#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting

Meeting summary

1. Roll call (adamw, 16:02:55)
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:05:55)
   1. "adamw to post a summary of our position on EOL to the FESCo ticket" - I did that, see https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198#comment:42 (adamw, 16:06:44)
   2. "adamw to post a mail to test@ highlighting things we can be working on during the 'quiet time'" - did that too, see https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-January/120167.html , thanks to viking for adding another suggestion (adamw, 16:07:57)
   3. Viking-Ice and roshi have started working on the QA community role which merges bugtriaging and testing process QA community member (adamw, 16:09:41)
   
   
3. SELinux update discussion (adamw, 16:13:30)
   1. brunowolff notes 'make selinux updates spend longer in testing' is a commonly suggested short term approach (adamw, 16:22:34)
   2. cmurf suggests per-package defaults for update release criteria (adamw, 16:22:44)
   3. kparal suggests re-evaluating autopush and a minimum updates-testing time for certain updates (adamw, 16:23:13)
   4. pingou suggests disallowing push to stable until update has made it to -testing (adamw, 16:25:18)
   5. AGREED: while there are various little tweaks that could be considered to the update policy and process as a 'response' to this, we don't think any of them obviously solves the problem without causing other problems, and we trust the selinux maintainers to configure their updates more conservatively in future (adamw, 16:40:31)
   
   
4. Unmaintained package discussion (adamw, 16:40:40)
   1. ACTION: viking-ice to look at a possible process for flagging bitrotten packages as part of the larger triage process proposal (adamw, 16:59:59)
   
   
5. open floor (adamw, 17:01:08)

Action items

1. viking-ice to look at a possible process for flagging bitrotten packages as part of the larger triage process proposal

People present (lines said)

1. adamw (79)
2. Viking-Ice (50)
3. cmurf (48)
4. nirik (25)
5. kparal (16)
6. brunowolff (14)
7. pingou (7)
8. misc (5)
9. roshi (5)
10. zodbot (4)
11. garretraziel (2)
12. tflink (2)
13. pschindl (2)
14. mkrizek (1)
15. haraldh (1)
16. pwhalen (1)