21:00:19 <giannisk> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-01-20
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21:00:24 <giannisk> #meetingname emea ambassadors
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21:00:33 <giannisk> #chair giannisk sesivany
21:00:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: giannisk sesivany
21:00:37 <giannisk> #topic Roll Call
21:00:59 <giannisk> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region.
21:01:13 <giannisk> Let's see how many people we have around.
21:01:18 <giannisk> Use .fas yourusername
21:01:21 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
21:01:21 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
21:01:23 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
21:01:24 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
21:01:25 <jonatoni> .fas jonatoni
21:01:27 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
21:02:19 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
21:02:19 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
21:02:38 <giannisk> Only 4 people around?
21:03:52 <sesivany> looks like :/
21:04:01 <giannisk> We can wait for a few more minutes, see if anyone else shows up.
21:04:04 <sesivany> everyone's getting ready for FOSDEM :)
21:04:36 <ardian> .fas ardian
21:04:37 <zodbot> ardian: gunma 'Mardian Gunawan' <gunawanmardian@gmail.com> - dwreski 'Dave Wreski' <dwreski@guardiandigital.com> - ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <ardian.haxha@gmail.com> - btxaja 'Arief Mardianto' <arief.mardianto1@gmail.com> - syahmare 'Andi Mardiansyah' <syahmare@gmail.com> - n00b1 'Steven Toth' <dragondungeonguardian@hotmail.com> - ardiansyahy 'ardiansyah' <ard14nsyah@yahoo.co.id> - guardian 'Stephan Kürpick' (1 more message)
21:04:40 <mrunge> .fas mrunge
21:04:40 <zodbot> mrunge: mrunge 'Matthias Runge' <mrunge@redhat.com>
21:06:10 <giannisk> Okay let's get going. Seems like it's going to be a short and quiet meeting. :)
21:06:19 <giannisk> #topic Announcements
21:06:37 <giannisk> We have fosdem next weekend.
21:07:09 <giannisk> Which is held every year in Brussels and is one of the largest free and open source conferences out there.
21:07:19 <giannisk> Fedora will be there, like always.
21:07:33 <lupinix> .fas lupinix
21:07:33 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix@mailbox.org>
21:07:36 <lupinix> hi all
21:07:46 <giannisk> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2016
21:08:10 <giannisk> #info FOSDEM 2016 will take place between 30-31 Jan in Brussels. Fedora will be there!
21:08:43 <giannisk> Another important event is DevConf, which will be held during the next weekend after FOSDEM.
21:09:21 <giannisk> During the last day of DevConf we're going to hold a mini-FAD, along with fellow ambassadors and contributors.
21:09:37 <giannisk> And we're going to discuss about this year's event plan and the budget.
21:09:43 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DevConf_2016
21:09:54 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
21:09:55 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
21:10:21 <ardian> giannisk: question
21:10:35 <giannisk> #info DevConf 2016 will take place between 5-7 Feb in Brno, Czech Republic. A mini-FAD for EMEA will be held.
21:10:38 <giannisk> ardian: sure
21:11:10 <ardian> Will there be any IRC/Video Conference open at the DevCon meeting ?
21:11:26 <giannisk> ardian: probably there will be
21:11:29 <sesivany> we'll do our best effort to have it.
21:11:42 <sesivany> the connectivity will be sufficient.
21:11:52 <giannisk> ardian: we will let everyone know
21:11:55 <ardian> awesome!!
21:12:20 <giannisk> ardian: eof? :)
21:12:26 <ardian> yep, eof
21:12:33 <giannisk> thank you ardian
21:13:10 <giannisk> Another thing is the "Fedora Year in Review" initiative.
21:13:18 <giannisk> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/what-is-a-fedora-year-in-review/
21:13:32 <robyduck> .hello robyduck
21:13:32 <giannisk> Here's an interesting read on the Fedora magazine.
21:13:33 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
21:14:30 <giannisk> Sub-projects, commuinities and everyone interested are encouraged to publish "their year in review".
