02:02:00 <masta> #startmeeting FAmNA
02:02:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 15 02:02:00 2014 UTC.  The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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02:02:00 <masta> #meetingname FAmNA
02:02:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna'
02:02:00 <masta> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
02:02:00 <masta> Welcome to the Fedora North America Ambassador’s weekly IRC meeting
02:02:17 <masta> howdy
02:02:25 <award3535> waves at everyone
02:02:33 <wrnash1> small group tonight
02:03:24 <nb> hello
02:03:24 <masta> a few folks might be late
02:03:26 <nb> .hellomynameis nb
02:03:28 <nb> hmm, zodbot is slow
02:03:30 * inode0 is here now
02:03:30 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nick@bebout.net>
02:03:30 <nb> .hellomynameis should output my name and stuff
02:03:33 <zodbot> nb: Sorry, but you don't exist
02:03:48 <inode0> happy to see masta getting things rolling though
02:03:52 <nb> oh, now it works
02:04:05 <masta> lol
02:04:21 <award3535> lets roll
02:04:36 <masta> #chair inode0 nb wrnash1 award3535
02:04:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 inode0 masta nb wrnash1
02:05:03 <masta> #chair kk4ewt
02:05:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 inode0 kk4ewt masta nb wrnash1
02:05:37 <masta> #topic === Announcements ===
02:05:53 <masta> Elections opened and closed
02:06:10 <award3535> results yet
02:06:33 <inode0> for the board pretty much but otherwise we usually vote before results :)
02:06:50 <award3535> lol
02:07:21 <masta> for famsco there are three spots, and four nominations... so we have to vote and stuff
02:09:32 <award3535> any other announcements?
02:09:39 <masta> #topic === Tickets ===
02:09:40 <masta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
02:09:41 <masta> ktrguhheelceknthcnbnuhhfvelu
02:10:00 <award3535> ???
02:10:05 <masta> whoops... that was an OTP spewage
02:10:12 <award3535> LMAO
02:10:21 <award3535> been there done that
02:10:27 <wrnash1> it seems to be very slow tonight
02:10:30 <masta> .famnaticket 68
02:10:31 <masta> #topic Ticket #68 - FAmNA Meeting Organization
02:10:32 <zodbot> masta: #68 (FAmNA Meeting Organization) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/68
02:11:00 <masta> this one is fun... a ticket about boring tickets, and running our meetings better
02:12:05 <masta> I guess after we read that ticket, we can move on... and perhaps have a topic of some productive things
02:12:05 <award3535> interesting ticket
02:13:00 <masta> ok so...
02:13:03 <masta> moving on
02:13:28 <award3535> during the slow periods where we dont have a lot of tickets reducing the frequency is a good idea
02:13:35 <masta> #topic === New swag ideas ===
02:14:22 <masta> so we are in bad need of a resupply of stuff
02:14:42 <award3535> is it me or is the system slow tonight
02:14:58 <masta> ink pens, button pins, I hear somebody has stickers so we are good there, but out of case badges
02:15:25 <inode0> The only thing I've heard is in good supply are the laptop stickers.
02:15:43 <award3535> what about phone stands, saw them at LINUXCON HP had them with their logo on it.
02:16:08 <award3535> key chains?
02:16:30 <inode0> you know, we have done this half a dozen times before
02:16:47 <inode0> making lists of things is a waste of time unless someone follows through
02:17:02 <masta> agreed
02:17:06 <award3535> I agree
02:17:39 <wrnash1> what about Umbrellas
02:17:59 <masta> I feel kinda powerless here. We lack the agility or initiative to get things done.
02:18:00 <award3535> I would take some things but in my area I am limited to vendor availability that is almost non existent
02:18:41 <award3535> although Jacksonville Fl is only 30 minutes from here, but I can take on some things
02:18:41 <inode0> you have as much access to the internet as we do so I can't understand how you are more hampered than anyone else
02:19:38 <inode0> Here is the way to make swag happen.
02:19:50 <inode0> 1 - get something specific to show us
02:19:52 <award3535> I agree, but what do I need to get things rolling, who holds the mone
02:20:02 <masta> so I'd +1 just any swag idea right now, but I'm inexperienced on the parts of actually placing orders and making things happen.
