron> you should log out to view it
15:42:52 <rbergeron> i got there from the
15:43:10 <rbergeron> "comments can only be submitted by logged in people." when i went to click o nadd a comment while not logged in
15:43:26 * rbergeron detests this keyboard
15:44:20 * stickster just fixed the permissions so that unregistered users can read comments but can't add them.
15:44:34 <stickster> #info unregistered users cannot add comments -- they are asked to register/log in to do so.
15:44:54 * rbergeron nods - i was testing what happens when they try
15:45:01 <rbergeron> making sure it directs them somewhere to do so
15:45:03 * stickster goes to delete the misleading comment he left earlier ;-)
15:45:24 <rbergeron> what comment?
15:46:02 <rbergeron> we could probably note on the comment / register here link i posted that it can take up to an hour, or whatever, for fas to propagate over, if that is what the case is
15:46:13 <rbergeron> so poeple aren't like - oh hey, i just registered but i'm still not able to log in.
15:46:52 <stickster> rbergeron: I don't think that hour applies here
15:47:10 <stickster> The hour is what it takes for your group access to come over to hosts via their /etc/group file
15:47:30 <rbergeron> well - don't new users have to be in cla_done?
15:47:34 <rbergeron> err
15:47:35 <gwerra> rbergeron: http://community.zikula.org/module-Extensions-display-ot-component-componentid-71.htm
15:47:39 <rbergeron> zikula users need to be in cla_done?
15:47:40 <stickster> Yeah
15:47:44 <stickster> Good point
15:47:46 * stickster fixes wiki
15:47:56 <stickster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight_Workflow#In_the_Future
15:48:00 <stickster> OK, that's already there.
15:48:13 * rbergeron remembered something from the cmsadmin/editors/users php process, wooooot
15:48:36 <rbergeron> i think it checked cla_done
15:48:55 <stickster> It does
15:48:59 * stickster really has to reboot now, brb
15:49:02 <rbergeron> k
15:50:31 <gwerra> rrix: :P
15:51:02 <rrix> gwerra: shush, hun.
15:52:29 <rbergeron> rrix: how was trip
15:52:49 <gwerra> rbergeron: he is off to sleep :P
15:52:54 <gwerra> stickster: I am back
15:52:55 <rbergeron> ohhhh
15:53:07 <rbergeron> the gang's all here!
15:53:39 <gwerra> note to self : Next time you want to avoid unwanted guests go to sleep at 8 am, and sleep for 12 hours
15:54:11 <gwerra> stickster: so lets get started
15:54:38 <stickster> gwerra: OK, probably the first thing to do is to do some cleanup on the styling of FWN posts
15:56:01 * rbergeron wonders why she had to approve her comment
15:56:25 <gwerra> stickster: alright, give me a few, looking for the right file and checking the ways the divs go
15:57:16 <stickster> For people in the home audience, that's pages like this: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=pagemaster&tid=4&filter=issue:eq:220
15:57:44 <rbergeron> stickster: all my comments are held for moderation, for some reason
15:57:55 <stickster> rbergeron: Hm, really? As a logged in user?
15:58:02 <rbergeron> logged in as rbergero
15:58:17 <stickster> Ah, yes they are!
15:58:28 <rbergeron> i jus tapproved one
15:58:35 <gwerra> stickster: damn, I forgot to setup my tools on this new laptop, give me a few mins need to do that first
15:58:45 <stickster> gwerra: ok
15:58:51 <stickster> rbergeron: Try commenting *again* now
15:59:02 <stickster> Now that you have one approved, you should be able to comment freely when you're logged in as rbergero
15:59:14 * rbergeron just popped open the mac and was able to submit a comment and log in successfully, although i got a pop-open page of "omg errors galore"
16:00:17 <stickster> Hm interesting.
16:00:18 <rbergeron> no dice, stickster.
16:00:24 <rbergeron> maybe i should log out and back in?
16:00:41 <rbergeron> or delete me from zikula and cmsadmin
16:00:51 <rbergeron> and start from scratch - there might be leftover crumbs somewhere on the trail.
16:01:04 <rbergeron> actually, iirc, we just need to delete me from cmsadmin.
16:01:09 <stickster> rbergeron: The popup is normal -- there's a debug mode enabled
16:01:09 <rbergeron> it fixes zikula permissions for us.
16:01:16 <rbergeron> ohhhhhh
16:01:23 * rbergeron never got that in FF on fedora
16:01:31 <stickster> rbergeron: FF pop-up blocks by default
16:01:37 <rbergeron> Rendering engine debug console
16:01:37 <rbergeron> pndebug plugin found at line 2 in template config/templates/pagemaster/-
16:01:37 <rbergeron> pnRender v1.1, Smarty v2.6.26, Theme v3.3
16:01:37 <rbergeron> Compile check: On, Force compilation: Off
16:01:40 <rbergeron> URL: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/, URI: /zikula
16:01:42 <rbergeron> Included templates and configuration files (load time in seconds):
16:01:45 <rbergeron> and thank god it does :)
16:01:47 <rbergeron> okay! so we're good there
16:02:09 * rbergeron just making sure it looks the same on all platforms and can log in and out
16:02:11 <stickster> rbergeron: You want me to delete your Zikula account 'rbergero' ?
16:02:20 <rbergeron> stickster: actually - instead of that
16:02:27 <rbergeron> delete me from cmsadmin
16:02:37 <rbergeron> IIRC - it should (according to the script) delete me from zikula.
16:02:43 <rbergeron> might as well test it out.
16:02:45 <rbergeron> :)
16:02:53 <stickster> Where's fake FAS again?
16:02:57 <stickster> publictest#?
16:03:03 <rbergeron> i thought it was publictest2.fp.o/accounts
16:03:04 <rbergeron> but
16:03:11 <rbergeron> that's not it
16:03:25 <rbergeron> i think it's documented somewhere in the FI stuff, hang on :)
16:04:09 <stickster> Ah, 3
16:04:12 <rbergeron> yep
16:04:15 <rbergeron> you beat me!
16:04:20 <rbergeron> i can probably just remove myself
16:05:18 <stickster> You have no cmsadmin with account 'rbergero'. Let me check Zikula.
16:05:33 * rbergeron is all logged out of zikula from what i can see.
16:05:42 <rbergeron> i did that prior just in case that would hose things.
16:05:58 <stickster> OK, I removed rbergero from Zikula's Administrators group too.
16:06:07 <rbergeron> okay, i will log in with my regular fas credentials
16:06:15 <rbergeron> is rbergero still in zikula at all?
16:06:19 <rbergeron> users / etc
16:06:19 <stickster> Yes
16:06:33 <stickster> Do you want me to remove that Zikula acct entirely?
16:06:58 <rbergeron> we could - might as well test the "new commenter / user all at once" process, minus the create a new fas account thing
16:07:08 <stickster> rbergeron: okey doke, 1 sec
16:07:11 <rbergeron> we know we can create fas accounts :)
16:07:19 * rbergeron didn't mean to get all hung up on testing ... :)
16:07:23 <stickster> rbergeron: OK done
16:07:35 <rbergeron> ok, lemme go loggggg in
16:08:27 <rbergeron> okay, i'm logged in.
16:08:35 <gwerra> stickster: made my first change, notice a different?
16:08:40 <gwerra> diffference**
16:09:27 <rbergeron> stickster: why am i magically able to get into the administration tab?
16:09:36 <stickster> rbergeron: Ooo, that's not so cool
16:09:59 <stickster> gwerra: I didn't see the before/after so I can't tell, you'll just have to tell me what you've changed :-)
16:10:29 <rbergeron> stickster: did you remove me from cmsadmin on publictest3 or on regular fas?
16:10:37 * rbergeron assumes publictest3 but just double checking :)
16:10:43 <gwerra> stickster: the alignment, moved the text to the right so all the numbers are visible
16:10:50 <stickster> rbergeron: On pt3.