21:14:49 <giannisk> That's all the announcements from my side.
21:14:55 <giannisk> Anything else? Any questions?
21:15:46 <robyduck> we have a new release schedule for F24
21:16:47 <rsc> .hello robert
21:16:48 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
21:17:55 <robyduck> giannisk: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule
21:18:08 <robyduck> not sure if you already added it before
21:18:37 <giannisk> robyduck: thanks
21:18:56 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule
21:19:32 <giannisk> Anything else? :)
21:19:48 <jflory7> !
21:19:57 <giannisk> jflory7: go ahead
21:20:13 <frafra> .hello frafra
21:20:14 <zodbot> frafra: frafra 'Francesco Frassinelli' <fraph24@gmail.com>
21:20:38 <jflory7> A tad late, but about the Year in Review stuff, there's an example published on the Community Blog now for Fedora CommOps. The minimum is three highlights and one goal, but more are perfectly fine, and encouraged!
21:20:48 <jflory7> Let me find a link.
21:20:57 <jflory7> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/commops-year-in-review/
21:21:00 <jflory7> That's an example of one
21:21:13 <giannisk> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/commops-year-in-review/
21:21:25 <jflory7> And pictures are a great thing to include in these too, so anyone has pictures lying around, this is definitely the time to do a little digging on the camera roll. :)
21:21:34 <sesivany> jflory7: are there any badges for that? ;)
21:21:52 <jflory7> If anyone has any questions or needs help, feel free to ping me or ask in #fedora-commops, we're happy to help and provide feedback on this. :)
21:22:11 <jflory7> sesivany: Not immediately, but it is *definitely* something on the map. :) We're hoping at getting badges in the near future.
21:22:13 <jflory7> eof
21:22:40 <giannisk> thank you jflory7
21:22:50 <jflory7> No problem :)
21:23:17 <giannisk> Anything else, anyone?
21:24:55 <giannisk> Okay, moving on.
21:25:07 <giannisk> #topic Requests
21:25:18 * giannisk takes a look at the emea trac.
21:26:10 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1
21:26:36 <giannisk> #info Ticket #546 - EMEA Ambassadors meetup in DevConf16: Travel and Lodging for all
21:26:47 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/546
21:27:05 <mitzie> giannisk: !
21:27:07 <giannisk> mitzie: the stage is yours :P
21:28:07 <mitzie> So yeah, I'm requesting money for the lodging for all of us. The actual amount is much less, but I'm requesting more if more people decide to come
21:28:24 <mitzie> Our hotel will be hotel Vista (true irony) :P
21:28:33 <sesivany> :)
21:28:50 <mitzie> We will have the special price from the treasurer
21:29:00 <mitzie> *conference, sorry :P
21:29:12 <mitzie> eof
21:30:31 <giannisk> So, up to 450 USD for lodging for everyone and 345 USD for mitzie's personal travel cost.
21:30:37 <mitzie> the total requested amount is 795 USD, and I've also included my travel expenses
21:31:02 <giannisk> Thats makes 795 USD in total, yes.
21:31:17 <sesivany> +1
21:31:22 <jonatoni> +1
21:31:27 <giannisk> +1
21:31:36 <lupinix> +1
21:32:13 <giannisk> One more vote needed.
21:32:16 <ardian> +1
21:32:21 <mrunge> +1 (if my vote counts)
21:32:53 <mrunge> one nit, what does lodging for all means here?
21:32:59 <giannisk> At least 5 individual votes, approved.
21:33:03 <sesivany> mrunge: sure it does, you're an ambassador.
21:33:06 <mrunge> for everybody? probably not
21:33:14 <giannisk> mrunge: accommodation :)
21:33:23 <mrunge> giannisk, that's different
21:33:34 <mrunge> the request is funding for a single person
21:33:56 <mitzie> For now we are 3 people that are coming (me, giannisk, and jona). but I've requested more in case more people decide to come
21:34:10 <giannisk> mrunge: mitzie has put his personal travel expenses + the accommodation costs for everyone under the same ticket
21:34:22 <mrunge> aha, ok.
