06:00:10 <pravins> #startmeeting i18n 06:00:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 1 06:00:10 2015 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 06:00:10 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 06:00:13 <mfabian> Hi! 06:00:14 <pravins> #meetingname i18n 06:00:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 06:00:20 <fujiwarat> hi 06:00:23 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call 06:00:40 <pravins> hi mfabian fujiwarat :) 06:00:51 <pravins> who else available today for meeting? 06:00:53 <paragan> hi 06:00:57 <lijli> hi 06:01:23 <pravins> mfabian: good to see you back :) 06:01:28 <pravins> paragan: lijli hi :) 06:01:32 <epico> hi 06:01:35 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-04-01 06:02:09 <pravins> hi epico :) 06:02:12 <pravins> let go to first topic till other joins 06:02:22 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule 06:02:25 <pravins> #info 2015-04-14 Beta Release 06:02:26 <pravins> #info 2015-05-05 Final Freeze 06:02:26 <pravins> #info 2015-05-19 Fedora 22 Final Release 06:03:03 <pravins> Beta freeze was yesterday. 06:03:18 <pravins> but paragan mentioned me about fesco ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1426 06:03:31 <pravins> it says Freeze is at Monday midnight. 06:03:37 <pravins> not understood clearly though. 06:04:12 <tagoh_> hi 06:04:58 <pravins> hi tagoh_ :) 06:05:54 <pravins> #topic Outstanding tasks 06:06:15 <pravins> #info #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day (tagoh) 06:06:30 <pravins> thank you tagoh_ for preparing summary. 06:07:51 <pravins> tagoh_: do we need to wait for some more time for test day summary? 06:07:56 <juhp> hi! 06:08:00 <tagoh_> the result so far is somewhat better than the previous one though, I hope to see more attendees on i18n test day 06:08:27 <pravins> hi juhp :) 06:08:35 <pravins> agree. 06:08:53 <pravins> we indeed had a good test day !! 06:09:11 <pravins> specifically we got some contribution from community users. 06:09:16 <tagoh_> at least we should avoid missing languages compared to the previous 06:09:36 <pravins> right :) 06:09:38 <juhp> cool 06:09:38 <pravins> let me put some numbers here. 06:09:42 <pravins> Totel 10 number of people participated. Not all person completed all the test cases. 06:09:52 <pravins> I think this can be more, since some of our team members yet to submit results. 06:10:09 <pravins> I have awarded badges to all participants https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i18n-test-day-participant 06:10:15 <pravins> Please let me know if we missed anyone. 06:10:28 <pravins> Totel bugs reported 6. 06:10:35 <pravins> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1203537 Not fixed yet. 06:10:49 <pravins> anish looks away today. 06:11:11 * juhp is confused about https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1426 - which week are they discussing? sounds like this week?? 06:11:27 <paragan> any freeze scheduled week 06:11:48 <pravins> last Monday i guess. 06:11:54 <juhp> okay 06:11:55 <tagoh_> even duplicates, double-check would be nice so I'd encourage people here who don't yet finish or update the result, to try when one has a time. 06:12:34 * juhp really wants one of those badges 8-) 06:12:52 <pravins> Windows is still open ;) 06:12:58 <juhp> :) 06:13:35 <pravins> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1203575 patch provided by fujiwarat, hoping upstream will pull it soon. 06:13:48 <pravins> .bug 1204029 06:13:51 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1204029 Crashing in F22 Alpha with updates - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1204029 06:14:16 <pravins> This is also fixed now. 06:14:23 <pravins> .bug 1204029 06:14:26 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1204029 Crashing in F22 Alpha with updates - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1204029 06:14:43 <pravins> same bug again ;) my bad. 06:14:50 <pravins> .bug 1203996 06:14:53 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1203996 [mr_IN, hi_IN] Text alignment looks incorrect at some places (few Anaconda screens, oowriter) - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1203996 06:15:02 <pravins> This is also fixed. 06:15:06 <pravins> .bug 1202247 06:15:09 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1202247 firefox 36 broke langpack detection for new profiles - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1202247 06:15:23 <pravins> fixed. !! 06:15:26 <pravins> .bug 1203571 06:15:29 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1203571 should show "No Langpacks installed" when no langpacks are installed - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1203571 06:15:37 <pravins> fixed. 06:17:01 <pravins> as suggested by tagoh_, still good to test and provide results. I also have to compete some test cases will do soon :) 06:17:06 <pravins> let move to next topic. 06:17:12 <pravins> #topic New topics 06:17:16 <pravins> #info #40: Fedora 22 planning (pravins) 06:17:19 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40 06:17:35 <pravins> All tracker bugs should be on QA state now. 06:17:53 <pravins> .bug 1182479 06:17:56 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1182479 New Default Console Font - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1182479 06:18:02 <pravins> mfabian: can we move this to on QA? 06:18:08 <mfabian> Just did it. 06:18:34 <mfabian> I am wondering about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1202875 though ... 06:19:05 <pravins> mfabian: its RHEL7 bugs :) 06:19:25 <pravins> out of scope ;) 06:19:36 <pravins> thanks mfabian for moving to QA :) 06:19:37 <mfabian> Yes, but the console font thing reminded me that a rebase to a newer langtable would also require the new console font. 06:20:33 <pravins> ohh, dependencies. May be can open depends on bug. 06:21:02 <juhp> ah 06:21:19 <juhp> mfabian, okay let's discuss that later 06:21:56 <pravins> lets move to next ticket. 06:21:59 <pravins> #info #43: I18n FAD in 2015 (pravins) 06:22:03 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 06:22:42 <pravins> again we have to finalize venue. 