06:02:01 <tagoh_> #startmeeting i18n
06:02:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 19 06:02:01 2014 UTC.  The chair is tagoh_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:02:01 <tagoh_> #meetingname i18n
06:02:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
06:02:01 <tagoh_> #topic agenda and roll call
06:02:02 <tagoh_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2014-03-19
06:02:26 <paragan> hi
06:02:27 <tagoh_> hi guys, shall we have i18n meeting now?
06:02:33 <epico> hi
06:03:56 <dueno> hi
06:06:01 <juhp> hi
06:06:58 <tagoh_> alright, let's get started then.
06:06:59 <fujiwarat> hi
06:07:14 <tagoh_> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:07:14 <tagoh_> #info 2014-04-08         Change Proposals Submission Deadline
06:07:15 <tagoh_> #info no earlier than 2014-07-08        Changes Freeze--Planning & Development Ends
06:07:15 <tagoh_> #info no earlier than 2014-07-08        Branch Fedora 21 from Rawhide
06:07:15 <tagoh_> #info no earlier than 2014-07-22        Software String Freeze
06:07:19 <tagoh_> #info no earlier than 2014-08-05        Alpha Release
06:07:27 <tagoh_> we can see some updates on the schedule.
06:08:13 <anish__> Hi!
06:08:25 <tagoh_> if we have something to propose Changes, please submit them by 8th April.
06:08:32 <juhp> oh
06:08:56 <juhp> yes
06:10:58 <tagoh_> #topic Outstanding topics
06:10:59 <tagoh_> #info #25: Bugs Corner (i18n@lists.fedoraproject.org)
06:10:59 <tagoh_> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/25
06:11:08 <tagoh_> any bugs we want to discuss/share today?
06:15:46 <tagoh_> no?
06:17:52 <juhp> what do people think?  maybe we should close the ticket and do something new?
06:18:32 <juhp> well we sometimes had some useful discussions around bugs though other times not so much
06:20:01 <tagoh_> initially we had a plan to discuss about pre-reported bugs on the ticket before the meeting. maybe better just stop asking and skip if no bugs added to the ticket
06:20:16 <juhp> is ibus-table-cangjie orphaned?
06:20:26 <juhp> tagoh_, yes that works
06:20:42 <tagoh_> or encourage people to open a separate ticket to discuss about.
06:20:56 <juhp> juhp, yes
06:21:09 <juhp> tagoh_, right that might be better
06:21:41 <juhp> I think we need people to be more proactive in driving the meeting
06:21:55 <tagoh_> yeah
06:24:27 <tagoh_> otherwise it ends up we rarely have a meeting
06:24:50 <tagoh_> because of no topics to discuss
06:25:59 <juhp> tagoh_, true but maybe that is also okay
06:26:22 <tagoh_> unless we are missing any important thing, yes
06:26:41 <juhp> though I feel good to have regular Fedora meeting at least every other week to keep Fedora on track
06:26:41 <anish__> yeah
06:27:42 <juhp> or so
06:28:22 <paragan> juhp, nod
06:28:34 <anish__> we can also discuss new upcoming/proposed features of Fedora (though they are not directly related to i18n)
06:29:16 <tagoh_> anish__: well, the basic discussion is open at the list. if you have any comments, better doing there.
06:30:29 <anish__> tagoh_, okay thanks!
06:33:05 <tagoh_> so which apporach do you guys prefer then?
06:33:43 <juhp> I propose as tagoh_ suggested we close bug #25 and people open new tickets for bugs/issues they want to discuss
06:34:27 <tagoh_> anyone else?
06:34:54 * juhp moved a couple of ibus-table-cangjie bugs to ibus-table-chinese and suggested they try ibus-cangjie too
06:35:26 <tagoh_> cool thanks
06:35:58 <juhp> though conversely I hoped this meeting would be a focal point for i18n discussions and help to focus on i18n bugs and issues that need attention
06:36:19 <juhp> but the meeting is really what we make it :)
06:38:29 <tagoh_> indeed. only updating/notifying the schedule-wise could be done by the mail even if we don't have a meeting or you could check it out at the wiki when you want to see.
06:38:54 <juhp> yea
06:41:36 <tagoh_> okay, if no other idea or no objections, let's close the ticket and open a new one as needed.
06:42:12 <fujiwarat> agreed
06:44:16 <tagoh_> alright, move on then.
06:44:21 <tagoh_> #topic Open Floor
06:44:32 <tagoh_> anything else we want to discuss before stop the meeting?
06:44:46 <juhp> btw any more Change proposal plans?
06:45:48 <juhp> just under 3 weeks to deadline I guess - not sure if Fesco still accepting new system wide changes?
06:46:48 <tagoh_> dunno
06:52:56 <tagoh_> maybe not in f21 for me but in f22 perhaps.
06:53:33 <tagoh_> anything else? if not, let's stop the meeting shortly
06:56:34 <tagoh_> alright. stop here then.
06:56:40 <tagoh_> thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:56:45 <tagoh_> #endmeeting