21:34:29 <decause> .hello decause
21:34:30 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
21:34:44 <mrunge> (not voting against funding), just requesting to make it clear
21:35:02 <decause> really looking forward to meeting you all at DevConf :)
21:35:04 <giannisk> #agreed Ticket #546 Approved
21:35:13 <giannisk> mrunge: no worries :)
21:35:49 <mitzie> #info we have budget to bring more people to DevConf for the meetup. If you are interested, please open your ticket asap.
21:35:53 <mitzie> eof
21:36:03 <giannisk> #info Ticket #545 - Funding Request for Giannis Konstantinidis - DevConf 2016
21:36:10 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/545
21:36:14 <giannisk> This one is mine.
21:36:47 <giannisk> To be subsidized to participate at the mini EMEA FAD during DevConf.
21:37:05 <giannisk> Everything is explained in the ticket.
21:37:26 <giannisk> Max. amount requested: 340 EUR
21:38:00 <giannisk> This includes a taxi for mitzie and me. Unfortunately we have to take a flight in the early morning and there are no bus routes between our city and the airport.
21:38:33 <lupinix> +1
21:38:35 <giannisk> That's the cons of living in a small Greek island.
21:38:40 <sesivany> +1
21:38:47 <jonatoni> +1
21:38:53 <mrunge> +1
21:38:54 <mitzie> +1
21:38:55 <ardian> +1
21:39:12 <giannisk> At least 5 individual votes, approved.
21:39:36 <giannisk> #agreed Ticket #545 Approved
21:39:59 <giannisk> Next one.
21:40:20 <giannisk> #info Ticket #544 - EMEA Ambassadors meetup in DevConf- Travel for Jona Azizaj
21:40:26 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/544
21:40:39 <giannisk> jonatoni:
21:41:09 <jonatoni> Hi, I'd like to request funding to participate at the EMEA mini-FAD during DevConf 2016.
21:41:30 <jonatoni> and everything is explained in ticket
21:41:46 <jonatoni> the*
21:42:27 <sesivany> +1
21:42:30 <mrunge> +1
21:42:31 <giannisk> +1
21:42:35 <lupinix> +1
21:42:50 <ardian> +1
21:43:01 <sesivany> just a note: please state prices in $$, that's our budgeting currency.
21:43:02 <mitzie> +1
21:43:13 <jonatoni> sesivany: yes, right
21:43:35 <mrunge> same applies to giannisk
21:43:46 <mrunge> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/545
21:43:48 <giannisk> mrunge: of course it does :)
21:44:12 <giannisk> will convert the amount later
21:44:36 <rsc> Why do we have USD as default currency for EMEA?
21:44:45 <giannisk> At least 5 individual votes, ticket approved.
21:44:52 <mrunge> sorry folks, have to drop off now, have a great evening
21:45:04 <giannisk> #agreed Ticket #544 Approved.
21:45:47 <giannisk> That would be all regarding requests I guess.
21:45:58 <giannisk> Any questions so far? Anything else?
21:47:25 <giannisk> Okay, moving on.
21:47:31 <giannisk> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
21:47:40 * giannisk looks for the link to the schedule.
21:47:50 <giannisk> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-ambassadors-tasks.html
21:48:56 <giannisk> Nothing specific I'd like to comment about.
21:49:38 <giannisk> Schedule has been updated today to reflect the new dates.
21:49:48 <giannisk> Any questions? Anything to add?
21:51:00 <giannisk> If not, we will be moving on to the next topic.
21:51:53 <giannisk> Alrighty.
21:51:56 <giannisk> #topic Events
21:52:16 <giannisk> FOSDEM and DevConf are ahead.
21:53:01 <giannisk> I've already starting communicating with sponsored Fedora contributors attending FOSDEM.
