14:01:44 <randomuser> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
14:01:44 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Dec 22 14:01:44 2014 UTC.  The chair is randomuser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:01:44 <randomuser> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:01:44 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:01:44 <randomuser> #topic Roll Call
14:02:35 * sclark is here but might have to leave early
14:03:49 <randomuser> hi sclark
14:04:04 <sclark> hello randomuser
14:04:48 <randomuser> looks like we might have a short meeting today
14:05:05 <sclark> looks that way
14:05:34 <randomuser> #chair sclark
14:05:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: randomuser sclark
14:05:49 <randomuser> #topic Follow up on last week's action items
14:06:08 <randomuser> there was one declared, and I didn't do it. So now I will.
14:06:31 <randomuser> #action randomuser to ask for working group liaisons on the list
14:06:52 <randomuser> #topic Publican/Publishing
14:07:13 <randomuser> I had sort of a realization about this recently
14:07:29 <randomuser> It may not be sane to continue expecting a pure RPM-deployed site
14:08:05 <randomuser> so I started looking at this, ahem, as it is, and not as I want it to be
14:08:36 <randomuser> the fedwatch script that pulls in packages needed minor adjustments
14:09:33 <randomuser> and, it appears that untagging a package from koji doesn't work like we thought it did, so that bears investigation
14:10:39 <randomuser> it should be untag -> remove and I spent a frustrating few hours finding that the package was still present before I realized that it was getting added right back at the end of the mash compose
14:11:12 <randomuser> so, we need a smarter script for adding packages from the koji repo
14:11:40 <randomuser> and, what things don't come from RPMs now, should just come from ansible already
14:12:13 <randomuser> Questions?
14:12:58 <sclark> randomuser: I have to admit that I'm a little out of my depth on this topic.  Is it something that the infrastructure folks can help with?
14:13:21 <randomuser> sclark, the koji thing, yes, they can probably help
14:13:43 <randomuser> the publican specific stuff, I think only jfearn really knows how to do it :P
14:14:23 <sclark> randomuser: is publican unique to the Fedora / Red Hat community?
14:15:20 <randomuser> sclark, I've observed it somewhat widely used in open source projects, but somewhat rarely as the website frontent
14:15:26 <randomuser> s/t$/d/
14:15:35 * randomuser lunges for the coffeepot
14:15:59 <randomuser> the traffic on publican's mailing list does suggest non-RH use
14:16:43 <sclark> randomuser: I was wondering about other projects experience of website use
14:17:09 <randomuser> sclark, I also wonder about that
14:18:40 <randomuser> #info plan is to provide with ansible what RPMs do not, and just get on with it
14:19:00 <randomuser> #topic New Writers
14:19:10 * randomuser went out of order, oops
14:19:55 <randomuser> have any new writers joined us, or not new people with general questions, or seasoned people with reports from their mentoring adventures?
14:20:23 * zoglesby is late
14:21:14 <randomuser> morning, zoglesby
14:21:45 <sclark> hello, zoglesby
14:22:58 <randomuser> #topic fedora.next product updates
14:23:30 <randomuser> #info volunteers needed to cover the deliverable-oriented working groups
14:23:43 <randomuser> zoglesby, do you still want to cover Server?
14:24:38 <randomuser> eh, I don't have to put you on the spot. Mostly just wanted to get the #info into the meeting logs
14:24:57 <randomuser> #topic Zanata Migration
14:25:26 <zoglesby> randomuser: sure
14:25:41 <randomuser> as noted on our mailing list today, the migration to Zanata will begin in early january
14:25:52 <randomuser> zoglesby, +10
14:25:59 <zoglesby> brb
14:26:44 <randomuser> Unfortunately, they can't allow maintainers as an FAS group, per se
14:27:22 <randomuser> so I need to reply to that mail about who the maintainers are so pkovar doesn't end up getting badgered with everyone's requests, or worse, being the only one that can push strings
14:28:27 <randomuser> I think I will ask that a handful of active folks be added to all guides, so that requests for maintainership can more easily be filled
14:29:01 <randomuser> also, the documentation guide needs to be updated with the zanata workflow
14:29:39 <randomuser> #help help needed updating the Documentation Guide for Zanata workflow
14:30:09 <randomuser> #help help needed updating docs l10n related wiki content
14:30:22 <randomuser> (it isn't *really* #halp right?)
14:31:23 <sclark> :-)
14:32:05 <randomuser> #info Zanata team would like people available in #fedora-docs for questions week of Jan 5
14:32:10 <randomuser> #topic Guide Status
14:32:24 <randomuser> we haz guides
14:33:33 <randomuser> Anyone want to share their progress, plans, or needs for a specific one?
14:33:52 <randomuser> #info randomuser would like help reviewing and completing the multiboot guide
14:34:30 <sclark> randomuser: I made a very small start on the firewall guide by bringing in the firewalld text from the security guide.
14:34:47 <randomuser> progress!
14:35:41 <randomuser> sclark, what's the next step?
14:35:43 <zoglesby> back
14:37:01 <sclark> randomuser: next step is to reorganise the text to a better order for a standalone guide and then add fedora.next firewall stuff
14:37:14 <randomuser> cool
14:37:53 * sclark has to leave now
14:38:17 <sclark> Christmas greetings to all
14:38:38 <randomuser> zoglesby, I facepalmed reading the last comment on that powershell bug.
14:38:53 <zoglesby> randomuser: yep
14:38:53 <randomuser> bye, sclark, happy holidays
14:39:18 <randomuser> so I'll probably go back and change it again
14:39:30 <zoglesby> randomuser: indeed
14:39:40 <zoglesby> or someone will report it again
14:40:38 <randomuser> and crap, I was going to update the pxe section as well
14:42:12 <randomuser> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
14:42:21 <randomuser> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:43:10 <randomuser> any bugs of particular concern?
14:45:13 <randomuser> Yeah, I think we just need to keep on them in general
14:45:20 <randomuser> #topic Open Floor Discussion
14:46:39 <zoglesby> I have no other topics
14:47:49 <randomuser> nor do I
14:48:13 <randomuser> #endmeeting