02:20:17 <inode0> rather than how about key chains so us a keychain and tell us what your design thoughts are
02:20:18 <award3535> I agree with masta
02:20:23 <inode0> have a quote
02:20:33 <wrnash1> I agree with Masta
02:20:45 <wrnash1> Maybe we need a quick class
02:20:55 <inode0> if FAmNA approves it go forward and when the order is ready ask someone to call/login and pay it
02:21:31 <masta> ok. That seems easy enough
02:22:00 <inode0> going back to the previous ticket I offered once before to make a swag purchase at a FAmNA meeting, no one showed up
02:22:01 <award3535> inode0 have have experiance dealing with government ordering and the process. I can get things rolling
02:22:17 <masta> and to some extent I'd be fine floating a line of credit to the project if my own funds have to be used to just get it going... but with in reason
02:23:02 <masta> inode0: probably bad timing that one time you mention
02:23:04 <inode0> I'm willing to try it again if you want
02:23:41 <masta> inode0: my apologies (speaking for myself)... for not evidently not being at that meeting. =(
02:23:58 <inode0> outside of swag it is near year end and any other supplies we might want for events should be considered too
02:24:07 <masta> yep
02:24:19 <kk4ewt> media arrived today
02:24:37 <masta> I'm looking to make a spread sheet of our swag inventory
02:25:26 <kk4ewt> masta if you want to count it i will gladly send it to you
02:26:06 <award3535> I have very little left over from the past events not even worth counting
02:27:06 <masta> kk4ewt: lol... maybe some inaccuracies are fine... just approximations even.
02:27:21 <inode0> t-shirts 0
02:27:25 <inode0> case badges 0
02:27:28 <inode0> pens 0
02:27:32 <inode0> :)
02:27:40 <award3535> LOL
02:27:42 <kk4ewt> masta 10 pencils 1K voice stickers
02:28:20 <inode0> we are scraping the bottom of the leftover drawer I think
02:28:21 <masta> voice stickers?
02:28:32 <inode0> those are the laptop stickers
02:28:36 <kk4ewt> and whatever media that just recieived
02:30:01 <award3535> wow is this slow
02:30:27 <masta> depressingly low
02:31:21 <masta> ink pens, and t-shirts seem like the priority, though I'd not mind some of the new stuff inode0 has mentioned in the recent past
02:31:29 <inode0> we basically have about 4 weeks to load up
02:31:53 <award3535> ok, I will put together some proposals for next week
02:32:25 <kk4ewt> and Vbanners which i will get quotes this week
02:34:59 <masta> would it be helpful if we reached out to Ruth?
02:35:08 <inode0> for what?
02:35:18 <masta> who is in Australia I hear
02:35:34 <masta> I dunno... help with the financing of these ventures
02:35:48 <inode0> anything over $1k she will need to finance
02:35:58 <masta> we got a few of those
02:36:05 <masta> t-shirts I'm guessing
02:36:19 <inode0> anything in that area we won't get this fiscal year I am afraid
02:36:38 <inode0> they can't get the vendor into the system in less than 6 months in my experience
02:36:44 <inode0> so let's just stay under $1k
02:36:53 <inode0> and do what we can do
02:37:44 <masta> ok... I'm going to take it upon myself to findout as much as I can about who our past/existing vendors are... what previous order history with them has ever been, and generally become clueful about this stuff
02:38:03 <inode0> we have a list of vendors on the wiki
02:38:22 <inode0> not complete but it does include quite a few of them
02:38:43 <masta> ok that is a good starting point, I'll audit the list... make sure they are all in the magic RH database of approved vendors or whatever
02:39:06 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors
02:39:33 <inode0> Screen Printed Products <--- priority
02:39:49 <inode0> LUSTRE-CAL <-- priority
02:40:49 <inode0> those are the only two on that page that really need to move into the PO ready category
02:41:19 <award3535> are those where we get case badges and t shirts?
02:41:29 <inode0> yes
02:42:02 <masta> I with stabby was here
02:42:07 <masta> s/with/wish/
02:43:01 <masta> (regarding ink pens)
02:43:35 <inode0> he told me he has 10K of them so just send him email asking him to ship you whatever you need (for event use or regional shippers only)
02:44:03 <inode0> oh sorry, not pens
02:44:09 <masta> stickers
02:44:19 <masta> I'm guessing the voice stickers
02:44:22 <inode0> we do need to order pens and I talked to him about those too
02:44:42 <masta> ok, so I'll see about t-shirts
02:45:09 <inode0> demonjester has always been happy to take care of the shirts if we tell him what we want
02:45:15 <masta> does anybody already have the ball rolling with lustre-cal?
