06:00:16 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n 06:00:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 13 06:00:16 2015 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:16 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:00:20 <pravins> #meetingname i18n 06:00:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:23 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call 06:00:30 <paragan> hi 06:00:31 <pravins> Hi all !! 06:00:39 <pravins> who are available today for meeting. 06:00:45 <ueno> hi 06:00:51 * pravins expecting quick meeting today 06:00:57 <pravins> hi ueno paragan :) 06:01:04 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-05-13 06:01:47 <pravins> while other joining lets move to first topic 06:01:52 <epico> hi 06:01:52 <juhp> hi 06:01:53 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:02:04 <pravins> hi epico juhp :) 06:02:08 <pravins> #info 2015-05-26 Fedora 22 Final Release 06:02:12 <mfabian> Hi! 06:02:16 <pravins> We had final freeze yesterday. 06:02:20 <pravins> hi mfabian :) 06:02:33 <pravins> Is there any important blocker issue pending from i18n side? At least i did not saw any. 06:03:00 <juhp> https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/22/final/buglist 06:04:08 <pravins> thanks juhp for link :) 06:04:14 <pravins> at least no blocker from i18n side. 06:04:36 <pravins> Same time we should note now its 3 products :( 06:04:51 <fujiwarat> hi 06:05:01 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :) 06:05:32 <pravins> May be we should do some better planning for F23 to involve more with Server and Cloud development. Or at least keep track for whats happening. 06:06:06 <pravins> lets move ahead. 06:06:07 <pravins> #topic New topics 06:06:10 <pravins> #info #40: Fedora 22 Changes (pravins) 06:06:14 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40 06:06:17 <pravins> .bug 1209460 06:06:22 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1209460 Use langtable for console font information - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1209460 06:07:06 <pravins> as mfabian mentioned last time, this is add-on to our change proposal of New console font. 06:07:18 <pravins> unfortunately not much progress on bug yet. 06:07:32 <pravins> it is accepted as a Freeze exception. 06:07:48 <juhp> ah 06:08:07 <juhp> this is for anaconda right? 06:08:11 <pravins> yes 06:08:42 <pravins> Lohit2_Odia_Telugu Glibc_Unicode_7 Lohit2_Odia_Telugu and doing fine. 06:09:42 <paragan> dnf-langpacks change is also completed 06:09:44 <juhp> I think mfabian was going to look at trying to make a patch but probably late now to get it into anaconda 06:10:20 <pravins> its accepted FreezeException so might be possible. 06:10:40 <pravins> 2 weeks for final release. 06:11:55 <pravins> lets comment on bug and see if it can get any momentum :) 06:12:01 <mfabian> Should I try to make a patch? I didn’t yet look into this at all. 06:12:56 <pravins> mfabian: yeah, that will be nice. Since this is important issue and already accepted as FreezeException. 06:13:05 <mfabian> OK. 06:13:16 <pravins> #info #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins) 06:13:19 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 06:13:29 <juhp> mfabian, thanks 06:14:31 <pravins> mfabian: thanks :) 06:14:56 <pravins> Wanted to discuss this from last couple of weeks. 06:15:03 <pravins> I had communication with OSAS and FPL. 06:15:21 <pravins> First we need FPL approval and then OSAS can approve budget for FAD 06:15:32 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18n_2015 06:15:47 <pravins> FPL requested additional information for our old FAD page. 06:16:25 <pravins> i.e. Outcome, Impact and also how our FAD objective aligns with overall Fedora objective. 06:16:34 <juhp> good 06:17:13 <pravins> yeah, it make sense to see FAD activities are going in line with Fedora overall objectives. 06:17:22 <pravins> One more point 06:17:29 <pravins> if you see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18n_2015 06:17:40 <pravins> you can get hint of G11N FAD rather than I18N only. 06:18:12 <pravins> Can you all quickly go through it and see if anything missing there or wrong? 