06:00:08 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n 06:00:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 15 06:00:08 2015 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:08 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:00:12 <pravins> #meetingname i18n 06:00:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:13 <mfabian> Hi! 06:00:21 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call 06:00:25 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-04-15 06:00:37 <paragan> hi 06:00:40 <pravins> hi mfabian paragan :) 06:00:52 <fujiwarat> hi 06:00:58 <epico> hi 06:01:03 <pravins> hi epico fujiwarat :) 06:01:18 <pravins> lets see next topic while other joins 06:01:23 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:01:28 <pravins> #info 2015-04-21 Beta Release 06:01:29 <pravins> #info 2015-05-12 Final Freeze 06:01:29 <pravins> #info 2015-05-26 Fedora 22 Final Release 06:01:33 <tagoh_> hi 06:01:37 <juhp> hi 06:01:41 <pravins> hi tagoh_ juhp :) 06:02:15 <pravins> As you might know already Beta slipped by one week. 06:02:23 <pravins> At Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip Fedora 22 Beta release 06:02:33 <pravins> by one week due to unresolved blocker bugs https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/22/beta/buglist 06:02:37 <pravins> See for more details https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2015-April/125851.html 06:03:05 <pravins> hoping no further slip :) 06:03:13 <pravins> #topic Outstanding topic 06:03:13 <pravins> #info #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day (tagoh) 06:03:14 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/42 06:04:12 <pravins> As we discussed last time, still good to test and submit results on http://209.132.184.193/testdays/show_event?event_id=23 06:04:49 <pravins> i think we can move this to "task" now from "meeting", how do you think? 06:07:01 <tagoh_> pravins: sure. not sure when we should close though 06:07:30 <pravins> tagoh_: yeah, i was also thinking same. May be after final freeze? 06:07:31 <tagoh_> around GA maybe? 06:08:26 <pravins> yeah GA looks good, since even we can add important fixes into final freeze as well. 06:08:48 <pravins> #agreed to close testday ticket around GA. 06:09:13 <pravins> lets move to next topic. 06:09:19 <pravins> #topic New topics 06:09:19 <pravins> #info #40: Fedora 22 Changes (pravins) 06:09:19 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40 06:09:28 <pravins> Docs team working on including our change proposals in Fedora 22 Beta Release Notes. Since they are not very experts in I18n and language stuff we need to make sure everything is fine. 06:10:04 <pravins> i never noticed Doc text heading in bugzilla, its good for quick review. 06:10:16 <pravins> thanks paragan and mfabian for review. 06:10:28 <pravins> before meeting i done with Lohit2 and Minglish. 06:11:17 <pravins> Marko done with " New Default Console Font" 06:11:38 <pravins> from change proposals perspective 06:11:48 <pravins> .bug 1209460 06:11:51 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1209460 Use langtable for console font information - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1209460 06:12:02 <pravins> This blocks "blocks New Default Console Font" change proposal presently. 06:13:12 <pravins> "Anaconda is already using langtable for keyboards, locales, timezones, etc, so it might be a good idea to use langtable also for selecting the most appropriate console font." 06:14:26 <juhp> I thought it already did :) 06:15:20 <pravins> yeah, dunno why so late. Good to have it from langtables. 06:15:37 <juhp> mfabian, ^ 06:16:16 <juhp> or anaconda doesn't make use of it perhaps? 06:18:08 <pravins> yeah, looks like. Bug proposes to do that. 06:18:43 <juhp> hm I see 06:19:29 <pravins> dunno if it will break any backward compatibility. 06:19:55 <juhp> should be okay I guess 06:20:24 <pravins> that will be nice, since less time remaining :) 06:20:28 <pravins> lets move ahead 06:20:40 <pravins> Interesting topic 06:20:40 <juhp> yeah but dunno if it can be done in time for final 06:20:41 <pravins> #info #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins) 06:20:41 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 06:21:12 <pravins> juhp: exactly, but reported on 7th April, still no update on same. 06:21:17 <pravins> s/but/bug 06:21:18 <juhp> hm 06:23:37 <pravins> Updates on FAD 06:23:50 <pravins> I have updated page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_I18n_2015 06:23:57 <pravins> we now have Dates, Venue and new task list as well 06:24:04 <pravins> lets review here 06:24:49 <pravins> Date: 5-7th November, 2015 (Expecting F23 release on Mid Oct ) 06:25:41 <pravins> ohh, i have not reviewed if there is any Festival or other important things during that time 06:25:46 <pravins> please update if there is anything 06:27:11 <pravins> hmm, Diwali festival is around. 06:27:17 <pravins> 11-13th Nov. 06:27:19 <paragan> postpone by one week 06:27:24 <pravins> yeah 06:28:03 <pravins> paragan: i think good to postpone by couple of weeks. 06:28:30 <pravins> New Dates: 19-21 Nov 2015 06:29:05 <pravins> juhp: tagoh_ do we have any event on these dates in tokyo? 