00:59:44 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
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00:59:48 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:00:00 <wrnash> Hi there
01:00:01 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
01:00:36 <wrnash> I guess just the 2 of us
01:00:39 <award3535> #chair wrnash
01:00:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 wrnash
01:00:52 <award3535> hello wrnash
01:01:04 <wrnash> How you been.
01:01:11 <award3535> last week it took a few minutes for everyone to show up
01:01:13 <wrnash> Sorry I did not make it last week,
01:01:15 <award3535> great and you
01:01:27 <wrnash> I'm doing ok.
01:02:00 <award3535> we had some things come up last week that we will bring up during the tickets part of the meeting
01:02:15 <wrnash> ok
01:02:27 <wrnash> I read the meeting notes from last week also.
01:02:55 <award3535> great, then you see some frustration with the boxes and shipping
01:03:02 <wrnash> yep
01:03:24 <award3535> seems like there is just a handful of us left running things
01:04:04 <wrnash> how can we get more people to join?
01:04:43 <award3535> on the ambassadors side I am referring to, and I have recruited one so far and trying to get another involved at the moment
01:05:13 <wrnash> We might want to send out a message to newgroups asking for people to join.
01:05:20 <wrnash> That is good.
01:05:23 <award3535> let me change the zbot
01:05:28 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:06:09 <wrnash> I'm trying to get a a friend to join from Colorado.  He is thinking about it
01:06:11 <award3535> At events I try to get folks to sign up, only one so far, but will keep trying
01:06:57 <wrnash> what about posting a message in fedora magazine.
01:07:18 <award3535> I can write one for the magazine, that is no problem
01:07:26 <award3535> that was a good idea!!!
01:08:54 <award3535> I will take that for action then
01:08:58 <wrnash> ok
01:09:43 <award3535> #action award3535 to write fedora magazine article prospecting for future ambassadors
01:09:43 <Cydrobolt> hi
01:09:58 <Cydrobolt> how is it going?
01:09:59 <award3535> #chair Cydrobolt
01:09:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: Cydrobolt award3535 wrnash
01:10:16 <wrnash> Hi Cydrobolt
01:10:29 <award3535> great we were just discussing getting more folks involved in the ambassador program
01:11:53 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:12:05 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:12:16 <Cydrobolt> hi wrnash
01:12:36 <award3535> .famnaticket 104
01:12:38 <zodbot> award3535: #104 (SELF 2015) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/104
01:13:51 <award3535> This ticket is good to go, there should be no action, nb is bringing swag and Tshirts for the event. we discussed this yesterday evening, that will allow me to bring shirts to TXLF and Orlando
01:14:47 <award3535> I will move the ticket to open unless we need to revisit the budget for more ambassadors attending.
01:15:15 <wrnash> I agree
01:15:18 <Cydrobolt> where is SELF being hosted at?
01:15:33 <wrnash> looks like in NC
01:15:36 <Cydrobolt> ah, got it
01:15:37 <award3535> Southeast Linux Fest in Charolette NC
01:15:52 <Cydrobolt> award3535, I heard that we are looking to expand influence on university crowd
01:16:04 <award3535> kk4ewt and I usually coordinate the event but this year I cannot attend
01:16:13 <Cydrobolt> I can definitely help out in that aspect, since I am a student and am active in the college hackathon community
01:16:34 <award3535> that would be great, we need some student ambassadors
01:17:11 <Cydrobolt> hackru got our stickers on around a thousand student hackers' laptops
01:17:45 <wrnash> Nice
01:17:50 <award3535> but the group will be hard to convince because most of them already use some sort of linux flavor
01:17:59 <Cydrobolt> not necessarily
01:18:07 <Cydrobolt> I've talked to a lot of them at hackru
01:18:27 <Cydrobolt> there were a range of people
01:18:28 <award3535> well put some feelers out and if they are interested steer them my way
01:18:43 <Cydrobolt> some knew ubuntu, some knew *some* linux but weren't really religiouos
01:18:46 <Cydrobolt> religious**
01:19:10 <Cydrobolt> I think the ones that were already set on a certain distro were around 2 or 3 %
01:19:24 <Cydrobolt> I know a lot of the student hacker crowd is on mac osx or mint/ubuntu
01:19:42 <award3535> have them check out our security spin distro
01:19:59 <Cydrobolt> by "hackers", I don't mean penetration testers, though
01:20:07 <Cydrobolt> just coders or developers in general
01:20:30 <award3535> yes so do I, the security spin offers almost everything except metasploit
01:20:36 <Cydrobolt> although showing them spins would be interesting
01:20:49 <award3535> but can be loaded after loading the os
01:20:53 <Cydrobolt> oh, right
01:21:13 <Cydrobolt> we gave away all our DVDs, but we don't have a way of tracking the # of installs afaik
01:21:33 <award3535> we can discuss this more in open floor, let me get through the tickets, and to answer your question not really
01:21:49 <award3535> .famnaticket 105
01:21:52 <zodbot> award3535: #105 (Event Box and Banner Handling for events) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/105
01:22:38 <award3535> I wish ParadoxGuitarist was here, I had some specific questions for him
01:22:50 <award3535> I can email him
01:23:14 <wrnash> is there a way of doing a inventory of the boxes and storing the information in a database.