06:20:14 * pravins also going through page 06:20:37 * juhp read through 06:21:14 <juhp> I think we need to talk to l10n and zanata and see if anyone wants to come... 06:22:05 <pravins> juhp: good point. 06:22:13 <juhp> I feel like there could be more technical tasks we could discuss 06:22:56 <pravins> Agree !! 06:23:33 <pravins> We need input of all team to add more technical tasks. 06:25:29 <pravins> feel free to add more information to page :) specifically from task perspective. :) 06:26:40 <pravins> At presently tentative date for F23 release is 2015-10-27 06:26:52 <juhp> yeah good to list things people are actually wanting/planning to work on 06:27:12 <pravins> with couple of weeks sleep, we can expect it goes around 1st or 2nd week of Nov. 06:27:42 <pravins> s/sleep/slip 06:27:51 <pravins> juhp: right and once we have task listed, other interested people can join easily. 06:28:06 <pravins> presently task i have added are more from planning perspectives. 06:28:28 * pravins will drop an email on mailing list for inputs. 06:28:59 <pravins> #action pravins to drop an email on mailing list for FAD task inputs. 06:29:06 <juhp> thanks 06:29:15 <pravins> lets move ahead 06:29:16 <pravins> #info #48: Discussion on Badge design for i18n group contributors (pravins) 06:29:21 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/48 06:29:26 <pravins> Not progressed much 06:29:33 <pravins> This is again from last meeting. Basically need review on i18n badge design :) 06:29:37 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/raw-attachment/ticket/351/i18n_member 06:29:56 <pravins> i did not liked text, it can be better i think 06:30:08 <pravins> its already 3 weeks, good to give feedback quickly. 06:32:10 <pravins> #action on all to provide feedback on badge design. 06:32:56 <paragan> sure thanks 06:33:14 <pravins> last topic of the day :) 06:33:18 <pravins> #info #49: Internationalization talking points for Fedora 22 (pravins) 06:33:24 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/49 06:33:38 <pravins> I strongly feel, we miss this thing in each release. 06:33:50 <pravins> We have done good very good for Fedora 22 release. 06:34:49 <pravins> Good to see some blogs from i18n improvements :) 06:34:58 <pravins> s/from/for 06:35:21 <pravins> presently things are available on http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html#i18n 06:35:29 <pravins> and also on http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html#i18n 06:35:37 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 06:36:00 <pravins> May be we can gather points from here and create one single post mentioning all i18n improvements in Fedora 22 06:36:18 <pravins> How can we collaborate for same? 06:37:04 <paragan> maybe create a wiki page and let people add their points and finalize once all are done with their input. 06:37:19 <pravins> yes, this is good idea. 06:37:30 <pravins> We can try this post in Fedora Magazine. 06:38:16 <juhp> nice idea 06:39:02 <pravins> i think this post will be more highlight the impact of improvements from user side. 06:39:39 <pravins> lets set deadline for this? 06:40:25 <pravins> since release is happening on 26, we should have first draft ready by 20 for review. 06:40:57 <pravins> anyone interested in volunteering? :) 06:41:42 <pravins> i will prepare first draft 06:41:51 <pravins> #action pravins to prepare first draft for talking points. 06:43:17 <pravins> and here we comes to our last topic :) 06:43:19 <pravins> #topic Open Floor 06:43:38 <pravins> As we discussed in our FAD topic 06:43:44 <pravins> about G11N 06:44:24 <pravins> I am seeing other groups working on G11N are not that active. 06:44:45 <pravins> specifically l10n, fltg (language testing) and zanata 06:45:21 <pravins> i think it will be nice, if we can work together with these group for more broad objective of globalization. 06:45:51 <pravins> i have drafted one proposal for this line https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Globalization_Proposal 06:46:13 <pravins> planning to drop email to respective groups soon. 06:46:38 <pravins> if you have any suggestions for improvement do add that in proposal. 06:47:47 <pravins> if nothing more lets close meeting in couple of minutes. 06:49:11 <pravins> #endmeeting