16:11:09 <stickster> rbergeron: You're still in 'cmswriter' on pt3, but that shouldn't matter.
16:11:19 <rbergeron> should it even say "administration" up at the top when a regular user logs in?
16:12:07 <stickster> rbergeron: Not sure. What do you get when you *go* there?
16:12:14 <stickster> If you only see a user CP then it's OK
16:12:40 <rbergeron> a user CP
16:12:42 <rbergeron> oh, control panel
16:12:59 <rbergeron> no - i had access to all the tabs with the modules and such
16:13:02 <rbergeron> pagemaster and all that jazz
16:13:12 <rbergeron> now, i don't konw if i had access to modify any of those setting
16:13:16 * rbergeron doesn't really want to test that :)
16:13:32 <stickster> Uh oh
16:13:35 <stickster> That's not so cool
16:13:48 <stickster> rbergeron: checking users list now on Zikula
16:13:51 <rbergeron> well - maybe we missed something as far as removing permissions.
16:14:25 <stickster> rbergeron: *sigh
16:14:31 <stickster> Apparently Zikula put you in Administrators group.
16:14:55 <gwerra> stickster: I did a little cleanup, now what specifically do you need to be changed?
16:15:01 <rbergeron> okay, do we want to test that from scratch with a new user name?
16:15:11 <rbergeron> with someone who we know has never been in zikula before
16:15:16 <rbergeron> but already signed the cla maybe
16:15:22 <rbergeron> someone awesome we can find on irc right now
16:15:37 * rbergeron would go wake up sdake and make him log in with his fas info but might get strangled as a result
16:15:40 <stickster> rbergeron: No, it shouldn't need that.
16:15:44 <gwerra> Am I in cmsadmin?
16:15:51 * gwerra doesnt know
16:16:07 <stickster> gwerra: No
16:16:11 <stickster> 'hiemanshu' in FAS is not
16:16:33 <stickster> gwerra: I'm going to make a checklist in gobby for some suggested changes to the FWN styles
16:16:35 <rbergeron> what about in ziikula
16:16:45 * gwerra remembers simon upgrading me to one manually
16:16:48 * rbergeron is going to go cook an english muffin
16:17:35 <stickster> gwerra: Your account in Zikula had Admin access, I removed that.
16:17:47 <gwerra> damn, I cant even seen the fornt page now
16:18:26 <stickster> gwerra: try again
16:18:30 <stickster> Or do a shift-reload
16:19:13 <gwerra> stickster: http://hiemanshu.fedorapeople.org/fi_1.png
16:20:13 <rbergeron> gwerra: remove your cookie
16:20:26 <stickster> gwerra: Try again
16:20:33 * stickster restored you to Administrators temporarily
16:21:05 <gwerra> stickster: see it now
16:21:12 <stickster> gwerra: Now log out
16:21:27 <gwerra> I am out
16:21:44 * gwerra had this same thing before too, and it wasnt fixed until simon made me an admin
16:21:48 <stickster> gwerra: Now try reloading your page
16:22:23 <gwerra> stickster: I can see it fine logged out
16:22:32 <stickster> gwerra: Try logging in now
16:23:04 <rbergeron> stickster: btw, drak from zikula was on a few days ago - he said if we need anything, he can assign someone to get on it.
16:23:07 <gwerra> stickster: see it fine now
16:23:20 <stickster> rbergeron: Is he around today?
16:23:31 <rbergeron> he's on the exact other side of the planet
16:23:51 <stickster> rbergeron: There are at least two new tickets pending that we could use help with, I'm recording them on the Agenda section of Insight
16:23:54 <rbergeron> i can drop him a line - drak@zikula.org
16:24:04 * gwerra stares at rbergeron for lying openly
16:24:11 <gwerra> he cant be on the exactly the other side :P
16:24:14 <stickster> rbergeron: Would be good
16:24:35 <rbergeron> gwerra: approximately the other side
16:24:37 <rbergeron> :)
16:24:40 <gwerra> stickster: waiting for you
16:24:44 <gwerra> rbergeron: thats better :)
16:24:49 <stickster> gwerra: OK, good that you can see the page now. Unfortunately that's because Zikula gave you Admin access again :-(
16:25:07 <stickster> gwerra: Do you have Gobby installed?
16:25:19 <gwerra> stickster: err not on this one, /me is doing it
16:25:21 <stickster> I'm going to create a style checklist there for suggested changes.
16:25:31 <gwerra> sure
16:25:34 <stickster> The server is gobby.fp.o;  doc is 'fedora-insight-style-list'
16:25:45 * rbergeron is recruiting herlo to come be a test person to see what happens when he logs into FI - as he's not been in the admin group before
16:25:50 * gwerra hates having to install GTK apps
16:25:52 <stickster> Thanks herlo
16:25:56 <herlo> :)
16:26:03 <herlo> so where do I go?
16:26:05 <rbergeron> herlo: can you go to http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula
16:26:09 <herlo> yup
16:26:12 <gwerra> herlo: back to the dead :P
16:26:14 <rbergeron> oh, wait
16:26:20 <herlo> gwerra: ahhh :)
16:26:22 <rbergeron> you may need to be in fake fas
16:26:35 <herlo> oh, well, put me there too I guess...
16:26:36 <rbergeron> herlo: do you know ifyou're in fakefas on publictest3.fedoraproject.org/accounts?
16:26:48 <herlo> dunno, can try logging in
16:27:09 <rbergeron> if not - can you go there and sign up for an account - you can use the same login / pw to create a new account, then sign the cla :)
16:27:14 * rbergeron owes herlo cookies now
16:27:21 <rbergeron> (don't ask ke4qqq how long it takes to get them)
16:27:22 <rbergeron> :)
16:27:59 * rbergeron is retrieving her muffin - if anyone can help out herlo while he's being awesome that would rule
16:28:09 <herlo> rbergeron: can't get in...
16:28:13 <herlo> signing up now
16:29:02 <stickster> herlo: You will need a "fake FAS" account on pt3 -- https://publictest3.fedoraproject.org/accounts
16:29:29 <gwerra> stickster: gobby installed, connecting now
16:31:12 <herlo> stickster: yeah, got that now
16:31:16 <herlo> per rbergeron
16:31:39 <stickster> herlo: cool
16:31:45 <herlo> :)
16:32:02 <herlo> okay, so I signed up, have signed the CLA, but cannot login to FI
16:32:12 <herlo> Sorry! Unrecognised user name or password. Please try again.
16:33:03 <gwerra> stickster: now which header, the top header, the Section header or the beat header?
16:33:37 <gwerra> stickster: just tell me what it says and I ll change that
16:33:43 <rbergeron> herlo: i'm assuming with the same password you just created on pt3/accounts, right :)
16:34:12 * rbergeron is just double checking :)
16:34:19 <stickster> herlo: Hm, OK
16:34:41 <stickster> gwerra: Made those clearer
16:35:07 <gwerra> stickster: I just fixed those, will make it smaller if you like
16:35:11 <herlo> rbergeron: yup
16:35:27 <herlo> is it working for everyone else??
16:35:31 <rbergeron> herlo: it may take a bit for the fas crap to propogate over.
16:35:46 <herlo> right
16:35:49 <stickster> gwerra: Still not small enough
16:35:49 <rbergeron> yes, but we've been in for a while
16:35:50 <herlo> which is why I asked :)
16:36:03 <herlo> I can try in another 10-15 minutes if you like
16:36:03 <rbergeron> and we tried removing our access and it's still letting us log in as administrators.
16:36:18 <stickster> gwerra: Is the top level title on two lines because of width? Or is that not a style issue?
16:36:25 <rbergeron> so we'd like to try and make sure tht you - who has never been in the admin group or zikula at all - are not getting default administrator access when you log in.