21:53:13 <giannisk> And we're looking for new ways to make our booth look special.
21:53:27 * sesivany nods
21:53:30 <giannisk> So, If you have anything in mind, feel free to let us know and/or even contribute!
21:54:40 <sesivany> giannisk: can you bring a demo pc?
21:54:40 <ardian> !
21:55:00 <giannisk> giannisk: I will bring my laptop for sure.
21:55:09 <giannisk> s/giannisk/sesivany
21:55:39 <giannisk> sesivany: I can also bring a large screen, provided that someone else can bring a SBC with Fedora
21:55:47 <giannisk> A single-board computer that is :)
21:55:57 <b10n1k> .fas b10n1k
21:55:59 <zodbot> b10n1k: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' <jbonatakis@gmail.com> - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' <california17@gmail.com>
21:56:25 <sesivany> I have none... but the monitor can also be connected to the laptop, a larger screen is always better.
21:56:30 <ardian> What has happened to the fedora cubes, haven't see one of these in a long time
21:56:46 <ardian> https://arsenicks.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2010-06-16_18-08-09_624.jpg
21:56:56 <giannisk> sesivany: true, true, we can arrange for that as well
21:57:32 <b10n1k> +1
21:57:32 <giannisk> ardian: yeah, we haven't been seeing these for quite some time.. though the design is out there
21:58:06 <giannisk> ardian: from my experience, large cheatcubes are hard to be made by using simple printer paper
21:58:34 <sesivany> the design is outdated
21:58:46 <sesivany> unless someone has already updated it.
21:58:55 <ardian> hmm
21:59:28 <b10n1k> !
21:59:31 <sesivany> we can't give away cubes with InitV commands. We switched to systemd in F15.
21:59:46 <giannisk> b10n1k: yes
22:00:00 <ardian> I think having some kind of flayer of the fedora magazine is also good promotion (not sure if we have one)
22:00:03 <ardian> eof
22:00:07 <b10n1k> do you have a link for the design?
22:00:13 <giannisk> sesivany: I was under the impression that it was updated since then
22:00:19 <b10n1k> may i can do smth for that
22:00:21 <b10n1k> eof
22:00:47 <giannisk> b10n1k: I don't have the link atm but it can definitely be found by searching on the wiki.
22:00:58 <lupinix> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401
22:01:05 <sesivany> giannisk: maybe it's been, I just haven't seen it yet.
22:01:05 <b10n1k> yeah i guess
22:01:35 <ardian> b10n1k: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_collateral?rd=Artwork/MarketingCollateral
22:03:17 <giannisk> Okay, anything else regarding FOSDEM? Or events in general?
22:03:50 <b10n1k> thanks
22:04:52 <giannisk> If not, we can move on to the next topic.
22:06:18 <giannisk> Okay.
22:06:28 <giannisk> #topic Action items from previous meetings
22:06:39 * giannisk looks for the previous meeting minutes.
22:06:51 <giannisk> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-01-06/emea_ambassadors.2016-01-06-21.00.html
22:07:48 <giannisk> There was an action item assigned to me, about posting on the ML a reminder for the inventory cleanup.
22:08:01 <giannisk> I did send out the reminder, so no more action items left.
22:08:21 <giannisk> #info No action items left from the previous meeting
22:08:29 <giannisk> Any questions? Anything else?
22:09:13 <giannisk> Okay, on to the Open Floor.
22:09:18 <giannisk> #topic Open Floor
22:09:25 <giannisk> Anything else goes here :)
22:09:41 <mitzie> !
22:09:47 <giannisk> mitzie: yes
22:11:00 <b10n1k> !
22:11:07 <ardian> !