06:22:55 <pravins> #action send email to OSAS regarding process. 06:23:26 <pravins> rather than keeping it moving for long 06:23:46 <pravins> we discussed regarding Tokyo as a venue. 06:23:49 <pravins> any objection for it? 06:24:44 <pravins> tagoh_: can we get facility from Red Hat tokyo office for meeting? may be meeting room for 10-15 participants. 06:25:12 <pravins> off course not planning very soon but may be sept to nov time. as per our members availability. 06:25:55 <tagoh_> pravins: I can ask when the date is fixed... 06:26:24 <pravins> sure. 06:26:44 * pravins have to work on propose again as per date selection. 06:27:06 <pravins> s/propose/purpose 06:27:28 <tagoh_> better to decide it earlier otherwise it may be hard to book the meeting room. 06:27:52 <pravins> yes, i will talk with OSAS this or next week. 06:28:02 <pravins> but what can be best time for meeting 06:28:06 <pravins> 1. Fedora cycle. 06:28:18 <pravins> 2. weather At Tokyo 06:29:07 <pravins> just after Fedora release is good time i think. specifically from planning consideration. 06:29:27 <pravins> or may be after Final Freeze? 06:31:06 <pravins> i think lets final some date and see if any blocker to that date. 06:31:13 <pravins> will do before next meeting. 06:31:15 <pravins> meanwhile lets move to next ticket :) 06:31:20 <juhp> I feel after release maybe better - though of course may need to take final slip into account 06:31:36 <pravins> juhp: release or final freeze? 06:32:04 <juhp> I vote for > release 06:32:06 <pravins> we can host release party as well :) not done together anytime. 06:32:12 <juhp> true 06:32:25 <pravins> me too with release :) 06:32:44 <pravins> #info #47: Workflow improvement (tagoh) 06:32:45 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/47 06:32:51 <juhp> maybe a couple of weeks after release? 06:33:00 <tagoh_> SGTM 06:33:17 <pravins> yes 06:33:28 <pravins> tagoh_: tried workflow improvement suggestions for todays meeting :) 06:33:50 <pravins> basically moved all ticket to "meeting" status and only those included. 06:34:13 <pravins> should we modify script to pick-up only those tickets whose state is "meeting" 06:34:42 <tagoh_> pravins: was about to update the document on wiki for that though, it was mentioned :) dunno if we need detailed workflow for that. I could update if needed. 06:35:43 <pravins> i think not required in great details, but like just mentioning ticket should be in "meeting" status will be good. 06:35:52 <pravins> should we modify create-meeting-boilerplate.rb for it? 06:36:49 <tagoh_> perhaps. it could be intentionally skipped though 06:37:02 <tagoh_> on the meeting 06:37:13 <tagoh_> I don't mind either 06:37:48 <pravins> hmm, let it be :) may be after creating agenda one can check for respective ticket and update accordingly. 06:37:58 <tagoh_> it can be used for reminding people who is responsible for tasks 06:39:09 <pravins> right 06:39:28 <pravins> may be we can close the ticket after creating wiki page. 06:39:43 <pravins> lets move ahead. 06:39:43 <pravins> #topic New task 06:39:50 <pravins> #info #45: Docs beat for Fedora 22 (pravins) 06:39:56 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/45 06:40:48 <pravins> what is deadline for this? 06:41:23 <pravins> tagoh_ has already create page for inputs https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 06:41:33 <pravins> requesting all to add respective changes to it. 06:42:03 <pravins> i think we can specifically add IBus related changes, since those are not proposed as a Change as well. 06:43:02 <tagoh_> pravins: well, assuming no changes in the schedule, wiki freeze for beta rel notes was 23th March... looking at the list, no announce for that. so no idea 06:43:55 <pravins> ohh, its 1st april already. We should be quick now. 06:43:59 <pravins> can we set deadline for us? 06:44:24 <pravins> may be next week 8th Wed? same meeting time 06:44:41 <pravins> we will discuss on #fedora-i18n is anything missing or need attention. 06:45:25 <pravins> #action To all. Complete https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat soon. Mostly before 8th April. 06:46:09 <juhp> anything needs to be mentioned on input methods? 06:46:42 <juhp> epico, ibus-libzhuyin was in f21 GA? 06:46:48 <tagoh_> guess not too much since we didn't need to modify the test cases for test day... 06:46:56 <juhp> ok 06:47:12 <pravins> fujiwarat: might be https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/40#comment:2 ? 06:47:28 <epico> juhp, yes, ibus-libzhuyin is in f21. 06:47:59 <pravins> F21 docs available At http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/21/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html#i18n 06:49:08 <fujiwarat> Ah, 3 items are done for f22. and ibus panel for KDE5 while none test it. 06:49:28 <pravins> may be we can add those to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat 06:50:31 <pravins> i am sure everyone of us should have something to add in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat :) 06:50:44 <pravins> lets do it this week. will check status next wed. 8th april. 06:51:04 <pravins> if nothing else lets move to our last topic. 06:51:11 <pravins> #topic Open Floor 06:52:00 <pravins> .bug 1203537 06:52:03 <zodbot> pravins: Bug 1203537 gnome-software unable to find pyhunspell and hunspell packages - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1203537 06:52:12 <pravins> this is only pending bug from our test day reported issues. 06:52:20 <pravins> is this because of Metainfo? 06:52:42 <pravins> any other bugs or topic to discuss 06:52:46 <tagoh_> likely 06:53:59 <pravins> thank you :) will ping to anish for fixing it soon. 06:54:27 <paragan> pravins, I don't think its because of metainfo 06:54:35 <paragan> its packagekit issue I guess 06:55:35 <pravins> hmm, sure lets discuss on bugzilla and try to fix it soon 06:57:46 <pravins> if nothing else lets close meeting in couple of minutes. 06:59:45 <pravins> we are exact in time today :) 06:59:49 <pravins> #endmeeting