16:36:30 <rbergeron> since that would be bad juju.
16:36:31 <gwerra> stickster: how about now?
16:36:31 <stickster> rbergeron: herlo: I don't think the propagation is an issue here
16:36:35 <gwerra> stickster: its because of the width
16:36:40 <rbergeron> really?
16:36:41 <stickster> Group membership that FAS knows about is instantaneous
16:36:51 <rbergeron> like cla_done?
16:36:56 <stickster> gwerra: Better!
16:36:58 <stickster> rbergeron: yese
16:37:04 <rbergeron> hmmm
16:37:07 <herlo> stickster: we could write a quick supybot plugin here that could tell us
16:37:12 <herlo> .fakefas :)
16:37:20 <stickster> herlo: scope creep
16:37:28 <herlo> stickster: I'm just joking around
16:37:32 <gwerra> stickster: actually thats an style issue, looking at it
16:37:58 * stickster has in-laws here this past week and is out of jokes :-D
16:38:13 <herlo> oh :(
16:38:39 * rbergeron hugs stickster and herlo
16:38:43 <rbergeron> and gwerra while she's at it
16:38:52 <gwerra> rbergeron: NO!!!
16:38:55 <rbergeron> herlo: give it another shot :)
16:38:58 <herlo> kk
16:38:58 * gwerra has to take a shower now
16:39:13 <stickster> gwerra: OK, see you in a bit
16:39:18 <rbergeron> gwerra: i has no cooties
16:39:22 <rbergeron> stickster: more jokes, i think
16:39:23 <stickster> oh
16:39:24 <stickster> another joke
16:39:26 * stickster missed it
16:39:30 * stickster gives up
16:39:31 <herlo> okay, so I logged in, but I got this: Error! The action you wanted to perform was not successful for some reason, maybe because of a problem with what you input. Please check and try again.
16:39:36 <stickster> herlo: Known issue
16:39:43 <herlo> cool
16:39:45 <stickster> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2104#preview
16:39:47 <herlo> now what?
16:39:49 <rbergeron> herlo: so you're in - what does it say at the top right hand corner?
16:39:57 <rbergeron> near something like log out
16:39:57 <stickster> CRAP!
16:39:57 <rbergeron> etc
16:40:02 <rbergeron> do you have a button that says administration
16:40:05 * rbergeron prays for no
16:40:06 <stickster> Well, herlo is in, and Zikula gave him Administrators acces automatically
16:40:12 <rbergeron> oh,
16:40:12 <stickster> *sigh
16:40:13 <rbergeron> that's bad.
16:40:17 <herlo> whee! I am an ADMIN :)
16:40:32 <rbergeron> herlo: thank you, you are an awesome tester :)
16:40:36 <herlo> hehe
16:40:38 <herlo> I know
16:40:40 * herlo blushes
16:40:56 * rbergeron appreciates it even though we discovered things we did not want to find :\
16:41:02 * stickster files infra ticket
16:41:16 <herlo> let me know if you need further testing today, I'll be a happy guinea pig :)
16:41:29 <rbergeron> herlo: awesome, thank you :)
16:41:38 <rbergeron> we just needed someone who we knew for sure had never been in zikula
16:41:45 <rbergeron> sikula / fedora insight
16:41:56 <herlo> right, I know all about it :)
16:42:08 * rbergeron knwos, but is insanely repetitive
16:42:14 <rbergeron> also, i repeat myself a lot
16:42:17 <rbergeron> oh, wait. :)
16:42:18 <herlo> I helped with some of the initial package reviews that ke4qqq did
16:42:29 <rbergeron> ah. thank you for that :)
16:42:40 <stickster> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2105
16:43:20 <rbergeron> stickster: shall i add it to the agenda or are you already on that
16:43:24 * rbergeron goes to mail drak
16:43:52 <stickster> rbergeron: done
16:44:11 <rbergeron> coooool
16:44:23 <rbergeron> stickster: can non-list members post to logistics@?
16:44:36 <rbergeron> or should i just cc: logistics and mail directly everyone involved
16:44:54 <gwerra> stickster: headers look better?
16:44:55 <rbergeron> if you know offhand - otherwise i'll look
16:45:23 <rbergeron> ah, it's open
16:45:26 * rbergeron goes and mails
16:45:29 <stickster> gwerra: Section headers could be a bit smaller still
16:45:41 <stickster> gwerra: Also, take a look at the front page -- appears to be affecting that page layout too
16:46:57 <gwerra> stickster: right fixing that, and I want to keep the headers a same way so we know that its a new section,etc
16:47:49 <stickster> gwerra: So I'm talking about the blue headers like "Fedora Announcement News"
16:47:55 <stickster> Those could be a bit smaller still
16:48:19 <gwerra> stickster: alright
16:48:42 <stickster> It's getting there, bit by bit
16:51:44 <gwerra> stickster: changed, front page looks the same, but the changes are through in the FWN page
16:53:02 <stickster> gwerra: Yeah, nice
16:54:07 <gwerra> stickster: changed section header sizes, look better?
16:54:35 <stickster> gwerra: Yeah!
16:55:13 <gwerra> are we done with header sizes for now?
16:55:18 <stickster> gwerra: I think so
16:55:42 * gwerra moves to the next items on gobby
16:56:42 * gwerra installs kobby
16:58:32 * gwerra notes kobby is better than gobby
16:58:38 <rbergeron> what's our projected launch date?
16:58:41 <rbergeron> was it the 24th?
16:58:49 * rbergeron noting that in the email for urgency purposes :)
16:59:05 <stickster> rbergeron: Refer to previous meeting notes
16:59:50 <rbergeron> oh, my email
16:59:52 * stickster is running into more content bugs today and getting a little skittish about our rollout.
16:59:53 <rbergeron> that's why i can't find them
17:01:09 <stickster> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2106#preview
17:01:57 <gwerra> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2106#preview
17:03:22 <gwerra> stickster: that is most likely because pascal might have not entered everything into full summary
17:03:25 <gwerra> can you double check?>
17:03:30 <stickster> gwerra: Will do
17:04:09 <rbergeron> okay, mail is out.
17:08:10 <gwerra> stickster: fixed it, check it out now, the systemtap article
17:08:45 <stickster> gwerra: What's that thing at the top? http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=pagemaster&func=viewpub&tid=3&pid=8
17:09:21 <gwerra> stickster: looking at it now
17:14:41 * stickster has to take a break for a few minutes, guys
17:14:44 <gwerra> power cut here, /me might DC any time
17:15:01 <stickster> rbergeron: What are you working on currently?
17:16:03 <rbergeron> i'm creating a test article. and have a question -
17:16:30 <rbergeron> the dropdown box where you create content - it says "format" - should it be dropping down into a list? i don't see any other options.
17:16:38 <rbergeron> also: will take things to work on :)
17:20:46 * rbergeron tries to link the image to go to a location
17:21:13 <gwerra> UPS is going to die soon, be back later when I have power
17:23:37 * rbergeron bangs head
17:30:18 * stickster ack
17:30:20 <rbergeron> stickster: where on earth do i approve content that i posted?
17:30:22 <rbergeron> or where does it go
17:30:30 <stickster> rbergeron: Into the Content/pagemaster area
17:30:33 * rbergeron posted an article, but it's not publishing - is there a lag time?
17:31:23 <stickster> rbergeron: You need to give it a publication date and (optionally) an expire date
17:31:40 <stickster> rbergeron: Did you find it?
17:32:42 <stickster> rbergeron: I'm going afk for about 15 min, I need to get lunch
17:33:02 * stickster just finished helping daughter with advice on her independent study project. Thinking about raising on-call rates./
17:33:48 <rbergeron> stickster: go for it.
17:33:53 <rbergeron> ah - okay.
17:36:02 <rbergeron> stickster: spooky.