22:11:35 <giannisk> b10n1k, ardian you're on hold :)
22:11:42 <b10n1k> lang
22:12:10 <mitzie> Will make an event plan and make an initial draft proposal for the upcoming fiscal year in DevConf. Traditionally we make our first draft in FAD, but we didn't have one this year
22:12:13 <giannisk> #undo
22:12:13 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x1548dd10>
22:12:26 <giannisk> #topic Open Floor
22:12:43 <mitzie> After that we have until the end of February to submit the final budget proposal for FY17
22:13:47 <mitzie> So in the mean time thing of events that you would liek to represent Fedora, I'll make a wiki page for that and for the budget
22:13:53 <mitzie> *think
22:13:59 <mitzie> eof
22:14:12 <giannisk> thanks mitzie
22:14:16 <giannisk> b10n1k: yes
22:14:58 <b10n1k> how much time do I have to edit the deisgns?
22:15:27 <giannisk> b10n1k: depends on your availability :)
22:15:28 <b10n1k> s/deisgns/designs
22:15:58 <giannisk> b10n1k: the cheat cube is generic and not release-dependent, so there is no pressure
22:16:19 <giannisk> s/dependent/specific
22:16:22 <b10n1k> give me a deadline and I will come back to u //w an update
22:17:11 <giannisk> Assign yourself a deadline and get back to us, I can't and I do not want to assign a deadline to you, hehe :)
22:17:40 <b10n1k> alright
22:18:13 <giannisk> b10n1k: eof?
22:18:18 <b10n1k> eof
22:18:52 <giannisk> thank you b10n1k
22:19:00 <giannisk> ardian: yes
22:19:32 <ardian> I want to bring up the "Let's equip our Communities in EMEA" topic, how can we help on this
22:20:26 <giannisk> Thanks for bringing this up
22:20:39 <giannisk> As discussed in the previous meeting, and also mentioned on the mailing list...
22:21:02 <giannisk> ...we wish to enable local communities in EMEA and provide them with booth equipment.
22:21:16 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Community_Equipment
22:21:39 <giannisk> We have asked people to add info about their communities.
22:22:02 <ardian> Maybe producing the stuff locally is much cheaper ? We have terrible customs in Kosovo, and afaik in Albania is the same
22:22:44 <ardian> I could check the prices here and maybe have a wiki/list
22:23:03 <giannisk> The results we have show us that we have many active communities w/out a banner or a tablecloth for the booths.
22:23:28 <giannisk> ardian: Well, I was thinking that we can get better prices with a larger production.
22:24:28 <lupinix> we should do this before FY16 ends, right?
22:24:30 <ardian> giannisk: I had a package with stickers and swag from Mozilla once, our customs wanted 300 euro for that :)
22:25:06 <ardian> and TBH I am not sure how I can solve this problem, without having a proper paper that states we are not a company lol
22:25:19 <giannisk> If community members are able to request quotes for a banner/tablecloth, find the best option, produce everything and request a reimbursement, I'm totally fine with that.
22:25:55 <giannisk> lupinix: we have to open a budget request for this before FY16, yeah.
22:26:04 <ardian> I can take a look at this and send an email about it.
22:27:42 <giannisk> Please do. Also please post on the mailing list thread with your suggestion (for everything to be produced locally by the communities).
22:27:53 <ardian> ok
22:27:56 <ardian> eof
22:28:44 <giannisk> #action ardian post on the mailing list thread with suggestions for the EMEA Community Equipment Initiative
22:28:47 <giannisk> ardian++
22:28:47 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for ardian changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:29:02 <giannisk> Anything else?
22:29:12 <giannisk> Otherwise we can end this meeting in 3 minutes.
22:29:44 <lupinix> ardian++
22:29:44 <zodbot> lupinix: Karma for ardian changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:30:10 <lupinix> i'm off now, good night everyone :)
22:30:22 <giannisk> lupinix: cheers, good night
22:30:34 <giannisk> We can end this meeting in 2'
22:30:34 <ardian> lupinix: good night
22:31:15 <giannisk> Thanks everyone for attending, see you again in two weeks!
22:31:17 <b10n1k> bb
22:32:20 <giannisk> #endmeeting