02:45:28 * masta notes demojester
02:45:40 <inode0> it is waiting on Ruth I believe to make them POable
02:47:10 <masta> unfortunate
02:47:52 <masta> ok... so I'm going to action myself to findout more about the vendors, the PO process, the history of all this... etc... and try to get some progress with t-shirts.
02:47:59 <inode0> in about 4 weeks our budget is up - we just can't keep putting this off and we can't wait for Red Hat bookkeeping stuff to happen
02:48:14 <inode0> someone should order $900 of case badges to get us by
02:48:17 <masta> #action masta to engage on the t-shirts
02:48:35 <kk4ewt> nb ordered them last time
02:48:43 <inode0> yes, he did
02:48:53 <inode0> and he has been talking about doing it again
02:49:53 <masta> I agree that we need to take action, urgently
02:51:13 <award3535> since it is less than 1 k how do we order them
02:51:22 <masta> so I'm going to be poking people to get things moving... and hopefully making order of t-shirts or whatever... but that is a boundary I've not crossed yet.
02:52:23 <masta> not much we can do during this meeting, but I'll take some initiative... hopefully I do not disappoint.
02:52:48 <masta> #topic === open floor ===
02:53:20 <award3535> I will ask again since I do not know that process how do we order things under 1k
02:54:20 <award3535> ....
02:54:42 <inode0> Didn't I just explain that earlier this meeting?
02:54:57 <masta> I think it involves placing an order and then Ruth calls to pay
02:55:17 <inode0> Or I can call to pay, or Robyn can, or anyone with a CC can.
02:55:45 <award3535> that was what I needed to know I can order the case badges and get things rolling
02:55:48 <inode0> There are a couple of catches which I can go into if it involved new swag items.
02:56:15 <award3535> for those who know, I get things done
02:56:41 <inode0> For the existing swag we are just re-ordering things are easier - but you need to know what exactly we order and what logo/design/artwork needs to be provided to the vendor.
02:56:56 <wrnash1> is there a site or how-to order stuff under 1k.  and is there a list of all the poeple with cc
02:57:43 <award3535> I believe the case badges are a reorder and I can get that done quickly
02:58:01 <inode0> First get the proposed swag lined up, show it to us in a FAmNA meeting for approval. Get art from the design team if necessary. Then most likely I'll pay for it.
02:58:32 <masta> inode0: that is why I was interested in the order history and vendor list... got the vendor list, but order history and the details is the missing piece for me... hope to learn as much as possible in the next few days
02:58:36 <inode0> If I can't then we need to ask others to help.
02:59:01 <inode0> masta: there is supposed to be a database of all that including previously used art
02:59:18 <masta> lost tribal knowledge
02:59:23 <inode0> I haven't heard much about it for a long time but spot and mizmo were moving it along
02:59:45 <kk4ewt> masta for the case badges talk to nb, ballons i can help, vbanners i will tell you later
02:59:59 <kk4ewt> balloons
03:00:07 <masta> thanks kk4ewt
03:00:30 <inode0> and for t-shirts we just need to pick the design, if we use an old design we are ok, and ask demonjester to order them (that would be easiest)
03:01:13 <masta> ok folks, I've got to go... my tv show is starting... as bad as that sounds
03:01:19 <award3535> so who is going to order the case badges
03:01:22 <inode0> masta: if we can find a couple of hours we can organize some new stuff
03:01:25 <masta> any objection to ending the meeting?
03:01:43 <masta> inode0: I have many hours to give this the next few days
03:01:45 <kk4ewt> award3535:  put a fire under nb
03:01:51 <inode0> nb should be able to take care of the case badges
03:01:54 <award3535> person of interest
03:01:59 <masta> inode0: I'm serious about getting this going.
03:02:09 <masta> award3535: bingo
03:02:14 <award3535> ok, I will contact nb
03:02:20 <award3535> yes I too am watching it
03:03:14 <masta> ok folks, thanks for attending
03:03:16 <inode0> masta: first week of the semester isn't my most free week but I can hopefully help some evening
03:03:27 <masta> inode0: I'm flexible
03:03:45 <inode0> or this weekend for sure
03:03:54 <masta> inode0: I'll ping you in about an hour if you're free, otherwise in the morning or whenever tomorrow.
03:04:08 <masta> #endmeeting