17:36:12 <rbergeron> my last article posted at the top
17:36:18 <rbergeron> and my other two articles posted at the bottom.
17:36:24 <rbergeron> ing.
17:36:26 <rbergeron> err
17:36:42 <rbergeron> which is why i didn't see them
17:36:47 <rbergeron> and kept trying to publish
17:37:21 <rbergeron> on the plus side: i was able to add an image, and then add a link to that image.
17:37:25 <rbergeron> so that works!
17:38:04 <rbergeron> stickster: may have a new issue though
17:38:13 <rbergeron> we now have 11 stories
17:38:20 <rbergeron> and they are apparently 10 per page
17:38:30 <rbergeron> so - above my top post (testing, again, 4.0)
17:38:40 <rbergeron> there is an arrow - presumably to go to the next and last pages
17:38:47 <rbergeron> and they are pretty ugly where they are placed
17:38:53 <rbergeron> imo
17:39:04 <rbergeron> let me know if you see the same thing.
17:39:46 <rbergeron> also the "why the heck are the posts not posting in order" thing is weird - i didn't actually select a date, but they still published.
17:40:04 <rbergeron> maybe that's why they're at the bottom.
17:40:18 <rbergeron> but it still shows the posting date
17:40:28 <rbergeron> and of coruse the wrong date in the grey box, which i know we have a ticket for.
17:41:10 <nmarques> stickster, thx for your editing 8) it's looks great and more organized now
17:41:52 <stickster> rbergeron: Yeah, the date thing is really weird, but I think I have an idea how to fix it
17:45:19 * rbergeron nodes
17:45:21 <rbergeron> err
17:45:22 <rbergeron> nods.
17:45:33 <rbergeron> we talk way too much about nodes in my house, lol
17:46:04 <nmarques> a simple question
17:46:08 <rbergeron> stickster: do you see the arrows thing now?
17:46:12 <stickster> Yup
17:46:19 <nmarques> would "disc burning" be something worth for feature profiles ?
17:46:29 <stickster> rbergeron: I already put a theme styling request on the gobby doc to ask Hiemanshu to fix taht
17:46:45 <rbergeron> nmarques: is it in the feature list? :)
17:47:13 <stickster> I think that's not as much a feature profile, and more of a "general how to story" that could be published any time.
17:47:13 <rbergeron> i shouldn't say that - anyting is worth writing about
17:47:14 <rbergeron> but
17:47:40 <rbergeron> we have a lot of awesome stuff that could use stories - i think everyone thinks disc burning should just work by now.
17:47:56 <nmarques> rbergeron, if you consider that GNOME 2.30 is there... yeah, it's a feature of GNOME and KDE :)
17:48:05 <rbergeron> if you do want to do media related stuff though - the usb key thing is probably way more awesome than disc burning
17:48:07 <stickster> nmarques: It's not a new feature though.
17:48:11 <rbergeron> :)
17:48:27 <stickster> Yes, we really want to get more people into the idea of making USB keys
17:48:29 <rbergeron> woudl be a great "how to" and "how it was done in the community" story :)
17:48:43 <stickster> USB keys are more functional and allow a larger Live image
17:49:13 <rbergeron> a story interviewing people on how they developed it - and then either you walking through a step by step, or having them (interviewee) do a step by step would be awesome.
17:49:21 <nmarques> stickster, USB keys ?
17:49:36 <mateo> Hi All! I'm the Zikula ambassador sent by Drak
17:49:36 <stickster> Live USB keys
17:49:43 <rbergeron> mateo!!
17:49:49 <rbergeron> wooooot
17:49:54 <stickster> mateo: haha, it's like dispatching an army of warriors :-)
17:49:57 <mateo> nice to meet you guys!
17:50:02 <rbergeron> we are very glad to have you :)
17:50:03 <mateo> hehehe
17:50:04 <rbergeron> welcome!
17:50:11 <stickster> mateo: I've been putting tickets that are causing us problems here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Meeting_agenda:_2010-04-22
17:50:26 <stickster> #2105 is the most serious, followed by #2106
17:50:39 <mateo> ok, lemme check
17:50:42 <rbergeron> mateo: hve you worked with us before, or do we need to get you acquainted with things?
17:50:50 <rbergeron> logins / locations / etc.
17:51:10 <stickster> rbergeron: I'll let you get mateo set up with those things while I look at this date problem to see if my guesses are correct
17:51:33 <mateo> It's my first time, talked sometimes with Simon about the work here, but I don't know details
17:51:59 <rbergeron> stickster: when you come back, if we need to, if you could explain the ssh key process so he can get in.... i'm not so hot on that technical angle explanation. :)
17:52:13 <rbergeron> mateo: first - our zikula instance is located here:
17:52:22 <rbergeron> http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula
17:52:34 <mateo> ack
17:52:36 <stickster> Oh right -- rbergeron: mateo: You'll need to have a RSA-type public SSH key, and also we'll need to get you access to
17:52:39 <stickster> oops
17:52:50 <stickster> Oh right -- rbergeron: mateo: You'll need to have a RSA-type public SSH key, and also we'll need to get you access to 'sysadmin-test' in the real FAS system.
17:52:57 <rbergeron> you'll also need to create an account on http://publictest3.fedoraproject.org/accounts
17:53:03 <rbergeron> mateo: FAS is fedora account system.
17:53:28 <mateo> ok, registering . ... ....
17:53:30 <rbergeron> we have a real one - which is what stickster is talking about with the ssh key.
17:54:01 <rbergeron> we also have a "fake FAS" system for testing. that is located at the publictest3 link i just referenced.
17:54:12 <rbergeron> the actual account system is at ..... pulling up now
17:54:26 <mateo> ok
17:54:58 <rbergeron> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new
17:55:28 <rbergeron> the "fake fas" on publictest3 is the machine which will create the account for you to log into zikula, as it's also on a test machine.
17:55:31 <rbergeron> :)
17:56:54 <mateo> ok, registered at both now: "matheo"
17:57:16 * stickster still trying to locate someone who can approve matheo for that access
17:57:57 <stickster> I'm not sure the Infrastructure guys are used to approving someone for that on an instantaneous basis due to the level of access it provides
17:58:01 <rbergeron> okay. it might take a few minutes for you to be able to log into the zikula instance at http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula -
17:58:13 <rbergeron> but you can give it a shot.
17:58:42 <mateo> ok
17:59:00 <mateo> not yet :-P
17:59:06 <mateo> will read the tickets
17:59:46 <drak> hi all
17:59:54 <drak> hi mateo
17:59:57 <mateo> hey
18:00:04 <rbergeron> FAS has a group on it called cmsadmin - simon created a custom login system for us to allow only people in a certain group to be able to create / edit / approve content. the group is called cmsadmin, and one can apply to be in that group via fas. but right now - when we log in as any user in the fedora account system, it is granting them administrative access.
18:00:06 <drak> cant sleep :-p
18:00:15 <stickster> Poor drak :-\
18:00:17 <rbergeron> hi drak :) thanks for the help
18:00:28 <mateo> :P
18:00:32 <drak> :-P
18:00:46 <mateo> ok, need to check the code of the custom Auth module
18:01:41 <stickster> drak: Do you have a FAS account already?
18:01:46 <rbergeron> .
18:01:48 <rbergeron> errr
18:01:48 <drak> no
18:01:52 <stickster> Hm
18:01:53 * rbergeron nods - that's the piece where we need to get you fixed up with an ssh key.
18:02:03 <rbergeron> u = mateo
18:02:44 <rbergeron> could we drop the code in the mail for you to peek at while stickster goes about getting you admin rights?
18:03:02 <mateo> sure: nestormateo@gmail.com pls
18:04:02 <rbergeron> stickster: do we have the location of that piece documented somewhere? im' not seeing it
18:04:08 * rbergeron goes to look for logs
18:04:11 <stickster> mateo: rbergeron: I think it's actually here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-zikula/browser
18:04:20 <stickster> It's part of an actual packaged module
18:04:25 <stickster> created for use on Fedora Insight
18:05:14 <rbergeron> ohhh, sweeeet.