01:23:25 <award3535> this ticket was opened for getting the items updated and tracked.
01:23:25 <wrnash> that way there is some way of tracking the boxes
01:23:55 <wrnash> and we can determine how many items are given out at each event.
01:23:58 <award3535> wrnash there is a sheet on the wiki page that shows what is supposed to be in the box,
01:24:05 <wrnash> Correct
01:24:22 <wrnash> but there is no way of knowing for sure the items in each box.
01:24:50 <wrnash> do most of the ambassadors just make due of what they have when they receive the box?
01:24:51 <award3535> not right at the moment, because each region has different things in them
01:25:49 <award3535> the box is suposed to have generic items, tablecloth, router, power strip, ext cord, etc....
01:26:16 <award3535> along with the IBM Laptop, OLPC, and some admin items
01:27:16 <wrnash> i'm just trying to figure out a way to monitor the inventory of each box.
01:27:18 <award3535> they all were supposed to be the same, I have never seen the west coast box, but the mid and east are different
01:27:34 * masta looks in
01:27:36 <masta> howdy folks
01:27:41 <award3535> evening masta
01:27:44 <wrnash> Hi Masta
01:27:50 * masta waves
01:27:52 <award3535> #chair masta
01:27:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: Cydrobolt award3535 masta wrnash
01:28:01 <Cydrobolt> o/ masta
01:28:41 <masta> wrnash: I think we shoudl ship all the boxes to flock, and run an inventory
01:28:48 <award3535> wrnash that is something that will be hard since most of us are volunteers
01:29:07 <masta> we did that for the Lawrence fudcon a while back, and was greatly effective
01:29:08 <wrnash> I agree it is a very hard task
01:29:22 <masta> I am happy to inventory the box in my garage
01:29:35 <award3535> and then the next question would be how to replenish when supplies are low or something gets broken
01:29:38 <jsandys> What is hard?
01:29:43 <wrnash> Masta if you need help i can drive over on the weekend and help out
01:30:05 <masta> wrnash: sure, if you want.
01:30:37 <masta> I'd like to ship this box to somebody... it's been with me for nearly a year.
01:30:58 <award3535> what about the other boxes, the east is with kk4ewt
01:31:09 <award3535> mid should be with nb
01:31:09 <masta> anyways, they do run out of supplies so a box is good to be kept with a shipper type person
01:31:23 <masta> award3535: I have nb's box
01:31:25 <award3535> yes I agree
01:31:29 <award3535> cool
01:31:43 <award3535> the east does stay with the shipper
01:32:10 <award3535> masta, we will need the mid in august for TXLF
01:32:40 <masta> award3535: ok, I'll action myself to crack it open and inventory it
01:33:08 <award3535> thank you. and I believe kk2ewt has already done so for the east
01:33:19 <award3535> just waiting on the west coast
01:33:32 <masta> guitarfreak has that one?
01:33:38 <award3535> yes
01:34:08 <award3535> this weeks meeting is the first that he has missed in a while
01:34:27 <masta> I see
01:35:25 <award3535> I also discussed banner updates with kk4ewt along with new tablecloths for all three boxes
01:35:56 <award3535> I spent an hour on the phone with him two nights ago
01:36:38 <masta> cool, I was looking at table cloths a while back too. Would be nice to get one that resists stains. or the kind cheap enough we don't care if they stain, as they can be replaced.
01:37:06 <award3535> So I will update this ticket to reflect inventories on boxes to discover what supplies and items are needed in each box
01:37:11 <masta> I was thinking vinyl material or some such.
01:37:49 <award3535> A nawgahide would be easier to clean
01:38:08 * masta googles "nawgahide"
01:38:44 <danofsatx-lt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naugahyde
01:39:03 <masta> oh hey danofsatx-lt
01:39:04 <award3535> thank you thats the correct spelling
01:39:13 <danofsatx-lt> hey masta ;)
01:39:30 <masta> danofsatx-lt: will you be attending TXLF again this year?
01:39:30 <award3535> #chair danofsatx-It
01:39:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: Cydrobolt award3535 danofsatx-It masta wrnash
01:39:31 <danofsatx-lt> I wanted to talk to y'all about TXLF, I was going to wait a bit... ;)
01:39:48 <danofsatx-lt> Yes, I am attending, and willing to man the table.
01:40:00 <award3535> that will be four of us then
01:40:04 <danofsatx-lt> This on is a helluva lot closer to me
01:40:08 <masta> danofsatx-lt: I'm nto sure where we are in the discourse, award3535 ? (can we talk abotu txlf, or are we off-topic) ?
