env-and-stacks
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#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2015-01-14)

Meeting started by hhorak at 12:01:10 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. hello-ing (hhorak, 12:01:44)
  2. Fedora Rings (hhorak, 12:03:21)
    1. http://mattdm.org/fedora/next/#15 (hhorak, 12:05:39)
    2. http://mattdm.org/fedora/next/#20 (hhorak, 12:05:40)
    3. there is no clear sense of the details of each ring.. e.g. definition, type of things in the ring, loose guidelines, users' expectations, motivation to use the rings (hhorak, 12:18:13)
    4. IDEA: ring2 may be split into ring 2 and ring 3 - the new ring 2 should contain only system high-level stacks (we'll always need system versions of e.g. interpreted langauges) and ring 3 should contain copr/playground and possibly also upstream-type of repos (hhorak, 12:18:17)
    5. ring 0 is a minimal bootable system - basically the domain of the Base WG (hhorak, 12:33:37)
    6. IDEA: question is what can be moved out of ring 1 to ring 2? (hhorak, 12:40:13)
    7. IDEA: the "promotion" idea.. as in ... the lower the number of ring the higher quality of the package and the more it must be maintained (hhorak, 12:40:13)
    8. IDEA: definition of ring 1 is a minimal set of packages that give you a functional system, with some sort of approval (hhorak, 13:31:21)
    9. IDEA: ring 1 should be self-hosted -- because you want to build very solid important packages using very solid important packages (hhorak, 13:31:21)
    10. IDEA: WG-wkstn may want to package httpd differently than WG-server -- that could be solved on configuration - level like httpd-dev and httpd-prod (hhorak, 13:31:21)
    11. IDEA: then ring 2 includes clean/good pkgs of other stuff; ring 3 good pkgs but not complete; ring 4 any old stuff (hhorak, 13:32:31)
    12. IDEA: topic for ML or some of the next meetings: setting some technical expectations about how to differ ring 0, 1, 2.. (hhorak, 13:40:44)
    13. IDEA: topic for ML or some of the next meetings: look more closely on users' wok-flow -- say he wants to develop or use some app from ring X -- what it actually means in practice.. (hhorak, 13:40:44)


Meeting ended at 13:45:30 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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  2. bkabrda (64)
  3. langdon (50)
  4. hhorak (45)
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