18:05:43 <mateo> it is, checking
18:05:45 <stickster> AuthFAS/pnuserapi.php is (most of) the file in question
18:06:55 * rbergeron stepping away for a minute or two
18:07:05 <stickster> rbergeron: I think I know why that date thing is wrong
18:07:11 <stickster> Or rather I suspect...
18:07:23 <stickster> that the date field being called is not the publish date of the story
18:07:44 <rbergeron> ahhhhhhhh
18:07:56 <rbergeron> what is it calling?
18:08:06 <mateo> :-P
18:08:09 <stickster> but some other date field that concerns e.g. the category it's posted in
18:08:43 <rbergeron> oh - maybe the creation date of a new category?
18:08:53 <stickster> rbergeron: Right
18:09:09 <rbergeron> ew.
18:09:13 <stickster> I'm having a hard time tracking it down because I don't read Z's code too well yet
18:09:20 * gwerra is back-ish
18:09:29 <stickster> Hiya gwerra
18:09:36 <gwerra> rbergeron: when you click open an article at the bottom you can see Date of Creation: 2010-04-18 17:35:11
18:09:44 * rbergeron nods
18:09:46 * gwerra enabled that in the themes
18:09:53 <gwerra> so its not that the date is wrong
18:09:54 <stickster> gwerra: Right, that's not an issue -- the date displays correctly in the byline
18:10:04 * gwerra looks at the design part
18:10:07 <stickster> gwerra: It's just the display on the index page that's wrong -- but that's not a style issue
18:10:08 <gwerra> on the front page
18:10:39 <gwerra> stickster: yup, I am trying to find the code for it
18:10:54 <stickster> gwerra: Why don't you go ahead and work the style stuff for now
18:11:12 <stickster> gwerra: We actually have two Zikula folks here helping too, drak and mateo
18:11:29 <stickster> And a ticket's filed for the date problem already, so they can help us track it down
18:12:28 <gwerra> stickster: yes, but I know a bit of zikula as well :P)
18:12:30 <gwerra> :)
18:12:44 <drak> awesome
18:12:46 <mateo> guys, that stuff is usually in the design part: templates
18:12:54 <mateo> you see wrong dates, then templates are the issue
18:13:06 <gwerra> drak, mateo : http://fpaste.org/6dcd/
18:13:10 <drak> i'm having real issues with my connection (bad storms here) so I dont know how much use I'll be today
18:13:14 <gwerra> that is the part of the template
18:14:19 <mateo> you can also introduce <!--[pndebug]--> to see all the available variables
18:14:30 <mateo> introduce it at the beggining of the template
18:14:31 <gwerra> sure give me a minute
18:14:36 <stickster> Ooo cool
18:14:43 <stickster> teamwork, nice going mateo, gwerra
18:14:52 <stickster> drak: Sorry to hear about the storms.
18:14:59 <stickster> Thanks for trying, though :-)
18:15:00 <mateo> 2012 is near :P
18:15:02 <gwerra> mateo: done
18:15:05 <drak> :P
18:15:11 <mateo> I saw a Tsunapi reaching nepal on the hollywood movie :P
18:15:19 <drak> irc seems to work, but I cant browse web pages or use ssh
18:15:21 <mateo> *tsunami
18:15:58 <mateo> gwerra: you got a popup with the variables?
18:16:13 <gwerra> mateo: yup, checking
18:16:25 <drak> I assume that's Zikula 1.2.2?
18:16:44 <stickster> drak: Correct
18:16:46 <gwerra> drak: yup
18:16:50 <gwerra> mateo: cr_date is fine
18:17:10 <mateo> the modifier is the issue then
18:17:30 <mateo> |pndate_format
18:17:36 <gwerra> cr_date => "2010-04-18 17:35:11"
18:18:15 <gwerra> mateo:   <span class="month"><!--[$pubitem.cr_date|pndate_format:"%b"]--></span>
18:19:28 <stickster> mateo: You may need to visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts, log in, and complete the CLA
18:19:57 <mateo> ok, odd issue
18:20:15 * stickster waves to abadger1999 -- mateo: abadger1999 is one of our Infrastructure team members
18:20:22 <abadger1999> mateo: Hey, I can approve you for the groups you need.  Just need to have you sign the cla first.
18:20:57 * stickster can help him with RSA ssh key gen and other stuff if needed
18:20:59 <abadger1999> mateo: If you log into your account here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/home/
18:21:14 <abadger1999> I believe the TODO list has a link to signing the CLA.
18:21:59 <mateo> I'm filling my phone number, I just don't remember all the number ATM :P
18:22:01 <mateo> mom
18:22:02 <mateo> pls
18:22:40 <abadger1999> np
18:23:01 <rbergeron> thanks abadger1999 :)
18:23:09 <gwerra> mateo: can we use something like pnfdate_format or something?
18:23:19 <abadger1999> Sure.  If I'm around I like to help ;-)
18:23:26 <mateo> pnf is the pnForum one, old and deprecated :P
18:23:53 <mateo> pndate_format should work, what's the output of |pndate_format:"%b for "2010-04-18 17:35:11" ?
18:24:24 <gwerra> mateo: Apr which is fine
18:24:33 <mateo> :P
18:24:45 <gwerra> %d shows up as 4
18:25:01 * gwerra wonders if it could be smarty as the issue?
18:25:12 <gwerra> mateo: if I am right smarty handles the date right
18:25:26 <mateo> nope
18:25:31 <mateo> that's a custom Zikula plugin
18:25:46 <mateo> on /system/plugins/modifier.pndate_format.php
18:25:50 <gwerra> yes
18:25:55 <gwerra> but that speaks to smarty
18:26:03 * gwerra just checked that file
18:26:16 <mateo> Ammmmm, could be, but too weird.
18:26:26 <gwerra> DateUtil is part of smarty
18:26:38 <mateo> Zikula
18:26:42 <mateo> <!--[$pubitem.cr_date|pndate_format:"%m"]--> is month name?
18:26:45 <mateo> month number
18:26:47 <mateo> not %d
18:27:07 <gwerra> %d is the day number
18:27:20 <mateo> the code you pasted has %m
18:27:45 <gwerra> ah /me fixes that
18:28:14 <mateo> a not that clean alternative is: <!--[$pubitem.cr_date|pndate_format:"<span class="month">%b</span><span class="day">%d</span>"]--> :-P
18:28:18 <gwerra> stickster: fixed
18:28:37 <mateo> :)
18:28:46 <gwerra> mateo: good observation, /me missed taht
18:29:05 <mateo> ya, just went to check the code again :)
18:29:35 <gwerra> :)
18:29:38 <rbergeron> gwerra: any idea why the two articles i test posted earlier showed up at the bottom of the page instead of the top?
18:29:40 <gwerra> stickster: we can close the date ticket
18:29:43 <rbergeron> http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/
18:30:03 <rbergeron> i have two april 18 posts at the bottom - i don't think i selected the publication date, is that the issue?
18:30:14 <gwerra> You should IIRC
18:30:40 <rbergeron> yes - i didn't know that when i created them :)
18:30:59 <gwerra> just update and republish
18:31:01 <rbergeron> dates look much better though! awesome
18:31:05 <gwerra> and see if tit comes up fine
18:31:07 <gwerra> if it**
18:31:20 <mateo> the Apr 18 items seems to belong to a different box
18:31:59 <stickster> gwerra: I'll do that, thank
18:32:01 <stickster> *thanks
18:32:29 <gwerra> stickster: do we want profile linking?