01:40:09 <jsandys> Fabric works best IMHO, lighter
01:41:07 <award3535> masta we will continue with the box items for a few meetings I can move to open floor
01:41:43 <masta> ok
01:41:50 <award3535> moving to open floor
01:41:52 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:42:22 <award3535> danofsatx-it do you want to bring up TXLF?
01:42:23 <masta> danofsatx-lt: cool, will be good to see you again, and we can take shifts at the table.
01:42:41 <danofsatx-lt> 'tis mutual, masta
01:42:54 <wrnash> I would like to help out at TXLF. that is if Verizon does not go on Strike
01:43:15 <award3535> the ticket has not been created for the event yet, just the wiki
01:43:38 <masta> award3535: yep, I wanted the wiki to be setup so the ticket has something to point at
01:44:03 <danofsatx-lt> I'm not an "official" ambassador, though - does that matter?
01:44:16 <award3535> I already updated it with us going from SE GA
01:44:40 <award3535> danofsatx-IT are you interested in becoming one?
01:45:05 <danofsatx-lt> I'm not sure. I don't know what kind of time or flexibility it would require.
01:45:15 <masta> danofsatx-lt: it's fine, you're in enough groups already, and an elected (or was it appointed) to a working group.
01:45:35 <danofsatx-lt> My, umm, employment situation may be chaning soon (for the better), so I'd have a LOT more free time
01:45:57 <danofsatx-lt> masta: elected to both KDE and Server WGs
01:46:31 <award3535> so why isnt he one already, just a formaility at this point
01:46:48 <masta> danofsatx-lt: well there you go. You're part of the project, we can add you to ambassadors, anybody here a mentor?
01:46:57 <award3535> I am
01:47:09 <masta> award3535: ok, he will be an easy one.
01:47:21 <masta> ;-)
01:47:34 <award3535> He just needs to follow the pages and select me as a mentor
01:47:35 <danofsatx-lt> hey, I may be easy, but I'm expensive
01:47:44 <award3535> arent we all
01:47:48 * danofsatx-lt is looking for those now...
01:48:46 <award3535> most of the instructions like creating a fas account, user page, select a mentor, then its just a couple of steps away
01:49:28 <danofsatx-lt> Do I just submit a request through FAS?
01:50:17 <award3535> hold on, I will get the starting link for you.
01:51:17 <award3535> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors   in the middle of the page select start your member ship here, it goes through all the steps
01:53:21 <award3535> going back to TXLF the site does not give sponsorship costs yet
01:53:36 <danofsatx-lt> I noticed that. I'm waiting for that info to drop.
01:53:53 <award3535> plus I need to get the room costs nailed down
01:53:53 <danofsatx-lt> #TXLF is populated however, and they will occasionally answerquestions
01:54:24 <masta> Once the ticket is created, I'm going to specify we go for gold or silver again... whatever we did last year.
01:54:27 <award3535> as soon as the information is available I will start the ticket
01:54:53 <award3535> that is fine, since we will have ample support this year
01:55:28 <masta> I'd also maybe like to sponsor the lanyards if Canonical has not already.
01:57:27 <masta> ok so anyways.... I've got to get going.
01:57:32 <award3535> we will have to see what the budget is going to be like this year for this event as well, what did we spend last year, I was on travel then
01:57:45 <masta> thanks guys, I'll be in touch this week in the main ambassadors chan
01:57:52 <award3535> thank you for coming masta, have a great rest of the evening
01:58:12 * masta wonders off
01:58:16 <danofsatx-lt> night masta
01:58:37 <award3535> ok folks we are about out of time, any thing else on the plate
01:59:19 <danofsatx-lt> only thing I noticed is that the wiki for joining appears to be incorrect.
01:59:46 <award3535> danofsatx-it, I will look for your mentor request
01:59:57 <award3535> it seems to get me to the right place
02:00:02 <danofsatx-lt> The group is by invite only, I can't request it
02:00:36 <danofsatx-lt> There is no actual place to "request" membership that I can find, unless it's via the list
02:01:08 <award3535> the page should have you create a fas account first then join the mailing list
02:01:20 <danofsatx-lt> That's all done.
02:01:59 <award3535> user page created
02:01:59 <danofsatx-lt> oh wait, you're an ET? I was a DS1 until the killed the rate and forced me to be an ET
02:02:22 <award3535> yep, I retired 8 years ago
02:03:17 <danofsatx-lt> I was up for ETC when I was rear ended and pushed into a ravine by an 18 wheeler.
02:03:46 <danofsatx-lt> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dmossor
02:03:53 <award3535> the process should get you from fas account, user page, explore, choose a mentor, at that point you choose and I create the ticket
02:04:58 <danofsatx-lt> ok, I need to read more. It says I need to email you...stand by
02:05:25 <award3535> ok we have to give up the meeting anyway, I will look for your email.
02:05:38 <award3535> #endmeeting