06:29:39 <tagoh_> pravins: guess not 06:29:49 <pravins> nice. 06:30:18 <pravins> We do have time, so we can still modify date by some weeks if major blocker. 06:30:37 <pravins> There is one more twist in FAD organization :) 06:30:53 <tagoh_> pravins: btw not 18-20 right? 06:31:45 <pravins> 18-20 is also fine. 06:32:02 <pravins> i saw normally trend to have one weekend date also included. 06:32:09 <pravins> like Thu, Fri and Sat 06:32:20 <tagoh_> aha 06:32:43 <pravins> may be this is done specifically if any community person interested to attend and have office during weekdays 06:33:33 <tagoh_> makes sense 06:33:44 <pravins> yeah, good to follow tradition :) 06:33:52 <pravins> so twist is 06:34:20 <pravins> Since we might require some budget from Red Hat as well. 06:34:37 <pravins> me and juhp talked with Yu Shao regarding idea of FAD 06:35:01 <pravins> He said how if you do it as Globalization FAD rather than Internationalization specific? 06:35:37 <pravins> basically including l10n and zanata. 06:35:53 <juhp> yeah it would make it a bigger event I guess 06:36:40 <pravins> yes 06:37:00 <juhp> of course it also means bigger budget perhaps... 06:37:19 <pravins> yeah, depends on how many people interested to attend, may be not more that 3-4? 06:37:26 <pravins> s/that/than 06:38:14 <paragan> yeah good to do that as G11N FAD 06:38:19 <pravins> dunno how to proceed now then? 06:38:34 <pravins> 1. discuss with l10n and zanata mailing list 06:38:51 <pravins> 2. update FAD name and todo if any more action items. 06:39:17 <pravins> i think good to discuss with active people on these list first before broadcasting. 06:39:21 <juhp> might be good to do an early headsup to FPL etc too? 06:39:50 <pravins> yes 06:39:56 <juhp> I feel more is good as long as we don't lose focus 06:40:20 <pravins> right, i have not said even single word with FLP for FAD yet. 06:40:28 <pravins> good to mention him 06:40:39 <pravins> #action pravins will drop an email to FPL regarding FAD planning. 06:41:14 <pravins> #agreed good to include l10n and zanata and make this as a globalization FAD. 06:41:34 <pravins> i think more on this topic? 06:42:04 <pravins> if not lets move ahead 06:42:10 <pravins> #info #45: Docs beat for Fedora 22 (pravins) 06:42:10 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/45 06:42:20 <pravins> thank you paragan and fujiwarat for updating docs beat :) 06:42:29 <pravins> i also did some edits early this week 06:43:02 <pravins> ueno: i have added gnome-characters also in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 06:43:03 <paragan> pravins, yw 06:43:23 <pravins> dunno i was thinking good to add post in FedoraMagazine regarding it. 06:43:41 <pravins> might be i will need some input from you for it :) 06:44:27 <pravins> tagoh_: do we add new upstream release included in Fedora also in docs beat? 06:45:23 <pravins> i see fontconfig, imsettings, caribou, libunistring and ibus-table have new releases in Fedora 22. 06:45:52 <tagoh_> pravins: no, not needed. that should be covered by technical notes 06:46:09 <pravins> tagoh_: nice :) 06:46:27 <juhp> docsbeat looks good to me 06:46:55 <pravins> myside too 06:48:06 <pravins> tagoh_: i think we can proceed with it now. 06:48:17 <pravins> do we need to inform anyone? 06:50:16 <pravins> lets proceed 06:50:36 <pravins> please check https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat and update if anything missing 06:50:48 <pravins> #action https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat and update if anything missing. 06:51:00 <pravins> #agreed good to proceed with present docs beat version 06:51:14 <pravins> #topic Open Floor 06:51:29 <pravins> Do we have any topic for open floor? 06:52:10 <tagoh_> pravins: hmm, looking at the status at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats, i18n beats seems converted to publican already. 06:52:20 <pravins> ohh 06:52:39 <tagoh_> pravins: dunno when it was done, we may need to open a bug on bz to apply changes in worst case. 06:52:52 <tagoh_> if there are any 06:53:23 <pravins> i have updated it in last two days, so sure it have missed 06:53:37 <pravins> i will report bug for it. 06:53:39 <tagoh_> the status on i18n beats says still open. that sounds weird to me though 06:54:09 <tagoh_> usually that should be changed as well 06:54:22 <pravins> right 06:55:04 <pravins> while going through there schedule https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-22/f-22-docs-tasks.html 06:55:07 <pravins> looks we missed it. 06:55:36 <pravins> "Reminder to Development: Wiki Freeze in 7 days Mon 2015-04-20" 06:56:37 <pravins> not clear yet :( 06:56:57 <pravins> we should talk with some documentation team member or even good to report bug. 06:57:27 <pravins> #action talk with documentation team member of report bug regarding i18n beat status. 06:58:06 <tagoh_> maybe open a bug should works. it is the usual prorcess after closing wiki. 06:58:38 <pravins> tagoh_: yeah, i remember i did it twice :) 06:59:01 <pravins> though not good, should try to sync with docs schedule. 06:59:11 <pravins> we are near to meeting end time. If nothing else we will close meeting i 2 minutes. 07:00:17 <pravins> Thank you all for nice meeting :) 07:00:18 <pravins> #endmeeting