18:32:53 <gwerra> Authour profile linking to be precise
18:33:08 <stickster> gwerra: Yes, that's a plus in my opinion
18:33:25 * gwerra looks up the ticket
18:33:58 <rbergeron> gwerra: update / republish worked with adding the publish date
18:34:19 <mateo> abadger1999: CLA done
18:35:17 <abadger1999> Excellent.
18:35:19 <stickster> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2107 <-- listed on agenda too
18:35:32 <gwerra> rbergeron: also can you edit your user profile and put in your real name?
18:36:58 <gwerra> mateo: <!--[$username|userprofilelink]--> is this the right variable for the profile link?
18:37:07 <rbergeron> surely. one second :)
18:37:15 <abadger1999> mateo, stickster: Account is setup.
18:37:22 <stickster> abadger1999: Thank you!
18:37:36 <mateo> gwerra: I guess that my l� addition for userprofilelink is to work with usernames or UIDs
18:37:41 <abadger1999> mateo: You need to upload an ssh key in order to log in.
18:37:46 <mateo> ok
18:38:01 <abadger1999> I think stickster can walk you through all that.
18:38:08 <stickster> abadger1999: Can do
18:38:11 <abadger1999> Cool
18:38:24 <gwerra> mateo: putting that in the href part should take you the profile page?
18:38:43 <mateo> gwerra: yes ;)
18:39:15 <stickster> mateo: Are you on a Linux platform? If so, just use 'ssh-keygen -t rsa' to make a key. You must use a strong passphrase on it.
18:39:32 <mateo> ok :)
18:39:47 <gwerra> mateo: http://fpaste.org/rCuR/ takes you to the same page
18:39:56 <gwerra> as the posted article
18:40:40 <mateo> ah... mmm
18:40:49 <rbergeron> gwerra: updated my personal info.
18:41:01 <mateo> is not the href then, the plugin builds the complete link
18:41:48 <gwerra> rbergeron: you should see your real name on the front page now
18:42:00 <rbergeron> i do indeed
18:42:13 <rbergeron> is there a way to upload a picture for avatar or is that not a possibility atm?
18:42:21 * gwerra was testing if I for that right
18:42:24 <gwerra> rbergeron: there should be
18:42:37 <stickster> mateo: Once you create that key, you can upload it into FAS -- log in, edit your account, and provide the key which is in your home directory as '~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub '
18:43:02 * stickster would like to make sure we are fixing problems before we are adding features
18:43:19 <mateo> stickster: doing it
18:43:28 <stickster> mateo: awesome :-)
18:44:04 <rbergeron> gwerra: i see a drop-down list of avatars, but no upload-one-here
18:44:13 <mateo> the Avatar module is available, and it uses $userinfo._YOURAVATAR (old name, the next version will use just .avatar)
18:44:39 <mateo> Avatar module allow avatar uploads
18:44:45 <rbergeron> i see ke4qqq is busy with the blog posts today
18:44:46 <gwerra> rbergeron: be happy with what you have :P
18:44:53 <rbergeron> gwerra: i am :))
18:45:05 <mateo> :P Avatar is cool
18:45:35 <gwerra> mateo: we dont have that module yet :)
18:45:48 <mateo> ok :)
18:46:25 <rbergeron> stickster: i propose that we take whatever test items we come up with and put them in a wiki page - add some content on how to get a test zikula account - and maybe run a test session monday or tuesday, if we have time. maybe during mktg-meeting.
18:46:30 <rbergeron> :D
18:46:59 <stickster> rbergeron: That's fine with me, are you going to add them? You could make a simple table so we could {{check}} them as done
18:47:00 <gwerra> mateo: using $cr_uid|userprofilelink would work?
18:47:10 <rbergeron> will do
18:47:16 <stickster> rbergeron: Would be good to wait on that until we have all the test items
18:47:24 * stickster hasn't seen anyone add any in Gobby
18:47:41 <rbergeron> thaaaaaaaaat's the plan
18:47:43 <mateo> yep
18:47:48 <rbergeron> sorry, a key on the fritz.
18:47:50 <mateo> gwerra: yes
18:49:52 <rbergeron> stickster: i'll take it out of gobby when we're done. i'll add some test things as well - wanted to see what we got fixed here, and those things we hope that are fixed we should retest. :)
18:49:57 * rbergeron stepping away again
18:50:13 <gwerra> mateo: err, no Profile View module, do we need it?
18:50:14 <rbergeron> brb
18:50:34 <mateo> indeed, go to Admin > Settings > Profile module for the site
18:50:34 <gwerra> or does the profile module do it?
18:50:37 <mateo> Profile not installed?
18:50:42 <gwerra> Profile is
18:50:50 <mateo> ok, Settings needs to be done then
18:50:50 * gwerra thought Profile Module was seperate
18:51:06 <mateo> it is, so it needs to be set on the Zikula main settings
18:51:30 <gwerra> I go to System > Modules > Profile ?
18:54:10 <gwerra> mateo: ^^ ?
18:54:37 <mateo> gwerra: System > Settings
18:54:53 <mateo> lemme see the english text
18:55:22 <gwerra> okie
18:56:10 <gwerra> mateo: Module used for managing user profiles ?
18:56:15 <mateo> System > Settings > General settings (4th fieldset) > exactly
18:56:17 <mateo> :-P
18:57:08 * stickster takes a look at index to see how it's going
18:57:23 <gwerra> mateo: its select as profile
18:57:32 <gwerra> selected**
18:58:17 <mateo> :-o, so the link should be generated. Which Zikula version?
18:58:30 <gwerra> 1.2.2
18:58:34 <mateo> lemme check
18:59:04 <gwerra> mateo: the code : http://fpaste.org/NwaC/
19:00:05 <mateo> ok, so, you need to build the href without the plugin
19:00:42 <gwerra> how do I do that?
19:00:50 <mateo> moment pls
19:01:13 <gwerra> sure
19:03:11 <mateo> <!--[pnmodurl modname='Profile' func='view' uname=$username]-->
19:04:57 * gwerra tries that
19:07:36 <mateo> the CSS needs to be fixed to not perturb the pager images eh?
19:08:34 <gwerra> well it takes me to my profile
19:08:42 <gwerra> Need to take it to author profile
19:09:07 <gwerra> change uname to uid and $username to $cr_uid?
19:09:10 <mateo> ah, so, take $cr_uname ?
19:09:53 <mateo> if you use the uid, you need:
19:10:01 <mateo> <!--[pnmodurl modname='Profile' func='view' uid=$cr_uid]-->
19:10:43 <mateo> $cr_uname! lol
19:10:55 <mateo> I'm a little messed here, sorry, that doesn't exists xD
19:11:09 <gwerra> :P
19:11:59 <gwerra> mateo: yup that worked
19:12:11 <gwerra> rbergeron: http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=Profile&func=view&uid=35
19:12:26 <gwerra> stickster: you want linking on the front page too?
19:12:52 <stickster> gwerra: Linking of... ?
19:12:56 <stickster> people to profiles?
19:13:14 <gwerra> Author name to profile
19:13:43 <stickster> gwerra: Yes, makes sense to me
19:14:15 <stickster> gwerra: After that's completed, do you plan to return to the styling stuff?
19:14:58 <gwerra> stickster: once I am done with stuff I cant do alone like this, I can get back to styling that I can do on my own
19:15:10 <gwerra> I dont want mateo or drak coming in here very often :)
19:15:24 <stickster> makes sense gwerra
19:15:33 * stickster isn't qualified to help at this point
19:15:42 <mateo> CSS is nice :)
19:15:49 * stickster watching and trying some things here to understand the system internals
19:16:01 <rbergeron> gwerra: what am i looking for
19:16:03 <mateo> BTW, -moz-* stuff needs -webkit--* stuff too, at least eh?
19:16:33 <gwerra> stickster: check the front page now
19:18:19 <rbergeron> gwerra: is there something i should be looking at with my account you linked?
19:18:46 <gwerra> rbergeron: nope, just showing it to you :)
19:18:54 <rbergeron> oh
19:18:59 <rbergeron> ok
19:19:05 <rbergeron> it looks the same as before is all :)
19:20:30 <gwerra> rbergeron: look at the front page, profile linking is working and changed text color
19:20:35 <stickster> gwerra: mateo: drak: How do we fix the display of Zikula internal labels to show the translated (at least 'en' locale) content?
19:21:06 * stickster tried copying /modules/Profile/locale/ stuff to /config/locale/ but that doesn't appear to have caught everything
19:21:14 <mateo> uh, which labels or which localized content?
19:21:18 <stickster> When I click on someone's name and see their profile there's a lot of untranslated labels.
19:21:23 <mateo> some of the i18n is not finalized
19:21:23 <stickster> http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=Profile&func=view
19:21:31 <gwerra> mateo: err cr_uid wont work on index.php any idea how to do that?
19:21:42 <gwerra> stickster: yes looking at it
19:21:49 <drak> the profile labels
19:21:55 <mateo> $pubitem.cr_uid? what shows pndebug?
19:21:57 <drak> you need to update your PO files
19:22:27 <stickster> drak: At what location?
19:23:35 <gwerra> mateo: worked
19:23:48 <mateo> :)
19:23:52 <gwerra> stickster: try now
19:24:03 <drak> first edit the POT file for profile
19:24:21 <drak> add they keys that are shown in the dynamic user data in the profiles
19:24:26 <drak> _AVATAR or whatever
19:24:30 <mateo> location: /modules/Profile/locale/$code/LC_MESSAGES/module_profile.mo
19:24:53 <drak> then you open the old po file in POEdit and UPDATE FROM POT
19:25:00 <drak> this will add the new keys
19:25:14 <drak> you have to then translate them,
19:25:37 <drak> you can override in the /config/locale/$code/LC_MESSAGES/module_profile.po
19:26:09 <drak> there are docs here:
19:26:09 <drak> http://community.zikula.org/index.php?module=Wiki&tag=TranslationIndex
19:26:09 <mateo> lol
19:26:18 <mateo> Drak has the corrent location
19:26:27 <mateo> I'm just sleeping :P
19:26:29 <stickster> OK, I think I got it figured out
19:26:34 <drak> specifically http://community.zikula.org/index.php?module=Wiki&tag=HowtoCustomizeTranslations I think
19:26:39 <drak> (my connection is too slow atm)
19:26:51 <stickster> mateo: drak: 'msgmerge -o new.po module_profile.po ../../module_profile.pot'
19:27:00 <drak> yup
19:27:02 <stickster> 'mv new.po module_profile.po'
19:27:03 <drak> that'll do it
19:27:10 <stickster> 'msgfmt module_profile.po'
19:27:18 <stickster> 'mv messages.mo module_profile.mo'
19:27:41 <drak> most of our users dont have access to these commands so we're not used to folks using it :)
19:27:41 <stickster> http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/index.php?module=Profile&func=view <-- hmm, still not giving me joy
19:28:01 <drak> did you move it to the override location?
19:28:13 <drak> the .mo file I mean
19:28:45 <stickster> drak: It's in /config/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES
19:29:08 <stickster> Is there a cache expiry I need to do or something?
19:29:13 <drak> no
19:29:19 <drak> browser?
19:29:27 <stickster> I did a force reload
19:29:36 <drak> if you use chrome it has hard caching need to SHIFT+F5
19:29:58 <stickster> Yup, that's how I did it
19:30:13 <stickster> Err, rather Shift+Ctrl+R in Firefox
19:30:33 <drak> funnty though, I thought those strings were already handled in the current /mo
19:30:54 <gwerra> stickster: let me give it a try
19:30:58 <stickster> gwerra: OK
19:31:19 <drak> possibly the file wasnt merged propery?
19:31:27 <rbergeron> gwerra: just saw your comment on front page changes. very nice :)
19:31:37 <stickster> drak: Let me pastebin it for you, but it looks OK
19:31:37 <drak> you want to merge ontop of the existing module_profile.po
19:32:53 <stickster> Right, I did that.
19:32:56 <stickster> q.v. above
19:33:41 <stickster> drak: http://fpaste.org/Lno6/
19:33:57 <drak> you could always try copying over the module_profile.mo in the Profile module (just in case the override isnt working for some unknown reason).
19:34:22 <stickster> drak: The problem with that is that when we go to staging and then production, that won't be carried over.
19:34:35 <drak> sure
19:34:37 <drak> I see the problem
19:34:49 <drak> you dont have the keys in that file
19:34:52 <drak> you have to add them
19:35:07 <drak> msgid "_UFAKEEMAIL"
19:35:22 <drak> msgstr ""
19:35:31 <drak> (editing the POT file)
19:35:38 <drak> then merge that to the PO file
19:35:44 <drak> edit the po file and translate them
19:35:48 <drak> then compile your .mo
19:35:56 <stickster> drak: You sure? I see that on line 970
19:36:15 <drak> this is necessary because these keys are dynamic from the DB
19:36:32 <drak> oh I see, my f**ing connection...
19:36:37 <drak> it's stopped at line 542
19:36:39 <drak> :-P
19:36:40 <stickster> ah
19:37:31 <drak> now i cant get past line 10 :-P
19:39:47 <drak> http://code.zikula.org/profile/browser/tags/Profile-1.5.2/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES
19:40:18 <drak> afaik, unless you created any new dynamic fields (which it looks like you didnt) the .MO file there should work
19:40:20 <mateo> .mo file?
19:40:43 <stickster> compiled .po = .mo
19:41:04 <drak> try using the version from SVN just in case
19:41:40 <drak> this is what we are using at http://community.zikula.org with no manual  modifications
19:42:02 <drak> are you using Profile-1.5.2?
19:43:58 <stickster> drak: Interestingly, the file's the same size as the one I created myself
19:44:01 <stickster> Still not working
19:44:30 <drak> does mateo have access to the staging env?
19:44:43 <stickster> drak: He should at this point
19:44:53 <stickster> mateo: You should now be able to do 'ssh publictest6.fedoraproject.org'
19:45:01 <mateo> ok, lemme see
19:45:01 <gwerra> you dont need keys for pt machines
19:45:06 <stickster> drak: The only difference between the MO files is the date.
19:45:23 <gwerra> so you should instantly for the pt machines atleast using pass auth
19:45:34 <stickster> gwerra: Ah, cool!
19:45:38 <stickster> mateo: ^^
19:46:18 <mateo> uh, my sshkey passphrase doesn't work, nor my FAS pass
19:46:53 <gwerra> mateo: just a sec
19:47:40 <gwerra> mateo: is your account name matheo ?
19:47:42 <abadger1999> mateo: Ah -- You made a fas uername of matheo but you're trying to use mateo to log in.
19:48:18 <mateo> :-o
19:48:22 <mateo> indeed ��
19:48:29 <drak_> can you run strings module_profile.mo please?
19:48:35 <gwerra> ssh matheo@publictest6.fedoraproject.org
19:48:50 <gwerra> mateo: ^^
19:50:25 <gwerra> brb, reboot
19:50:29 <mateo> I'm in
19:50:33 <mateo> what's the path?
19:50:35 <drak> back
19:51:11 <gwerra> mateo: sudo -s && cd /usr/share/zikula
19:51:23 <stickster> drak: Were you looking for me to run that strings?
19:51:29 <drak> yes
19:51:43 <drak> pastebin it
19:52:37 <stickster> http://fpaste.org/jFVe/
19:53:03 <drak> well it has the keys and translations in it..
19:53:26 <drak> i assume the default language is en
19:53:35 <mateo> Mmmmmm, all seems fine in the .mo :-?
19:53:36 <stickster> correct
19:53:42 <drak> no other language packs installed?
19:53:45 <drak> en_GB etc?
19:53:46 <stickster> drak: Not that I know of
19:53:50 <stickster> Anywhere I need to check for default lang?
19:54:09 <drak> in the admin settings -> localisation
19:55:06 <mateo> en is the only language there
19:55:53 <mateo> but /locale/en/locale.ini should be there isn't it?
19:56:16 <drak> yes
19:56:18 <stickster> drak: I tried 'enable multilingual' and even 'enable lang variations' there, no changes
19:56:29 <stickster> default language is set to English
19:56:37 <drak> is the locale.ini missing?
19:56:53 <drak> mateo: is the locale.ini missing?
19:57:04 <gwerra> drak: no
19:57:14 <stickster> There's a locale/en/locale.ini
19:57:28 <mateo> ah, it's there
19:57:33 <stickster> Does that need to come to /config/locale/en/ too?
19:57:38 <mateo> nope
19:57:40 <stickster> ok
19:57:53 <mateo> file perms seems fine too
20:05:08 <drak_> sorry, having bad time again
20:05:13 <drak_> connectivity is horrid
20:05:31 <drak_> I signed up to the accounting system
20:08:23 <drak_> can you add me to the staging server?
20:10:19 <stickster> drak_: What's your user name in the account system?
20:10:35 <drak_> drak
20:12:42 <gwerra> stickster: I have to leave now, its 2AM, i ll finish up the styling items listed on gobby within a day or two
20:12:48 <stickster> gwerra: Thank you
20:12:57 <stickster> drak_: Do you have a SSH key uploaded?
20:13:01 <mateo> gwerra: will see if i do some stuff now
20:13:07 <drak_> yes
20:13:13 <gwerra> mateo: sure
20:13:13 <mateo> gwerra: sleep well ;)
20:13:19 * gwerra is off
20:13:21 <gwerra> Night guys
20:13:23 <gwerra> mateo: you too
20:13:25 <drak_> nite nite
20:13:43 <gwerra> drak_: you should sleep too, raat ho gayi hain :)
20:13:50 <drak_> :)
20:14:14 <abadger1999> drak_: Okay, try to login to publictest6.fedoraproject.org
20:14:15 <drak_> ma sutnu parchha :)
20:14:21 <gwerra> drak_, mateo : Thank you for helping
20:14:32 <drak_> np, it's a pleasure!
20:14:37 <drak_> ok it worked
20:15:53 <drak_> i wonder if it's because of this being a 32 bit environment...
20:16:54 <stickster> ?
20:17:20 <drak_> the way binary files are read is different
20:17:24 <drak_> big/little endians
20:17:31 <stickster> Um
20:17:41 <stickster> That should be mediated already by glibc.
20:17:46 <drak_> I'll have to look at the gettext reader, I think this could be the issue
20:18:01 <drak_> no because we're doing it in PHP
20:18:27 <drak_> I've copied everything to a subdir, I'll test there
20:21:57 <rrix> rbergeron: trip was good
20:22:31 * stickster will have to get afk by about 2100 UTC
20:23:40 <rbergeron> rrix: glad to hear it
20:24:28 <rbergeron> stickster: i'll copy all that stuff into a test list on wiki after you head off, and add any other items - will blog and see if maybe we can come up with some testing time / day.
20:26:02 <drak_> has Zikula been patched in any way?
20:26:18 <drak_> seems like some code is not being executed as expected...
20:29:37 <stickster> oops
20:29:40 <stickster> drak disappeared on us
20:29:54 <stickster> mateo: re: drak's question -- not that I'm aware of
20:30:44 <stickster> mateo: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/EL-5/zikula/
20:31:12 <stickster> Looks like there's a minor patch for a hash library
20:31:14 <stickster> But that's is
20:31:15 <stickster> *it
20:35:39 <stickster> Did drak come back?
20:35:49 <rbergeron> nada.
20:36:00 <stickster> He may have been knocked off for good
20:36:02 <stickster> :-(
20:36:54 <mateo> I'm talking with him about all this ;-)
20:42:45 <stickster> mateo: OK -- just confirmed, the Zikula that's on pt6 only has that hashpatch on 1.2.2 according to the repo
20:43:29 <mateo> drak is back :)
20:43:35 <stickster> drak_: The only thing it changes is the location of the pnTemp directory, and removes a call to sha256
20:43:47 <drak_> ok
20:43:54 <drak_> where is pnTemp located?
20:45:26 <drak_> i found it
20:50:59 <rbergeron> fyi: putting something in the oven for 9 minute and setting the timer for 9 hours is bad.
20:51:14 <drak_> :-P
20:51:36 <drak_> I think I had better go to bed
20:51:43 <drak_> I will resume tomorrow
20:54:18 <stickster> drak_: OK
20:54:22 <stickster> rbergeron: True
20:56:07 <stickster> drak_: I'll be around tomorrow early US EDT time
20:56:13 <stickster> Probably not nearly as late for you
20:56:23 <drak_> ok
20:56:42 <drak_> may take a day in any case
20:56:47 <drak_> there is something weird
20:56:56 <drak_> it will be something small as usual
20:58:27 <stickster> drak_: I'll put you on cc for the tickets in the system
20:58:47 <drak_> ok
21:04:13 * rbergeron thanks everyone for helping today and wishes she knew more about coding stuff to help more :|
21:05:48 <drak> back
21:06:00 <rbergeron> :)
21:06:10 <drak> so did a test
21:06:28 <drak> i downloaded the test env to my local machine lock stock and the translations work
21:06:53 <drak> so it's something to do with the environment... I'll need to do some debugging and see
21:06:57 <stickster> Weird
21:07:01 <drak> yeah..
21:07:16 <drak> it's either a paths or permissions issue
21:07:37 <drak> or funny endian numbers... but I doubt it
21:08:43 <drak> possibly because zikula is outside the webroot and we've made filepath calculations that dont match.
21:09:21 <drak> it's something like that, so I'll debug again in the morning... at least  I can be sure it's env based
21:14:13 <drak> bingo
21:14:28 <drak> Zikula is reading the .mo path as /var/www/html/zikula/draktest/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/zikula.mo
21:14:35 <drak> but it lives elsewhere
21:15:21 <drak> I'll roll a patch into 1.2.3 which is due in two days
21:17:28 <rbergeron> stickster: i put the test list on wiki and linked it to the agenda
21:17:44 <drak> i'm opening a ticket on our tracker
21:17:51 <stickster> rbergeron: Great, thank you
21:18:01 <stickster> drak: Thank you
21:18:05 <drak> assumiong my internet connection will allow me
21:18:06 * stickster thanks everyone!
21:18:06 <drak> geee
21:18:07 <drak> grrr
21:18:23 * stickster getting the evil eye from SupaWife, time to disappear off the computer
21:18:31 * rbergeron waves to stickster
21:18:36 * drak waves
21:18:43 * rbergeron has been getting the evil eye since 9am :)
21:18:55 <drak> my wife is sleeping :-P
21:19:04 <drak> it's 3am here
21:20:21 <stickster> rbergeron: I placed the style needs in a ticket too -- https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2109
21:22:25 <stickster> Linked on Agenda page
21:22:28 <stickster> and... I'm outtie
21:25:17 <drak> http://code.zikula.org/core/ticket/1977
21:26:12 <drak> oki, really time for bed :)
21:26:15 * drak waves
21:26:51 * mateo waves too
21:35:55 <rbergeron> stickster:
21:35:59 <rbergeron> ah
21:36:14 <rbergeron> #info zikula style needs are in a ticket, and on agenda page.
21:36:22 <rbergeron> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2109
21:36:37 <rbergeron> #info zikula testing needs are on agenda page, and also on the wiki.
21:36:55 <rbergeron> #link #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight_Testing
21:37:07 <rbergeron> #endmeeting